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Posted by: Behemoth Oct 11 2013, 12:17 PM

DAUTHUS IX 2014


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Picture is of actual first place trophy model.

2000pt 40K Tournament
1 force Organisation Chart Only
Saturday 22nd and Sunday 23rd February

Group North Members $40
Non Members $50
Under 18 years $30
$10 discount if paid by 31/01/2014

Trophies will go to 1st, 2nd, 3rd and last.

Sausage Sizzle Provided Both Days.

Full details can be found at www.groupnorth.biz on the tournaments page or email groupnorth@adam.com.au or Simon on 0400 541 970

Players Pack can be found http://www.groupnorth.biz/playerspack/Dauthus%202014%20Players%20Pack.pdf.


Players

01) Ben Vickers (defult06) - Paid - List received
02) Alexander Krohn (gutsmaka) - Paid - List received
03) Andreas Nicolay (4indi) - Paid - List received
04) Aidan Baker - Paid - List received
05) Andy Penn (Capt Damage) - Paid - List received
06) Chris Appleby (Zero) - Paid - List received
07) Chris Berkin (scout max) - Paid - List received
08) Adam Napier (cool_conoly) - Paid - List received
09) Matt Cross (Deadmuppet) - Paid - List received
10) Matt Taverna (SprayAnPay) - Paid - List received
11) Nick Hardy (Cypher) - Paid - List received
12) Stuart Johnson (Dismembered) - Paid - List received
13) Brian Craig (Pion) - Paid - List received
14) Charles Winsor (Charlie W) - Paid - List received
15) William Ivens (Dwax) - Paid - List Received
16) Steve Gilman - Paid - List received
17) Tim Skrenya - Paid - List received
18) Zac Butler (Mystblade) - Paying on the day - List received
19) Travos Boyce - paying on the day - List received
20) Jarryd (Moses) Wucherpfennig - List received
21) Aaron Blackley (AJ-Crisis) - Paying on the day - List received
22) Ken Reckless - Paying on the day - List received
23) Matt Masters - Paying on the day - List received
24) Michael Knight (dominus nox) - List received
25) Alexander Dagger - Paying on the day - List received
26) Luke Brown (Harvey Birdman) - Paid - List received
27) Michael Brittain - Paying on the day - List received
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Grudges

1) Jarryd (Moses) Wucherpfennig vs Michael Brittain
2) Zac Butler vs Alexander Dagger
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Posted by: ru486baby Oct 11 2013, 12:33 PM

In.

Posted by: scout max Oct 11 2013, 12:42 PM

I'm in to .thanks lads. Is that the distent row of bike motor I here smile.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: cool_conoly Oct 11 2013, 12:44 PM

My last SA event! IN!

Posted by: Behemoth Oct 11 2013, 01:01 PM

Se separate thread in regards to Dauthus 2015!

Posted by: neil Oct 11 2013, 01:17 PM

I'm in

Posted by: 4ndi Oct 11 2013, 01:53 PM

Hm I have to be in Germany on the 25.2, hm that's a close one... but I try to make it work.. I m in biggrin.gif!

Posted by: barit Oct 11 2013, 02:24 PM

I will come along with some dice and a pair of short shorts.

Posted by: neil Oct 11 2013, 02:26 PM

I'll play Daemons so my trophy matches my army.

Posted by: Charlie_W Oct 11 2013, 04:35 PM

Put my name down. I'll have to see what the new job is like before I can commit to flying back for this.

Posted by: death jester Oct 11 2013, 04:47 PM

yep

Posted by: Monkey Oct 11 2013, 04:56 PM

No IA? I'll never get to use my Contemptor. sad.gif

Posted by: DEBO Oct 11 2013, 05:55 PM

Buddha had 2 at Redemption as regular Dreads I'm pretty sure.

Posted by: Dismembered Oct 11 2013, 06:06 PM

I'm in. No repeat of this year...

Posted by: pion Oct 11 2013, 06:29 PM

yes

Posted by: AJ-CRISIS Oct 11 2013, 06:47 PM

I, Aaron Blackley, shall be there good people smile.gif

Posted by: Behemoth Oct 11 2013, 06:49 PM

QUOTE(Dismembered @ Oct 11 2013, 07:06 PM) *

I'm in. No repeat of this year...


Get your list in early - it's worth 5 points.

Posted by: ru486baby Oct 11 2013, 07:01 PM

QUOTE(AJ-CRISIS @ Oct 11 2013, 06:17 PM) *

I, Aaron Blackley, shall be there good people smile.gif

######INGGRUDGEMOTHER######ER

Posted by: Monkey Oct 11 2013, 09:15 PM

QUOTE(DEBO @ Oct 11 2013, 05:25 PM) *

Buddha had 2 at Redemption as regular Dreads I'm pretty sure.


He did, but I want to use the rules that go with it!

Posted by: death jester Oct 12 2013, 08:10 AM

Here here let the monkey have his banana it's no scarier than a riptide live a little Simon


I'm going to grudge josh he has no choice in the matter

Posted by: Origin Oct 12 2013, 08:45 AM

I'm in.

Posted by: Behemoth Oct 12 2013, 11:04 AM

QUOTE(death jester @ Oct 12 2013, 09:10 AM) *

Here here let the monkey have his banana it's no scarier than a riptide live a little Simon
I'm going to grudge josh he has no choice in the matter


Which Josh? P or L.

Posted by: Buddha Oct 12 2013, 12:29 PM

I am in smile.gif 2000 points eh?


Quick Q; all Fortifications allowed? New ones? Fortress?

Posted by: Behemoth Oct 12 2013, 05:13 PM

QUOTE(Buddha @ Oct 12 2013, 01:29 PM) *

Quick Q; all Fortifications allowed? New ones? Fortress?


Yes - though I don't know the points costs of the new ones.

Posted by: death jester Oct 12 2013, 07:58 PM

Josh l

Posted by: deadmuppet Oct 22 2013, 11:35 AM

might as well slap my name down. Mat,Cross

Posted by: ru486baby Dec 4 2013, 09:09 AM

Are the new data slabs or faxes thingy allowed???

Posted by: defult06 Dec 4 2013, 11:40 AM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Dec 4 2013, 09:39 AM) *

Are the new data slabs or faxes thingy allowed???


Trying for inquisitor taudar marines? Or the khorne psycher?

Posted by: barit Dec 4 2013, 12:54 PM

QUOTE(defult06 @ Dec 4 2013, 11:10 AM) *

Trying for inquisitor taudar marines? Or the khorne psycher?


Tau Support Fire Cadre probably, 5 riptides is just nasty.

Or Belakor is pretty kick ass...

Posted by: defult06 Dec 4 2013, 01:38 PM

QUOTE(barit @ Dec 4 2013, 01:24 PM) *

Tau Support Fire Cadre probably, 5 riptides is just nasty.

Or Belakor is pretty kick ass...


Can do 5 riptides with farsight/tau.

Can do 6 with tau/tau/tau

Posted by: deadmuppet Dec 4 2013, 01:49 PM

how many riptides does it take to have no friends?

Posted by: defult06 Dec 4 2013, 02:08 PM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Dec 4 2013, 02:19 PM) *

how many riptides does it take to have no friends?


2 really pretty ones biggrin.gif

Posted by: ru486baby Dec 4 2013, 05:52 PM

You lot are hopeless

Farsight/S.M
Tau & inquis.

Posted by: defult06 Dec 4 2013, 06:03 PM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Dec 4 2013, 06:22 PM) *

You lot are hopeless

Farsight/S.M
Tau & inquis.


I was close I said taudar Marines and inquisitor

Just realised you can now do trip wraithknights and triptides in the same list

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 4 2013, 08:44 PM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Dec 4 2013, 10:09 AM) *

Are the new data slabs or faxes thingy allowed???


No.

Reason - cause!

Seriously considering making it hard copy codex's only (printing out an e version doesn't count).

Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 4 2013, 08:47 PM

Restrictions are a deterrent to attendance.

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 4 2013, 08:51 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Dec 4 2013, 09:47 PM) *

Restrictions are a deterrent to attendance.


Insane combo's are a deterrent to others.

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 4 2013, 10:01 PM

Ok, the longer version of "no - cause".

While the new updates may be great for the variety aspect of the game in an individual game sense I think it is a deterrent in a tournament perspective.

As a TO, the constant changes are coming too fast and for someone like me (old fart), I do not have access to all the e only stuff so I cannot properly check lists. I am therefore not up to date on rules and interpretations so it's beginning to be too much effort to organise a tourney. I have a lot of other things I could be doing.

Attendance numbers are down at tourneys and I think the best way to get them back up it to keep it simple. Unfortunately, GW is doing everything it can to mess with this. The only people the new updates are going to benefit are the experienced tournament players anyway. I don't want to alienate that core group of players but if every new player at a tourney gets totally stomped on then they are less likely to attend another tourney. This is a bad outcome in the longer term.

A bit part of this is 6th ed itself as it's more rock/paper/scissors and it is also my personal 'old school 40k' bias. There seems to be less and less pride in an individual army and these new updates simple make that more pronounced. This is not a good thing in my opinion.

14 players so far for Dauthus next year. I think the numbers show that interest is down and blindly following every update GW decides is a good money spinner for them does also translate into a good idea for tournaments.


Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 4 2013, 10:14 PM

Sorry to be brutally honest, but the players winning games and tournaments are not winning because of supplements or double FOC or any other new variation of the traditional FOC; they are winning because they are playing better.

Restrictions are not going to stop the better players from winning. Restrictions just stop all players from building lists to suit their own tastes within the constraints of the official rules of the game.

There are plenty of ways to roflstomp with a single Detachment from a single standard Codex. Restricting supplements will not eliminate "insane combos".

Posted by: Origin Dec 5 2013, 09:06 AM

Agreed. Charles is on the money.

As much as a i really hate the current insanity any restrictions can still be gamed.

Perhaps the awards and prizes need to be adjusted to recruit the player and play style that you prefer Simon.

Posted by: deadmuppet Dec 5 2013, 09:29 AM



Or u can split a tournment up.

One side can be people who play to enjoy the game have good games roll some dice and talk ####. The other side with all the people who just want to win at all costs. Just because gw brings out rules that change the game it doesnt mean u have to play/abuse combos. If u want to do that then play a friendly game with ur mate. Do u feel u need to do that to win just because someone else is going to? If thats the case then its the core group with the problem not the rules. Just because something is non comp it doesnt mean u have u be a dick? Or does it? With 6th edd came alot of non comp and tournments have droped in half with numbers.... I wonder why.

Posted by: cool_conoly Dec 5 2013, 12:53 PM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Dec 5 2013, 09:59 AM) *

Or u can split a tournment up.

One side can be people who play to enjoy the game have good games roll some dice and talk ####. The other side with all the people who just want to win at all costs. Just because gw brings out rules that change the game it doesnt mean u have to play/abuse combos. If u want to do that then play a friendly game with ur mate. Do u feel u need to do that to win just because someone else is going to? If thats the case then its the core group with the problem not the rules. Just because something is non comp it doesnt mean u have u be a dick? Or does it? With 6th edd came alot of non comp and tournments have droped in half with numbers.... I wonder why.



No 5th ed had just as many no comp events. Its 6th overall thats reduced numbers.

im going to back Simon here, there is too much being regurgitated out atm in the form of digital only and it will create issues down the track.

Restrictions are not a good thing, on that I agree. But simon isnt saying you cant take tau allies. What hes sayibg is you have to follow the 40k rulebook to get those allies, not a digital only download that says you can field tau without having to field an allied detachment.

In the end your normal Ks player isnt going to care whether he can field the tau firebase, and TBH *most* competitive gamers that ive spoken too about these dataslates feel that just like FW they are things that a TO can and should be able to make a decision on whether to allow

Posted by: Monkey Dec 5 2013, 12:56 PM

5th had a better environment though, Adam.

Posted by: 4ndi Dec 5 2013, 01:25 PM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Dec 5 2013, 08:59 AM) *

Or u can split a tournment up.

One side can be people who play to enjoy the game have good games roll some dice and talk ####. The other side with all the people who just want to win at all costs. Just because gw brings out rules that change the game it doesnt mean u have to play/abuse combos. If u want to do that then play a friendly game with ur mate. Do u feel u need to do that to win just because someone else is going to? If thats the case then its the core group with the problem not the rules. Just because something is non comp it doesnt mean u have u be a dick? Or does it? With 6th edd came alot of non comp and tournments have droped in half with numbers.... I wonder why.


Whats the average attendance numbers for a wh40k tournament in SA? 15-20? I think that wouldn't work so well.
Than again who decides what is fun...

I am on Simon's site on this one, normal alias/codex as per rulebook, which excludes small stuff like dataslides, escalation etc.

I would go further and think about a tournament with no alias, no spaming of non Infantry models allowed, no single models above 150pts allowed, etc.
I think that help older Codex a lot and might help to get more Ppl to a tournament.

Posted by: deadmuppet Dec 5 2013, 01:38 PM

QUOTE(4ndi @ Dec 5 2013, 01:25 PM) *

Whats the average attendance numbers for a wh40k tournament in SA? 15-20? I think that wouldn't work so well.


that was more of a statement over a recommendation.

and who decides what is fun...

umm you do.

their are things in the rules that dont need to be used in a tournament. I hate using mysterious objectives for eg. in most player backs u don't see them being used. because their stupid.

on a happy note im keen to play a 2k game as i have never played one before.

Posted by: 4ndi Dec 5 2013, 04:13 PM

Come to my place if u wanna lay a 2k earlier tongue.gif

Posted by: deadmuppet Dec 5 2013, 04:45 PM

nah that's alright i would prefer a challange tongue.gif

i prob can thursday night if ur keen?

Posted by: Paddlepop Lion Dec 5 2013, 08:09 PM

Im interested.

Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 5 2013, 08:35 PM

I think that resistance to digital content will ultimately prove futile, and foolish in retrospect. It's 2013 guys, the fact that paper publication is still considered the default medium in this hobby is amazeballs tongue.gif

I do recognise the difficulty for a TO to check lists these days, but I think the answer to that issue is peer review not restrictions. Everyone submits lists, TO publishes them all, players collectively scrutinise. Any list errors will be found and flagged pretty quickly I think...

As for people playing to win versus playing for lolz (and I don't think the two are actually mutually exclusive) this is an attitude thing not a rules thing. History should have taught us by now that Comp, restrictions, and soft scoring does not reduce competitive drive or the occasional bad behaviour. Different players play for different reasons, and players need to accept that diversity if they want to play in an environment where they do not choose their opponent (i.e. a tournament).

Posted by: barit Dec 6 2013, 08:32 PM

So after having a gander at the escalation book, really anyone dumping that many points into a single unit is really taking a gamble. I dont see them being an issue at any points range.

There is also a new warlord chart that opponents can roll on when they are facing an apoc sized creature/walker/vehicle that is pretty nifty. Also every damage point you do to a super heavy counts as a VP in all game types.

Simon, your event mate so set restrictions as you like - there is always those who will be on the latest power build but its a tournament, dice can roll badly and your units count for much less than you planned for so at the end of the day it really doesnt matter all that much.

I would love to see the return of more people, was it 2 years ago that there was 50 or so at Dauthus? Would be great to see that again.

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 7 2013, 11:22 AM

Updated players pack to say only hard copy codices and supplements allowed.

I understand some will not like and others who will. I can't please everyone so ultimately I have to go with what I think will work best. 40k is just turning into a silly version of apoc so I would prefer to keep things as simple as possible.

46 is the best Dauthus has done and one day I would really like it to hit the fifty mark but I think that is a longs way off now.

Anyway, I have just finished painting a new table (my personal home table not the clubs) and just have a bit more work on the scenery. Then I have a city/ruins one to paint.

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Posted by: CAPT DAMAGE Dec 7 2013, 11:59 AM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Dec 7 2013, 11:52 AM) *




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Nice smile.gif


I am a 50/50 chance to be there too.

Posted by: zero Dec 7 2013, 12:15 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Dec 4 2013, 07:47 PM) *

Restrictions are a deterrent to attendance.


Pft, who would not come to Dauthus because they cant take the latest powerbuild?
Name one person Charles, and then, name one person who cares if this person does not turn up!

The real question here is; will it have a liquor licence?
Restrictions on beer are a deterrent to attendance.
I mean, Simon tried to ban beer at the last GN event, but I still turned up.

Simon can run the event how he wishes.
I will be there.
Probably with beer again.

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 7 2013, 12:57 PM

There will be a liquor license. armata_PDT_37.gif

Posted by: deadmuppet Dec 7 2013, 02:30 PM

QUOTE(zero @ Dec 7 2013, 12:15 PM) *

Pft, who would not come to Dauthus because they cant take the latest powerbuild?
Name one person Charles, and then, name one person who cares if this person does not turn up!


armata_PDT_37.gif

Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 7 2013, 02:43 PM

It's not about power builds at all. You can build very powerful lists from the basic codexes alone. So these restrictions do nothing for "balance". They just reduce diversity.

Last Dauthus there was some one who left the tournament due to a list restriction, so it does happen.

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 7 2013, 03:03 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Dec 7 2013, 03:43 PM) *

Last Dauthus there was some one who left the tournament due to a list restriction, so it does happen.


Without naming names.

It was no comp with 2 FoC and allowed Forgeworld. One person brought a list that didn't meet these broad allowances and didn't give me their list until on the day. So I said no to them being able to play (they were offered to do a quick rewrite but unfortunately did not have the extra models required. I consulted with you on this Charles so you know that example doesn't quite fits what we are debating now.

I had a lot more feedback that people didn't play because it allowed Forgeworld and people also said they didn't like 2 FoC. If many people didn't like those 2 things then it would follow they are not going to like all the new things.

It's not about power lists because you are correct that even with the restrictions a power list can still be made. What it is about is making 40k a bit more about what I think 40k should be and toning down the craziness just a little because the diversity in a list is getting out of control.

Space Marines are supposed to kill all xenos and now they can have what is it 3, 4 or 5 different types of armies in a list. That's just GW accountants over ruling the game designers.

Posted by: cool_conoly Dec 7 2013, 03:43 PM

Into more important things! I think its really important the balance of terrain is correct. I feel since 6th ed has come in i think our biggest issue has been a lack of LoS blocking terrain. I think this is something that if done correctly can go along way to bridging the gap between shooting and assualt armies.


