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post Apr 1 2016, 12:16 PM
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There's been some massive info dumps from people at adepticon who are looking at the book. Stuff for Haqqbros.

Azra'il lose linkability.

Fauerbachs +3 band is now 16-32, and gains a B1 EXP shot. Azra'il with Fauerbach is looking more badass.

Hafzas are capped at 2 models per non-Hafza link, so no more 2 Jannisarys + 3 Hafza. Hafza gain a HRL profile. They also cannot join Mercenary links, so no more cheap Hafza filling out Kaplan or Druze links. However, 1 Hafza can now join a Haris link.

Druze are AVA 5. Gain killer hacking device profile (we knew this). LGL prfile SWC drop. Boarding Shotgun profile. All models have Fireteam Duo. Available in vanilla. Apparently Duo is available there too.

Sekban lose 1 CC and gain 1 BS. Gain Duo.

Ghazi Muttuwi'ah gain smoke grenades. No points increase.

All Muyibs have the Number 2 rule.

Asawira drop 7pts on all profiles. lose 1 WIP, gain +6 BTS, Assault, Kinematica L2 and Duo. Spitfire profile has Haris. 2 Muyibs can join an Asawira Haris link.

Barid gets Hacking Device, Assault Hacking Device and Killer Hacking Device profiles.

Hassassins seem to have made out like bandits. So much awesome.
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post Apr 1 2016, 12:27 PM
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I wanna see if anyone else gets access to Druze... the promo miniature only being available to one faction seems so dumb.


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post Apr 1 2016, 12:38 PM
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FFS - buys QK then before I can play first game they get changed so I can't use the models I bought without buying more.

oh well

(I should add its no biggie! I'm sure I can sort something out....but the salt...I taste it!)

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post Apr 1 2016, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(Micky @ Apr 1 2016, 01:27 PM) *
I wanna see if anyone else gets access to Druze... the promo miniature only being available to one faction seems so dumb.


The druze units are mercs outside of QK (they're sanctioned mercs in QK).
OUTSIDE of ITS, anyone can use mercs. There's a line missing from the english rules referring to that. Palanka (rules guy) provided that text on the forums. To whit:

We have detected that the following text is missing on the page 23 of the english edition of N3, under Mercenary Troops:

Players can only add Mercenary Troops to their Army List by mutual accord, or if such troops are available for their faction, or their Sectorial Army (see Infinity. Human Sphere).




If you are locked into an ITS-or-nothing mindset, then ONLY QK get them, period - but ITS isn't the only way to play (or necessarily the best way).


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post Apr 1 2016, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(chromedog @ Apr 1 2016, 01:27 PM) *


If you are locked into an ITS-or-nothing mindset, then ONLY QK get them, period - but ITS isn't the only way to play (or necessarily the best way).



You and I sadly appear to be in the minority here.


Also, yeah, just want to see if their availability changes in HS3.

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post Apr 1 2016, 04:36 PM
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I was playing for a few years before ITS became a thing.
I still play despite it being a thing.

I just don't do tourneys. Club and social games are it for me.


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post Apr 1 2016, 05:34 PM
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I rarely play ITS missions but the Infinity Army builders tend to make ITS compliant lists the norm (even if using 20x20 or yams).

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post Apr 1 2016, 06:02 PM
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Question from the n00b: ITS is Corvus Belli sponsored yeah?

I ask as, from experience in other games (including That Other Space Fantasy Game We Shall Not Name), a company will generally push their system in favour of fan written ones. And from what I can see online, YAMS and 20x20 are fan works. GOOD fan works, but fan works.

Just a thought bubble. Either way I tend to get a well rounded list from the Army Builder. I can't use it worth a damn but dangit it's got a bit of everything.


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post Apr 1 2016, 06:33 PM
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Yes ITS is CBs tournament system. To be fair YAMS came first, and ITS took a lot from it, including classified objectives and HVTs.
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post Apr 1 2016, 06:43 PM
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That said the ITS compliancy tick in ARMY 5 and now ARMY 6 (when that P.O.S is updated and working correctly) is effectively just a standard compliancy tick its checking your not cheating effectively by omitting or circulating the enforced limitations in AVA, must have LT, no more than 10 order generating models in a combat group etc etc etc.

Most of the time if it was just Pen and Paper a lot of players would be cheating unintentionally but cheating none the less but including AD troops, Hidden Deployment and so fourth in combat groups where they legally cannot fit and thats just 1 example.

AS to the whole ITS or not to ITS debate its becoming a much less contention thing really as ITS missions are diversified what we were playing in 2015 is a ways different to what we will be playing in 2016 and most are nothing like 2013 or 2014 where forces like Ariadna ruled the day with Cheap Infiltrating Specialists taking objectives and them never being able to be taken back by the opposing player.

Not that ITS is the only way to play or even IMHO the best way but its just the most comment really for the META as a whole.


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post Apr 1 2016, 08:11 PM
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ITS 2016 is great, having a good time mixing it with some extra bits like Flamestrike etc. 20-20 etc is interesting but feels way more 'meh' when everyone can cap objectives.

Adepticon rumours are heavy but no idea on what is and isn't yet. Some of it seems a bit whack... But..no context means no idea how or why it's gone that way or this way etc.


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post Apr 2 2016, 12:05 AM
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Its CB ... as usual nothing will make total sense some things will be business, some things will be fanboi appeasement, some things with be game design/competative movement and then there will be some totally inane ###### that only makes sense to them because its lost in translation.

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post Apr 2 2016, 10:12 PM
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Oh man that new I.s.s. Hot damn.
https://youtu.be/K7n_me_RDGg


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post Apr 4 2016, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(trapthem @ Apr 2 2016, 10:12 PM) *

Oh man that new I.s.s. Hot damn.
https://youtu.be/K7n_me_RDGg


See case in point the yu Jing starter looks like ###### just utter ###### the newer ISS starter is fine and what do they resculpt the ISS ..... Classic CB randomness.


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post Apr 5 2016, 06:36 AM
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Would for sure be a marketing decision to fit in with the newer versions of thunder thighs and robot thunder cat warrior

That said sold my jsa and vanilla and going straight I.s.s. As a force. Main reason being I want to male like five armies and going vanilla is a big sink hole of doom haha (already done it with nomads and CA tongue.gif)


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I'm sticking to JSA as my only YJ.

Ninjas, ALL of the ninjas. Samurai, and more samurai and no need of secret service goons, political prisoner suicide squads, or more orange than I ever want to see on a table.


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I was ISS before it was cool. tongue.gif


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post Apr 7 2016, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(VisOne @ Apr 6 2016, 11:04 PM) *

I was ISS before it was cool. tongue.gif


I bought ISS before it was cool, but was too lazy to do anything with it until last week.


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post Apr 8 2016, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(VisOne @ Apr 6 2016, 11:34 PM) *

I was ISS before it was cool. tongue.gif


I wanted to avoid aleph rems but I caved cos I couldn't be arsed with motorbikes and too many choices wink.gif


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