Posted by: CAPT DAMAGE Dec 7 2013, 04:05 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Dec 7 2013, 01:27 PM) *

There will be a liquor license. armata_PDT_37.gif


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Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 7 2013, 05:30 PM

Yeah Simon I know there was more to that one story which is why I didn't go into detail, but it is an illustration that restrictions can deter attendance. I realise that other things like IA can also deter attendance, so ultimately it remains a case of "you can't please everyone". You need to make the call on how you run your event, no argument there, but I don't think restrictions will improve numbers or improve balance, which were your aims.

Remember that with"hard copy books" only and no double FOC you can still run five Riptides or four Helldrakes...

Posted by: ru486baby Dec 7 2013, 05:46 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Dec 7 2013, 05:00 PM) *

Remember that with"hard copy books" only and no double FOC you can still run five Riptides or four Helldrakes...


Lets be honest neither of those are amazing lists.
Happy with how ever you rule it simon so pumped as allways
trying to drag down a few vics for numbers.

Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 7 2013, 06:35 PM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Dec 7 2013, 05:16 PM) *

Lets be honest neither of those are amazing lists.
Happy with how ever you rule it simon so pumped as allways
trying to drag down a few vics for numbers.


Exactly, which is why I don't think restrictions achieve anything. You can already build extreme lists, but extreme does not always mean overpowered.

Posted by: deadmuppet Dec 8 2013, 01:56 PM

maby watch this charles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53AGY_AE4ho

u want this?

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 8 2013, 02:26 PM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Dec 8 2013, 02:56 PM) *

maby watch this charles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53AGY_AE4ho

u want this?


Well, I have completely changed my opinion. 40k couldn't be more balanced.

NOT!

Posted by: deadmuppet Dec 8 2013, 02:40 PM

lets all take the eldar titan. looks heaps of fun....

Posted by: defult06 Dec 8 2013, 02:53 PM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Dec 8 2013, 02:26 PM) *

maby watch this charles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53AGY_AE4ho

u want this?



Appears legit and completely balanced although i do think it was more to do with the balance issues of super heavys.....



So if this is going to be allowed looks like my wraithknights need a big brother

Posted by: Origin Dec 8 2013, 03:01 PM

Flee! Flee the city! Run for your lives!

Posted by: cool_conoly Dec 8 2013, 03:14 PM

Lol! No TO in their right mind will allow that

Posted by: deadmuppet Dec 8 2013, 03:19 PM

hasnt the last few pages been people saying u should not restrict the game??? or did they not realize that this is what they were asking for?

Posted by: cool_conoly Dec 8 2013, 03:35 PM

Ive been all for it! All along!

Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 8 2013, 04:13 PM

Oh noes teh sky iz falling. Again.

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 8 2013, 04:44 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Dec 8 2013, 05:13 PM) *

Oh noes teh sky iz falling. Again.

I am finding the air a little thinner actually.

Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 8 2013, 05:46 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Dec 8 2013, 04:14 PM) *

I am finding the air a little thinner actually.


Wizards did it.

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 8 2013, 05:50 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Dec 8 2013, 06:46 PM) *

Wizards did it.


Wizards - the missing element in 40k. Quick someone write to GW and tell them to add rules where we can incorporate WHFB codex's.

Posted by: defult06 Dec 8 2013, 05:53 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Dec 8 2013, 06:20 PM) *

Wizards - the missing element in 40k. Quick someone write to GW and tell them to add rules where we can incorporate WHFB codex's.


Shhhh dont you remember when someone suggested deep striking land raiders

Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 8 2013, 06:02 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Dec 8 2013, 05:20 PM) *

Wizards - the missing element in 40k. Quick someone write to GW and tell them to add rules where we can incorporate WHFB codex's.


I'm pretty sure tax-free Divination-bot Inquisitors for 40 pts are Wizards...

I can haz Lizardmanz?

Posted by: Buddha Dec 8 2013, 07:28 PM

I think Charles is finally broken.

Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 8 2013, 09:02 PM

Masters has officially broken my brain.

Posted by: gutsmaka Dec 8 2013, 11:15 PM

which of these will these will be allowed? suplements (fargsight, iyaden ect) expansions (escalation) forgworld.

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 8 2013, 11:19 PM

QUOTE(gutsmaka @ Dec 9 2013, 12:15 AM) *

which of these will these will be allowed? suplements (fargsight, iyaden ect) expansions (escalation) forgworld.


None.

Posted by: ru486baby Dec 8 2013, 11:56 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Dec 8 2013, 10:49 PM) *

None.

No Codex supplements?
=(

Posted by: 4ndi Dec 9 2013, 05:44 AM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Dec 8 2013, 11:26 PM) *

No Codex supplements?
=(


I think if u own the Hardcover, u can use it.


Posted by: Charlie_W Dec 9 2013, 06:48 AM

QUOTE(4ndi @ Dec 9 2013, 05:14 AM) *

I think if u own the Hardcover, u can use it.


Time to print out some ebooks and visit a bookbinder...

Posted by: 4ndi Dec 9 2013, 09:17 AM

My Farsight enclave Hardcover will arrive soon from the UK biggrin.gif.
The Fluff (what I read far) is actually very good biggrin.gif.

Posted by: Buddha Dec 9 2013, 09:30 AM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Dec 9 2013, 12:19 AM) *

None.


Thats a bit disappointing Simon.

I think its a backwards step. You can get them all mostly in Hardcover from GW.

its not like Forgeworld, its just now part of the game.

Personally if you are really concerned about Baneblades and Titans just say no Lord of War units.

Posted by: Drazah Dec 9 2013, 09:31 AM

If this gets a big enough turnout ill cone over from Vic... we have an event on that weekend normally so I don't really want to come over to play with 20 players... especially if one of them is Napier... tongue.gif

Posted by: cool_conoly Dec 9 2013, 09:44 AM

I spoke with simon this morning and confirmed that some of the supplements have gardcovers so I think we will hear from him soon enough on the matter

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 9 2013, 08:29 PM

Ok, by none I mean no e book only stuff. There must be a physical book available and don't start with me the 'this is the 21st century stuff yadda yadda yadda'. I was born in the seventies so lets keep everything there were life belongs!

In the interests of clarification I have drawn up the below list.

Things 100% banned at Dauthus.

Forge World
Mullet hair cuts
Leather Chaps
Data slates
Chickens (beady eyed bastards are out to get us all)
One Direction
Super Heavy's


Posted by: deadmuppet Dec 9 2013, 09:00 PM

So I can still come in like a wreaking ball?

Posted by: Monkey Dec 9 2013, 09:29 PM

Put me down as a maybe Simon. This might be my last tournament for a while.

Posted by: Drazah Dec 9 2013, 10:10 PM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Dec 9 2013, 10:00 PM) *

So I can still come in like a wreaking ball?


If you get naked and hump a metal chain go for your life.

Posted by: gutsmaka Dec 10 2013, 12:11 PM

is this a more relaxed or competitive tournament?

Posted by: barit Dec 10 2013, 02:08 PM

It is the premier tournament for the local residents of Adelaide and certain inter-state-ers.

Competitive lists are played but there are always some that pick theme and pretty painting over brutality.

Posted by: gutsmaka Dec 10 2013, 02:52 PM

thanks!

Posted by: Mystblade Dec 11 2013, 06:36 PM

Put Me down (Zac Butler) Hopefully i'll actually have a painted list this year.. anyway, i was originally bummed by the no forge world but realized i didnt really care that much, but i am happy with the no data slate crap, as like you said they are coming out too fast to really get any idea about anyway. I miss when this game used to be a little simpler and armies had a them vs. us feel to it :/.. maybe im just nostalgic?

Posted by: DarkMagister Dec 12 2013, 04:55 PM

Put me down - Matt Roberts

Posted by: dominus nox Dec 18 2013, 09:08 AM

I'm in.

Posted by: scout max Dec 21 2013, 09:34 PM

this is Verdigris using Scout Max's Log in. I think it unfair to SoB players to not let them come. they have no "tree book" codex just a couple of White Dwarf articles. I have yet top see anyone call a SoB army an overpowered killer army. Not a could way to encourage diversity in a tournament by not allowing the Sisters to come. it seems Mysogynistic

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 21 2013, 10:13 PM

QUOTE(scout max @ Dec 21 2013, 10:34 PM) *

this is Verdigris using Scout Max's Log in. I think it unfair to SoB players to not let them come. they have no "tree book" codex just a couple of White Dwarf articles. I have yet top see anyone call a SoB army an overpowered killer army. Not a could way to encourage diversity in a tournament by not allowing the Sisters to come. it seems Mysogynistic


I have been drinking, having a good time with friends over dinner and then I read the above excrement. I hope you are taking the piss Verdigris otherwise your just making me mad (name calling deleted as some common sense kicks in).

Mysogynistic - seriously?

I have said no to ebook only codex's/rules. My tourney, my rules - go jump if you don't like it.

Posted by: Origin Dec 22 2013, 08:33 AM

QUOTE(scout max @ Dec 21 2013, 09:04 PM) *

it seems Mysogynistic


Is mysogynistic capitalised because you pasted the word from google? It is hard to have a coherent agruement when your spelling, grammer and sentence structure are all so poor.

Perhaps instead of raging about Simon's obvious hatred of women due to his stance on eBook codices you could volunteer with victims of forced female circumscision in Africa rather than play with sexually objectified figurines of nuns with guns...?

Or Verdigris, in the coloquial, piss off.

Posted by: gutsmaka Dec 22 2013, 06:25 PM

alright, I have the money and the army! where and how do I pay! haven't been to many tournaments...

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 22 2013, 07:23 PM

QUOTE(gutsmaka @ Dec 22 2013, 07:25 PM) *

alright, I have the money and the army! where and how do I pay! haven't been to many tournaments...

Refer to players pack. Link in first post.

Posted by: gutsmaka Dec 22 2013, 07:44 PM

it says 10$ dicsount if paid by 31/01/2013 is that an error to mean 2014? otherwise that was a year ago...

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 22 2013, 09:41 PM

QUOTE(gutsmaka @ Dec 22 2013, 08:44 PM) *

it says 10$ dicsount if paid by 31/01/2013 is that an error to mean 2014? otherwise that was a year ago...

You're imagining things. armata_PDT_05.gif

Posted by: gutsmaka Dec 22 2013, 10:40 PM

IPB Image

this is what I get

EDIT: oh dear, sorry for the immense size

Posted by: deadmuppet Dec 22 2013, 10:49 PM

QUOTE(gutsmaka @ Dec 22 2013, 10:40 PM) *

sorry for the immense size


Sigh... wish this was my pickup line.

Posted by: Behemoth Dec 23 2013, 03:46 AM

QUOTE(gutsmaka @ Dec 22 2013, 11:40 PM) *

this is what I get

EDIT: oh dear, sorry for the immense size


Yes I know, but I have fixed it already. Thanks for letting me know.

Posted by: defult06 Dec 23 2013, 05:17 AM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Dec 22 2013, 11:19 PM) *

Sigh... wish this was my pickup line.


Its all about expectation regulation.


Simon ATM I'm available to help out/be gumby on Saturday I'll try and work out a way to get Sunday also but its not looking very good

Posted by: Harvey Birdman Dec 23 2013, 07:11 AM

I think we need a Misogyny is Tournaments thread in off topic to settle this ebook fiasco once and for all, and name and shame the TOs behind this shocking and outrageous phenomenon.

Also, if it's cool and I'm not moving house that weekend, I'd REALLY like to come to a Dauthus for once.

Probably with Sexual Equality Friendly Nurgle Balls. Or Grey Knights if I get enough for Xmas.

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 1 2014, 04:11 PM

So pretty pumped for this, painting a whole new army up so should be good! really liking the way the army plays. I might even win a few games if I can remember all of my rules lol!

Posted by: scout max Jan 1 2014, 04:46 PM

yeah I'm ready to go now. Dark Angels again . just because I don't Think I'll get my Whites scars ready in time. Painting up a new command squad dry.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 1 2014, 05:31 PM

Yeah ill have the scars cranking by than i hope

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 1 2014, 07:19 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 1 2014, 05:01 PM) *

Yeah ill have the scars cranking by than i hope


Good thing the eBooks are banned at Dauthus or your latest newly purchased bandwagon army would be useless...

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 1 2014, 08:04 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Jan 1 2014, 07:49 PM) *

Good thing the eBooks are banned at Dauthus or your latest newly purchased bandwagon army would be useless...



I wish I could argue this point, but unfortunately you are correct

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 1 2014, 08:21 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 1 2014, 07:34 PM) *

I wish I could argue this point, but unfortunately you are correct


On the bright side, you can always ally your bandwagon Scars to your bandwagon Tau for the good old Twin Linked Ignores Cover Relentless Orbital Strike. All hard copy rules, pure pwnage.

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 1 2014, 08:23 PM

Yeah the 4 games ive played with scars, completely forgot about orbital.......

Posted by: defult06 Jan 1 2014, 08:40 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 1 2014, 08:34 PM) *

I wish I could argue this point, but unfortunately you are correct


I totally didn't add servo skulls to my list to screw with ponyboy

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 1 2014, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(defult06 @ Jan 1 2014, 08:10 PM) *

I totally didn't add servo skulls to my list to screw with ponyboy


Everyone will need to take legit Infiltrators to mess with Pony

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 2 2014, 08:08 AM

Who says I dont have my own infiltrators

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 2 2014, 08:45 AM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 2 2014, 07:38 AM) *

Who says I dont have my own infiltrators


Nice, an army that hard fails only 50% of games biggrin.gif

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 2 2014, 09:21 AM



Bummed the 'solo' data slate dudes are a no go.
Cypher & belator are cool.

Its okay pony can scout foward with all the grav he want first turn

Posted by: Harvey Birdman Jan 2 2014, 10:10 AM

Just get Simon to rig the draw so he plays all Orks and Guard.

Everyone picks o Adam. He does very little to deserve it.

Posted by: dominus nox Jan 2 2014, 12:13 PM

QUOTE(Harvey Birdman @ Jan 2 2014, 09:40 AM) *

Everyone picks o Adam. He does very little to deserve it.


He knows what he's done.

Posted by: defult06 Jan 2 2014, 02:54 PM

QUOTE(Harvey Birdman @ Jan 2 2014, 10:40 AM) *

Everyone picks o Adam. He does very little to deserve it.


Are we talking about the same Adam?

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 2 2014, 04:19 PM

QUOTE(dominus nox @ Jan 2 2014, 12:43 PM) *

He knows what he's done.


Hows the doom going michael.......oh wait

QUOTE(defult06 @ Jan 2 2014, 03:24 PM) *

Are we talking about the same Adam?


Just because I fielded 6 Hydras in our first friendly at GN!

Posted by: dominus nox Jan 2 2014, 04:29 PM

Much like DOOOMRIDER, the legacy of the The Doom will live on far after GW has forgotten it was ever a thing.

Posted by: defult06 Jan 2 2014, 04:45 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 2 2014, 04:49 PM) *

Just because I fielded 6 Hydras in our first friendly at GN!


People if you want to know why I have so many wave serpents ask the pony boy

Edit: OK now I'm in but I'll have to leave straight after my last game on sunday

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 2 2014, 06:59 PM

Ben has been talking it up, id like to call him out for a non cancellable grudge!

Posted by: defult06 Jan 2 2014, 07:07 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 2 2014, 07:29 PM) *

Ben has been talking it up, id like to call him out for a non cancellable grudge!


Not talking it up just talking you down if you read the message string nowhere do I say I will do well just when you mentioned about yourself taking a trophy home mentioned that simon gives a trophy for last place.....

Also said I didn't want to waste Simons time cause you would just back out of the grudge anyway...


Edit; happy to accept with a punishment setup for when you back out any suggestions guys?

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 2 2014, 07:18 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 2 2014, 07:29 PM) *
non cancellable grudge!



Lol we cannot pull out

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 2 2014, 07:22 PM

Dbl post

Posted by: Cypher Jan 2 2014, 07:57 PM

So just to clarify:

1 - Allies are a no-go.

2 - If I wanted to run Farsight Id need to have the book (which at $83 is never, ever happening tongue.gif )

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 2 2014, 07:57 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 2 2014, 06:48 PM) *

Lol we cannot pull out


You can always pull out, it's just a matter of timing

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 2 2014, 08:02 PM

QUOTE(Cypher @ Jan 2 2014, 08:27 PM) *

So just to clarify:

1 - Allies are a no-go.

2 - If I wanted to run Farsight Id need to have the book (which at $83 is never, ever happening tongue.gif )



My understanding is You do not need to have the book, it just has to be available as a hardcopy. And i believe allies are fine, its just no double FoC for primary

Posted by: defult06 Jan 2 2014, 08:04 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Jan 2 2014, 08:27 PM) *

You can always pull out, it's just a matter of timing


Its OK he pulled out already. I suggested if he pulled out before the day he would have to wear a pink too too all weekend. He then accused me of list tailoring cause I don't know if my gk will be ready by then so I'd be forced to take orks or space elves.



Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 2 2014, 08:13 PM

QUOTE(defult06 @ Jan 2 2014, 07:34 PM) *

Its OK he pulled out already. I suggested if he pulled out before the day he would have to wear a pink too too all weekend. He then accused me of list tailoring cause I don't know if my gk will be ready by then so I'd be forced to take orks or space elves.


So you're saying that Adam pulls out prematurely?

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 2 2014, 08:39 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Jan 2 2014, 07:43 PM) *

So you're saying that Adam pulls out prematurely?

Well when you finish prematurely
You generally pull out after that.


Posted by: Behemoth Jan 2 2014, 10:23 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 2 2014, 09:02 PM) *

My understanding is You do not need to have the book, it just has to be available as a hardcopy. And i believe allies are fine, its just no double FoC for primary


Correct.

Ben, you know Adam's a tease.

Posted by: Cypher Jan 3 2014, 12:43 PM

QUOTE
Correct.

Easy, cheers.

Posted by: dominus nox Jan 3 2014, 01:06 PM

Assuming the new 'Nid book will be used for Dauthus?

Posted by: defult06 Jan 3 2014, 01:38 PM

QUOTE(dominus nox @ Jan 3 2014, 01:36 PM) *

Assuming the new 'Nid book will be used for Dauthus?


As long s it contains no FMC right Simon?

Yeah i knew Adam wouldnt have gone through with it thats why i suggested the pink too too as punishment for backing out.

He also saw the list im working on which is less then good especially cause i make a higher percentage of 5+ saves then 2+ saves

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 3 2014, 04:20 PM

QUOTE(dominus nox @ Jan 3 2014, 02:06 PM) *

Assuming the new 'Nid book will be used for Dauthus?

Yep

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 3 2014, 04:32 PM

I have a relevant question simon. What about digital dexes that become hardbacks. So for instance what if sentinels of terra hardcopy is realeased the weekend before dauthus, the rules have been out for over 4 months but hardcopy only for a week, so can it be used?

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 3 2014, 04:37 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 3 2014, 05:32 PM) *

I have a relevant question simon. What about digital dexes that become hardbacks. So for instance what if sentinels of terra hardcopy is realeased the weekend before dauthus, the rules have been out for over 4 months but hardcopy only for a week, so can it be used?


I don't dabble in hypotheticals.

Posted by: scout max Jan 3 2014, 06:50 PM

there,s one thing I've found using the E-book s and P D F codex's, As even I have All of the codex's in P D F. There a pain in the back end to use quickly In a tournament game. I 've found looking in a paper book much ezyer and quicker, I find it show enough to get throw a game with out trying to scroll down on a phone. biggrin.gif And yes I looing for would to the this show.

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 4 2014, 09:18 AM

Well I just paid for the liquor license for Dauthus and OMG!!!

The F@#$&%G government has increased it from $41.75 per day to $75 per day! So that's $150 for Dauthus.

I can assure you that future events at Group North will be alcohol free (except probably Dauthus).

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 4 2014, 09:56 AM

Jesus! That's ridiculous! $150 for literally a prefilled PDF document we have to print ourselves? What a joke!

The government and GW must be working on the same pricing structure lol!

Posted by: zero Jan 4 2014, 10:43 AM

Thanks Simon, I can promise you that Damage, Michael and I will drink enough to get your moneys worth. Is it BYO or will there be a bar so you can make money back on it?

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 4 2014, 02:59 PM

QUOTE(zero @ Jan 4 2014, 11:43 AM) *

Thanks Simon, I can promise you that Damage, Michael and I will drink enough to get your moneys worth. Is it BYO or will there be a bar so you can make money back on it?

BYO. Too much hassle to organise a bar.

Posted by: CAPT DAMAGE Jan 4 2014, 03:25 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 4 2014, 03:29 PM) *

BYO. Too much hassle to organise a bar.


This is unheard of and I don't believe I am writing this.

But I am willing to charge folk $2 to put there hand in my chilly bin and the "extra" money can go to GH to help pay for the licence.

Posted by: deadmuppet Jan 4 2014, 03:33 PM

QUOTE(CAPT DAMAGE @ Jan 4 2014, 03:25 PM) *

This is unheard of and I don't believe I am writing this.
hand in my chilly bin


very kiwi bro!

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 4 2014, 04:07 PM

QUOTE(CAPT DAMAGE @ Jan 4 2014, 04:25 PM) *

This is unheard of and I don't believe I am writing this.

But I am willing to charge folk $2 to put there hand in my chilly bin and the "extra" money can go to GH to help pay for the licence.

Did you hit your head recently Damage?

It's cool, just means less (or no) prizes. Hopefully a few more players will come on-board.

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 4 2014, 06:05 PM

Simon FAQ question!

Do vehicles get a cover save/invulnerable save against grav weapons. Relevent wording is:

"When resolving a hit against a vehicle, roll a d6 for each hit instead of rolling for armour penetration as normal. On a 1-5 nothing happens, but on a 6, The vehicle suffers an immobilised result and loses a single hull point"

The reason this is relevant is because in the rulebook it states saves (cover and invulnerable) for vehicles are made against glancing/penetrating hits.

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 4 2014, 09:00 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 4 2014, 07:05 PM) *

Simon FAQ question!

Do vehicles get a cover save/invulnerable save against grav weapons. Relevent wording is:

"When resolving a hit against a vehicle, roll a d6 for each hit instead of rolling for armour penetration as normal. On a 1-5 nothing happens, but on a 6, The vehicle suffers an immobilised result and loses a single hull point"

The reason this is relevant is because in the rulebook it states saves (cover and invulnerable) for vehicles are made against glancing/penetrating hits.

Yes

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 4 2014, 09:59 PM) *

Yes

because GW should be more consistant in their God dammed ######ing rules !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 4 2014, 09:31 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 4 2014, 09:30 PM) *

Yes
because GW should be more consistant in their God dammed ######ing rules !!!!!!!!!!!


Ok, can the serpent shield be weapon destroyed?

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 4 2014, 10:36 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 4 2014, 10:31 PM) *

Ok, can the serpent shield be weapon destroyed?

I'm drunk! ###### you Cononoly!

If you are playing Eldar then yes! Otherswise ???????????????

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 4 2014, 10:39 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 4 2014, 11:36 PM) *

I'm drunk! ###### you Cononoly!

If you are playimg Eldar then yes! Otherswise ???????????????


####, is Charles playing? Yes or ???????????????????

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 4 2014, 10:42 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 4 2014, 11:39 PM) *

####, is Charles playing? Yes or ???????????????????

Eldar are now banned from Dauthus! Problem solved.

Eldar are a bit feminine anyway and apparently I hate women so no loss.

Posted by: Harvey Birdman Jan 5 2014, 05:22 AM

Awesome. The Balls have a Drake now.
IPB Image

I'm bringing Codex: Warp Storm with some Daemon and CSM allies.

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 5 2014, 07:50 AM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 4 2014, 11:12 PM) *

Eldar are now banned from Dauthus! Problem solved.

Eldar are a bit feminine anyway and apparently I hate women so no loss.



Sweet wanna ban tau aswell? tongue.gif

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 5 2014, 08:10 AM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 5 2014, 08:50 AM) *

Sweet wanna ban tau aswell? tongue.gif

Yes - not manly enough looking!

Posted by: gutsmaka Jan 5 2014, 08:26 AM

in that case you should ban sisters...

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 5 2014, 08:32 AM

QUOTE(gutsmaka @ Jan 5 2014, 09:26 AM) *

in that case you should ban sisters...


Dark Eldar too - sure they are into S & M but they still look like girls.

Posted by: defult06 Jan 5 2014, 08:45 AM

Ban everything but wolves cause they are the real men? Next to them all others like like girly men.



Posted by: ru486baby Jan 5 2014, 09:04 AM

wave serpent shield is not a weapon.
Only pony thinks it should be destroyed.
Was not ruled that way for atc or sa masters or any other event Im aware of.
If we are banning girly things. then the reverse should be allowed allow cypher and beletkor those to are some of the manliest mother hubbers around. (that dont have beards )

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 5 2014, 09:10 AM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Jan 5 2014, 10:04 AM) *

wave serpent shield is not a weapon.
Only pony thinks it should be destroyed.
Was not ruled that way for atc or sa masters or any other event Im aware of.
If we are banning girly things. then the reverse should be allowed allow cypher and beletkor those to are some of the manliest mother hubbers around. (that dont have beards )


Dude, they are not Space Wolves and it's already been ruled that they are the manliest men of all. All else are girly men. I can't go against official rulings, it would create too much confusion in the game. armata_PDT_05.gif

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 5 2014, 09:19 AM

I am playing a full army of Wolf Scouts that have cunningly disguised themselves as Eldar and stolen a bunch of Eldar tanks. Their manly beards are all tucked up into those pointy helmets.

Posted by: defult06 Jan 9 2014, 10:04 AM

So Iccan't decide which army to play for this the 3 choices are

Gray knights currently haven't started painting them though

Grand master with psycannon

Vindacre

5 man pallys 2 psycannons

5 man termys psycannon
5 man termys psycannon
5 man termys incinerator

Psyflemen
Psyfleman
Dreadknight

Agis with a lascannon

Or eldar

Farseer on a bike

5x5 man dire avenges in serpents
Jetbikes

2 crimson hunters

2 wraithknights

Or orks

Warbike warboss
Big mek with kff

2x5 lootas

2x 30 man boys
2x 20 man boys in battlewagon's
4 nob bikers

3x dakka jets

The orks and eldar are painted already so that's a plus but the gk I want to paint and dauthus maybe a target to get them finished I know its not the best list but should be some fun.



Posted by: 4ndi Jan 9 2014, 11:01 AM

Go with orks.... I love when they run into my pulse rifles and sms armata_PDT_36.gif

Posted by: deadmuppet Jan 9 2014, 01:22 PM

dont u need fire warriors for that andi?

Posted by: barit Jan 9 2014, 02:00 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 5 2014, 08:02 AM) *

Dark Eldar too - sure they are into S & M but they still look like girls.


explains my compulsion towards them!

Go for the Orks Ben, will grudge you for a nid horde first round smile.gif

Posted by: CAPT DAMAGE Jan 9 2014, 09:57 PM

Ca$h sent.

Posted by: Harvey Birdman Jan 10 2014, 05:21 AM

QUOTE(defult06 @ Jan 9 2014, 09:34 AM) *

Farseer on a bike

5x5 man dire avenges in serpents
Jetbikes

2 crimson hunters

2 wraithknights

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Posted by: defult06 Jan 10 2014, 08:41 AM

QUOTE(Harvey Birdman @ Jan 10 2014, 05:51 AM) *

armata_PDT_05.gif

So ill take that as a vote for the eldar?

Posted by: 4ndi Jan 10 2014, 10:05 AM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Jan 9 2014, 12:52 PM) *

dont u need fire warriors for that andi?


I've got 12 of those bad boys, enough to kill those orks tongue.gif.

Posted by: scout max Jan 11 2014, 02:32 PM

just pay today .

Posted by: Cypher Jan 11 2014, 07:47 PM

QUOTE(Harvey Birdman @ Jan 10 2014, 05:51 AM) *

armata_PDT_05.gif

I thought Eldar were banned anyhow?

Simon just need to check the dates, but since the list is filling put me down for a spot.

Posted by: Mystblade Jan 12 2014, 02:34 PM

Can you Please put down Alexander Dagger, talked him into coming this year as well now.

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 12 2014, 04:06 PM

2nd new table painted.

IPB Image

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 12 2014, 04:33 PM

Looks really good man!

Posted by: NailBunny Jan 12 2014, 05:08 PM

I was supposed to do this earlier but I'm in (Royce Phillips)

Posted by: CAPT DAMAGE Jan 12 2014, 05:44 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 12 2014, 04:36 PM) *

2nd new table painted.

IPB Image


Makes me want to play my ORK SPEED FREEKZ smile.gif

Posted by: Harvey Birdman Jan 12 2014, 06:28 PM

Because lots of dangerous terrain checks for infantry? tongue.gif

Posted by: NailBunny Jan 12 2014, 07:05 PM

May I suggest this year blue-tacking the terrain down? Especially the foam stuff they always get knocked around when measuring and moving models.

Posted by: gutsmaka Jan 12 2014, 07:17 PM

Quick question, do we need to supply our own objectives?

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 12 2014, 11:11 PM

QUOTE(gutsmaka @ Jan 12 2014, 08:17 PM) *

Quick question, do we need to supply our own objectives?


Yes - but bottle tops are acceptable. armata_PDT_01.gif

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 13 2014, 12:52 AM

IPB Image

AHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHa

Posted by: Harvey Birdman Jan 13 2014, 06:24 AM

IPB Image
AHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHa

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 14 2014, 03:45 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 4 2014, 09:30 PM) *

Yes
because GW should be more consistant in their God dammed ######ing rules !!!!!!!!!!!



I have another question in relation to this! When do they take the save? Against my hit? Or against the immobilised result?

Do vehicles get invulnerable saves against the immobilised results from driving through terrain? This is the same issue really?

Posted by: defult06 Jan 14 2014, 04:23 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 14 2014, 04:15 PM) *

I have another question in relation to this! When do they take the save? Against my hit? Or against the immobilised result?

Do vehicles get invulnerable saves against the immobilised results from driving through terrain? This is the same issue really?


You have lost the war give up.

Save would be taken after the immobilised result

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 14 2014, 05:34 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 14 2014, 03:15 PM) *

Do vehicles get invulnerable saves against the immobilised results from driving through terrain? This is the same issue really?


Yes, this is in the DE FAQ (and has been there for a year).

Posted by: SprayAnPray Jan 14 2014, 05:58 PM

Hey guys, I can't confirm my attendance yet but was wondering if anybody had 2 Landraiders (the lascannon/heavy bolter ones) with multimelta turrets that I could borrow for the tourny?
Pm me if u can help

Posted by: Mystblade Jan 15 2014, 04:25 PM

Would also like to put myself and Alexander Dagger down for a grudge match, hopefully he will sign up here soon so he can accept it... :/

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 16 2014, 04:15 PM

Payment made! Now i just need to paint like the wind

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 16 2014, 05:06 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 16 2014, 03:45 PM) *

Payment made! Now i just need to paint like the wind


That's the trouble with ye olde bandwagon...

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 16 2014, 07:58 PM

#### I still dont know what to play.

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 16 2014, 08:28 PM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Jan 16 2014, 07:28 PM) *

#### I still dont know what to play.


Dust off the GKs for old times sake.

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 16 2014, 09:15 PM

Was actually an option.
But they in storage

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 16 2014, 09:39 PM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Jan 16 2014, 09:45 PM) *

Was actually an option.
But they in storage


If you could win dauthus with GK primary I would happily wear a Tutu to ATC both days!

Posted by: scout max Jan 16 2014, 10:01 PM

Well now that I have the marine codex. I m thinking of running white scars again. I love my bikers smile.gif . I know I can use t PDF on my phone but the book is so much quicker at a tournament. I have sent a list in. But if I can get 4 new bikes painted and Simon let's me I all do a resubmit.

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 16 2014, 10:15 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 16 2014, 09:09 PM) *

If you could win dauthus with GK primary I would happily wear a Tutu to ATC both days!

Tempting

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 16 2014, 10:17 PM

Resubmits are fine.

Tyranids are waaaaaayyy over the top now. Play them Josh.

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 16 2014, 10:43 PM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Jan 13 2014, 12:22 AM) *

IPB Image

AHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHa

I wanna play sisters but simon wont let me.

Posted by: defult06 Jan 17 2014, 05:19 AM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 16 2014, 10:09 PM) *

If you could win dauthus with GK primary I would happily wear a Tutu to ATC both days!


Is this open to everyone?

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 17 2014, 06:18 AM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 16 2014, 09:09 PM) *

If you could win dauthus with GK primary I would happily wear a Tutu to ATC both days!


lol, Pony thinks a state is going to pick him for ATC tongue.gif

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 17 2014, 08:31 AM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Jan 17 2014, 05:48 AM) *

lol, Pony thinks a state is going to pick him for ATC tongue.gif


I just thought he would turn up in one.

Posted by: barit Jan 17 2014, 09:53 AM

Nids are balls, dont have the models to make it work for the new dex...

Posted by: Harvey Birdman Jan 17 2014, 10:12 AM

QUOTE
Nids are balls

Possibly, if the codex is good enough.

Posted by: barit Jan 17 2014, 10:48 AM

You got to expand your horizons dude, move on from the balls:

pipe cleaners
button stacks
paddlepop sticks

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 17 2014, 11:50 AM

QUOTE(barit @ Jan 17 2014, 09:23 AM) *

Nids are balls, dont have the models to make it work for the new dex...

Hahahaha.
Its not you dont have the models.
Its the book is a pile of ####.
It needs Fatey.

Posted by: barit Jan 17 2014, 12:23 PM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Jan 17 2014, 11:20 AM) *

Hahahaha.
Its not you dont have the models.
Its the book is a pile of ####.
It needs Fatey.


Yeah needed something better, will probably come through with dataslates and supplements the ass bandits.

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 21 2014, 09:16 AM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 16 2014, 09:09 PM) *

If you could win dauthus with GK primary I would happily wear a Tutu to ATC both days!


I could win dauthus with gk.
More than likely I wont but I could.
So did you want a pink tutu or should
I pick you up a green one like the toxic avenger? ??

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 21 2014, 09:30 AM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Jan 21 2014, 09:46 AM) *

I could win dauthus with gk.
More than likely I wont but I could.
So did you want a pink tutu or should
I pick you up a green one like the toxic avenger? ??



I swear man bring a GK primary to Dauthus, win and ill wear what ever color tutu you want!

Posted by: barit Jan 21 2014, 10:30 AM

Can everyone bring GK now? One of us is bound to win.

Posted by: defult06 Jan 21 2014, 11:38 AM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 21 2014, 10:00 AM) *

I swear man bring a GK primary to Dauthus, win and ill wear what ever color tutu you want!


You should really just make it if he brings gk as primary and finishes above you with your wagon jumping net list

Posted by: neil Jan 21 2014, 11:54 AM

So th SoB e-book is banned, does that mean SoB players use the old printed White Dwarf list instead?

Posted by: deadmuppet Jan 21 2014, 12:09 PM

just a quick one in the players pack for paint score "are their any conversions" is awarded a point. What army actually needs conversions anymore? nearly every codex has their models out now. their are alot of armys that not only don't need conversions but doing so brings nothing to the army. what do u need to convert in a necron, SM eldar,tau,chaos or bug book? is it fair to gimp people for having a current army with a great model range?

"also does ur character models stand out from the crowd". again with the introduction of massive mc's ur hq isn't really the best looking models anymore. in tau my ethereal gets overshadowed by every model in the book.

don't get me wrong people want their to be paint scores as i can give people a little edge. but no army i have can get close to top marks with this checklist. or should i be happy with a 6-8/10 ?


Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 21 2014, 12:14 PM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Jan 21 2014, 12:39 PM) *

just a quick one in the players pack for paint score "are their any conversions" is awarded a point. What army actually needs conversions anymore? nearly every codex has their models out now. their are alot of armys that not only don't need conversions but doing so brings nothing to the army. what do u need to convert in a necron, SM eldar,tau,chaos or bug book? is it fair to gimp people for having a current army with a great model range?



It just shows you put in a bit more effort than buying everything off the shelf! For tau it could be as simple as using a Crisis as a crisis commander with a few different bits and bobs to represent M3S and CCN! Even my necrons had a conversion!

Posted by: deadmuppet Jan 21 2014, 12:19 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 21 2014, 12:14 PM) *

It just shows you put in a bit more effort than buying everything off the shelf! For tau it could be as simple as using a Crisis as a crisis commander with a few different bits and bobs to represent M3S and CCN! Even my necrons had a conversion!


so use an old model to make a commander when they actualy have a cool commander model now that has all the options on him?

arm swaps don't count as a conversion. this is not what the extra points are awarded for years ago when people made these checklists. the game has changed so the checklist should change.

Posted by: deadmuppet Jan 21 2014, 12:29 PM

Paid. Mathew Cross.

Posted by: dominus nox Jan 21 2014, 01:00 PM

Dude, you're Suit Commander is already converted to be the limbo king tongue.gif

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 21 2014, 01:27 PM

Arm swaps totally count! ###### head swaps count! Anything thats not standard.....

Posted by: barit Jan 21 2014, 01:39 PM

Crossy run this as your buff commander...

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You can get it off ebay for 4 bucks!

Posted by: neil Jan 21 2014, 02:29 PM

QUOTE(dominus nox @ Jan 21 2014, 12:30 PM) *

Dude, you're Suit Commander is already converted to be the limbo king tongue.gif


That's how they are out of the box. My commander needed a length of rod jammed up his backside to stop it..

Posted by: deadmuppet Jan 21 2014, 02:31 PM

QUOTE(barit @ Jan 21 2014, 01:39 PM) *

Crossy run this as your buff commander...

IPB Image

You can get it off ebay for 4 bucks!


well it does stand out and in adam's book as long as i swap some of the fingers around then its totally a conversion.

unfortunately i already use this as my counts as mephiston.

Posted by: SprayAnPray Jan 21 2014, 05:23 PM

I haven't payed yet but was wondering if this was an Ok format for an army list?
Would I have to change anything?

http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/SprayAnPray/media/DauthusArmyList_zpsdcbd0196.png.html

I copied the format from the SA Masters thread that had the lists posted on it

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 21 2014, 06:03 PM

QUOTE(SprayAnPray @ Jan 21 2014, 06:23 PM) *

I haven't payed yet but was wondering if this was an Ok format for an army list?
Would I have to change anything?

http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/SprayAnPray/media/DauthusArmyList_zpsdcbd0196.png.html

I copied the format from the SA Masters thread that had the lists posted on it


This fine - please email it to me.

Posted by: SprayAnPray Jan 21 2014, 06:04 PM

Will do

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 21 2014, 06:14 PM

QUOTE(neil @ Jan 21 2014, 11:24 AM) *

So th SoB e-book is banned, does that mean SoB players use the old printed White Dwarf list instead?


Only if you have the original pages torn from the WD. If it's a PDF then it's evil technology and must be burned. BURNED!!!1

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 21 2014, 08:36 PM

QUOTE(neil @ Jan 21 2014, 12:54 PM) *

So th SoB e-book is banned, does that mean SoB players use the old printed White Dwarf list instead?

SoB are banned - deal with it. armata_PDT_07.gif

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 21 2014, 08:48 PM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Jan 21 2014, 01:09 PM) *

just a quick one in the players pack for paint score "are their any conversions" is awarded a point. What army actually needs conversions anymore? nearly every codex has their models out now. their are alot of armys that not only don't need conversions but doing so brings nothing to the army. what do u need to convert in a necron, SM eldar,tau,chaos or bug book? is it fair to gimp people for having a current army with a great model range?

"also does ur character models stand out from the crowd". again with the introduction of massive mc's ur hq isn't really the best looking models anymore. in tau my ethereal gets overshadowed by every model in the book.

don't get me wrong people want their to be paint scores as i can give people a little edge. but no army i have can get close to top marks with this checklist. or should i be happy with a 6-8/10 ?


GN has a number of tournaments throughout the year, each with it's own theme and Dauthus is the only one I do that includes painting as part of the overall score. It's out biggest tourney and it's meant to represent more than just winning by the cheesiest army of the day. Other tourneys such as Redemption don't even care if the models are unpainted.

I don't believe it's gimping people at all to do a conversion and I think I have only seen a completely zero conversion army 2 or 3 times in the last 10 years.

When I judge these thing I am fairly lenient and the majority of players will score an easy 6 or 7 out of 10 with just a little bit of effort. Only a handful of players will score the extra few points over you.

Posted by: deadmuppet Jan 21 2014, 09:59 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 21 2014, 08:48 PM) *

I don't believe it's gimping people at all to do a conversion and I think I have only seen a completely zero conversion army 2 or 3 times in the last 10 years.


really? i have 4 armys. none have conversions (arm swaps don't really count as a conversion) if u have to explain were the conversion is then how is this a key painting point?). going of this i can't get anything more than an 8. I'm not demanding a 10/10 i just think u should relook into the paint score checklist that was made in the late 90's. that checklist was the exact same one i saw in my first tournament 15 years ago....

i love tournaments with paint scores mate. as I'm a better painter than a player. i just feel the conversion tick box is a litre outdated.

if u count arm swaps... then i have fire warrior models with dif guns that i use as pathfinders pathfinders...

I'm really looking forward to this event. will prob be last SA tournament i use the tau at. i would be playing bugs at this but I'm not sure i can get the models needed and painted in a month.

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 21 2014, 10:42 PM

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Did he just diss the 90's?

Ummmmm, yeah I think he did.

He is a DEAD MAN!

Posted by: Origin Jan 22 2014, 01:28 PM

Hey Simon,

Unfortunately i will not be able to attend this year. I have just had dates confirmed for a Uni Trip in February and I fly out on the Sunday. Shame i was looking forward to it.

Cheers

Ty

Posted by: defult06 Jan 24 2014, 12:07 AM

Need a quick TO ruling.

Space Marine codex Techmarines bolster defences.

Rule says cant make the cover save greater then 3+ does this mean if they go to ground in the bolstered defence they still get a 3+ save as the rule states no greater then 3+.

Pony boy says they should get a 2+ for gtg but this works for him so ofc he would say that.

I disagree cause the rule clearly states the cover cant become greater the 3+

Posted by: DarkHorse Jan 24 2014, 12:31 AM

QUOTE(neil @ Jan 21 2014, 10:54 AM) *

So th SoB e-book is banned, does that mean SoB players use the old printed White Dwarf list instead?


Just run SoB as counts as Salamanders, rubber band some thunder hammers on to their backs. Kids these days...no creativity...

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 24 2014, 06:51 AM

QUOTE(defult06 @ Jan 24 2014, 01:07 AM) *

Need a quick TO ruling.

Space Marine codex Techmarines bolster defences.

Rule says cant make the cover save greater then 3+ does this mean if they go to ground in the bolstered defence they still get a 3+ save as the rule states no greater then 3+.

Pony boy says they should get a 2+ for gtg but this works for him so ofc he would say that.

I disagree cause the rule clearly states the cover cant become greater the 3+


Yes, I see what you mean. I rule that you can only bolster to a maximum of 3+ and GtG will give you a 2+.

Interesting - they changed it to any terrain piece not just ruins.

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 24 2014, 09:52 AM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Jan 21 2014, 09:29 PM) *

. i would be playing bugs at this but I'm not sure i can get the models needed and painted in a month.

Haha
I havent even finished building my arc army (1350)
And its next week.
Paint is also like 25%

P.S converting is as much of army creation as painting

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 24 2014, 11:27 AM

QUOTE(defult06 @ Jan 24 2014, 12:37 AM) *

Need a quick TO ruling.

Space Marine codex Techmarines bolster defences.

Rule says cant make the cover save greater then 3+ does this mean if they go to ground in the bolstered defence they still get a 3+ save as the rule states no greater then 3+.

Pony boy says they should get a 2+ for gtg but this works for him so ofc he would say that.

I disagree cause the rule clearly states the cover cant become greater the 3+


I like how you paraphrased it to suit you better! Just cause your supercheese eldar lost to my soft scars list!

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 24 2014, 02:47 PM

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Posted by: SprayAnPray Jan 24 2014, 03:01 PM

Very nice, Am I allowed to grudge Pony to get the trophy tongue.gif

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 24 2014, 04:25 PM

I really want Brittain to win the pony trophy again!

Posted by: 4ndi Jan 24 2014, 04:31 PM

Now we have a problem...can't use that daemon prince together with Tau that efficient in a game.... ..straight into the trophy cabinet tongue.gif

Posted by: defult06 Jan 24 2014, 06:03 PM

QUOTE(SprayAnPray @ Jan 24 2014, 03:31 PM) *

Very nice, Am I allowed to grudge Pony to get the trophy tongue.gif


You could but he doesn't have a very good reputation for keeping grudges.

I though demon won it last year.



Also hate to say it Simon but you wrong about the 2+ cover

Heres one reason for only getting 3+

I am controlling player so i get to choose the order of how stuff stacks

5+ for area terrain
+2 for gtg in area terrain making it 3+
Then the bolster comes into effect but cant lower the save.


Posted by: ru486baby Jan 24 2014, 06:10 PM

QUOTE(defult06 @ Jan 24 2014, 05:33 PM) *

You could but he doesn't have a very good reputation for keeping grudges.

I though demon won it last year.
Also hate to say it Simon but you wrong about the 2+ cover

Heres one reason for only getting 3+

I am controlling player so i get to choose the order of how stuff stacks

5+ for area terrain
+2 for gtg in area terrain making it 3+
Then the bolster comes into effect but cant lower the save.


Except that the base save of the area terrain is now 4+.
Its not a stuational buff but a change of base stat for the game.

Posted by: defult06 Jan 24 2014, 06:14 PM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Jan 24 2014, 06:40 PM) *

Except that the base save of the area terrain is now 4+.
Its not a stuational buff but a change of base stat for the game.


Shhh stop agreeing with pony boy

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 25 2014, 02:31 PM

6 days left to get your early bird $10 discount!

Posted by: SprayAnPray Jan 26 2014, 10:28 AM

Payment sent for Matt Taverna
(1x Early Bird Under 18)

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 27 2014, 01:48 PM

Hi all

I just got word that Scott from HM will be donating $200 of vouchers to Dauthus plus whatever I can put in from door fees.

Scott is a great supporter of gaming in SA and I am sure I speak for all when I say a big thank you to him for his support. I have also promised him free Pony Boy rides when ever he wants. armata_PDT_34.gif

Thanks Scott!


Posted by: Cypher Jan 28 2014, 05:18 PM

Paid - 'Dauthus Nick Hardy'

Posted by: ru486baby Jan 28 2014, 07:40 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Oct 11 2013, 11:47 AM)

08) Adam Napier (cool_conoly) - Paid - List received (over points allowed)



Lol wtf?

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 28 2014, 07:50 PM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Jan 28 2014, 08:10 PM) *

Lol wtf?


I tried to slip one by simon, but he's too smart for that! armata_PDT_02.gif

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 30 2014, 08:43 AM

Ok correct list submitted.

Posted by: Dismembered Jan 30 2014, 11:21 AM

Paid -"Dauthus S Johnson"

Posted by: zero Jan 30 2014, 06:32 PM

Hey Simon,

Have paid for Steve Gilman.
I only paid $30 as I overpaid $10 for myself (again! - you say you don't take bribes but I try every year!)
I suppose I shall have to resort to tactics again this year?
Or I will just have a beer or two....
Will try remember to send my list in on time, and Steve's.

Cheers mate.

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 30 2014, 07:08 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 30 2014, 09:43 AM) *

Ok correct list submitted.


Sorry but I think this list is illegal. I'll email you.

Posted by: Charlie_W Jan 30 2014, 07:32 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Jan 30 2014, 06:38 PM) *

Sorry but I think this list is illegal. I'll email you.


Pony Boy, cheating before the tournament even starts, GG.

Posted by: cool_conoly Jan 30 2014, 09:07 PM

FYI I think tom is not coming, he said he is in melbourne that weekend

Posted by: Behemoth Jan 30 2014, 09:08 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Jan 30 2014, 10:07 PM) *

FYI I think tom is not coming, he said he is in melbourne that weekend

Ok, Thanks.

Posted by: Buddha Jan 31 2014, 01:58 PM

Can confirm, will be interstate sad.gif Pretty cut.

Posted by: Demon Jan 31 2014, 05:28 PM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Jan 21 2014, 12:19 PM) *

so use an old model to make a commander when they actualy have a cool commander model now that has all the options on him?

arm swaps don't count as a conversion. this is not what the extra points are awarded for years ago when people made these checklists. the game has changed so the checklist should change.


Conversions arent just about scratchbuilding a mini that hasnt been released. Its about modelling a narrative and going that bit past an arm swap. Its in the same realm as a paint score for highlighting. Its also a point. Youre doing it wrong, complaining about tourney pack scoring when you lose by a point should happen after the tournament

Posted by: scout max Jan 31 2014, 06:42 PM

Well just sent my army list in. evil grin. you can hear the distant rumble of the bike engines .

Posted by: deadmuppet Feb 1 2014, 09:22 AM

QUOTE(Demon @ Jan 31 2014, 05:28 PM) *

Its also a point. Youre doing it wrong, complaining about tourney pack scoring when you lose by a point should happen after the tournament


lol. if u get it changed before hand then their is nothing to complain about. all good. i just really wanna know what is consedered a conversion?

i say swaping arms doesnt count. and if it does then like i said i have old metal pathfinders with fire warrios guns as a fire warrior.... the backpacks dont match so its totaly a conversion... my only army with conversion is using two diffirent companys arms and bodys for my dreadnought. but that's because this is the case were the gw model doesnt look great for what i wanted.


Posted by: Harvey Birdman Feb 1 2014, 09:49 PM

Now I actually have a LEGAL army list (because Noise Marines are only troops in a PRIMARY detachment - oops) I'm almost good to go.

Simon, I would have thrown you cash already, but I had floorboards and paint to buy.
So I'm out $10 biggrin.gif
Will pay after I've moved next week. Sorry dude.

Heh.....6 MCs, only 5 of them fly.

And a Drake.

Calling the Spoon right now.

Posted by: defult06 Feb 2 2014, 08:58 AM

List and money sent I blame Pony Boy for everything

Posted by: cool_conoly Feb 2 2014, 09:21 AM

So what the go with my list simon, Do i need to resubmit?

Posted by: Behemoth Feb 2 2014, 09:24 AM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Feb 2 2014, 10:21 AM) *

So what the go with my list simon, Do i need to resubmit?

Yes

Posted by: Charlie_W Feb 2 2014, 01:09 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Feb 2 2014, 08:51 AM) *

So what the go with my list simon, Do i need to resubmit?


Stop cheating Pony Boy

Posted by: cool_conoly Feb 2 2014, 04:00 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Feb 2 2014, 01:39 PM) *

Stop cheating Pony Boy



This one is a legit different interpretation of reading, needs an FAQ for sure, no biggy just means I get more bikes

Posted by: Charlie_W Feb 2 2014, 05:38 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Feb 2 2014, 03:30 PM) *

This one is a legit different interpretation of reading, needs an FAQ for sure, no biggy just means I get more bikes


"Legit different interpretation"

Is that what the kids call "twisting the rules" these days? tongue.gif

Posted by: Charlie_W Feb 2 2014, 05:45 PM

So if Objectives are being placed out of order to the Rulebook, what is the Dauthus order of pre-game actions?

Roll off to see who places first Objective
Place Objectives
Roll off for deployment zone choice
Place Forts
Warlord/Psychic/Night Fight etc.
Roll of for deployment/first turn

Or something else? If Objectives are placed before Forts, how close can a Fort be placed to an Objective?

Posted by: Behemoth Feb 2 2014, 05:51 PM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Feb 2 2014, 06:45 PM) *

So if Objectives are being placed out of order to the Rulebook, what is the Dauthus order of pre-game actions?

Roll off to see who places first Objective
Place Objectives
Roll off for deployment zone choice
Place Forts
Warlord/Psychic/Night Fight etc.
Roll of for deployment/first turn

Or something else? If Objectives are placed before Forts, how close can a Fort be placed to an Objective?



As above. Forts cannot be placed over objectives but the sky shield can as you can move under it.

Posted by: cool_conoly Feb 2 2014, 06:33 PM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Feb 2 2014, 06:21 PM) *

As above. Forts cannot be placed over objectives but the sky shield can as you can move under it.



With reference to the skyshield, can you simply use 3" to move from top to bottom without going to the edge? or must you leave it by going 3" down off one of the sides?

Posted by: Behemoth Feb 2 2014, 07:08 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Feb 2 2014, 07:33 PM) *

With reference to the skyshield, can you simply use 3" to move from top to bottom without going to the edge? or must you leave it by going 3" down off one of the sides?

You cant go through it! Over the edge and back under you must go.

Posted by: barit Feb 3 2014, 09:36 AM

QUOTE(Behemoth @ Feb 2 2014, 06:38 PM) *

You cant go through it! Over the edge and back under you must go.


Or one of the 4 access points for infantry... Where the ladders and man hole covers are, cause you know, forging the narrative.

Posted by: barit Feb 3 2014, 09:42 AM

List submitted, I can hear the screams of the vulnerable now...

Posted by: cool_conoly Feb 3 2014, 11:31 AM

QUOTE(barit @ Feb 3 2014, 10:06 AM) *

Or one of the 4 access points for infantry... Where the ladders and man hole covers are, cause you know, forging the narrative.


###### the narrative! Moving down the sides you woman!

QUOTE(barit @ Feb 3 2014, 10:12 AM) *

List submitted, I can hear the screams of the vulnerable now...


Wanna have a test run sometime?

Posted by: barit Feb 3 2014, 01:17 PM

You tell me that I cant use the access points as per modelled on the friggin model?

Yeah can if you want, will hit you up with my free times next week.

Posted by: cool_conoly Feb 3 2014, 01:31 PM

QUOTE(barit @ Feb 3 2014, 01:47 PM) *

You tell me that I cant use the access points as per modelled on the friggin model?

Yeah can if you want, will hit you up with my free times next week.



No way! Off the edge baby!

Posted by: Charlie_W Feb 3 2014, 03:45 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Feb 3 2014, 01:01 PM) *

No way! Off the edge baby!


If Josh wants to use the man holes that badly, do you want to stand in his way?

Posted by: Cypher Feb 4 2014, 09:06 PM

List sent to Group North email address.

Posted by: barit Feb 5 2014, 10:38 AM

QUOTE(Charlie_W @ Feb 3 2014, 03:15 PM) *

If Josh wants to use the man holes that badly, do you want to stand in his way?


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Posted by: cool_conoly Feb 5 2014, 12:52 PM

So I still have a display base to finish, 5 models to paint completely, and than 40 others needs washing and highlighting. Pretty cruisy for 2 and a bit weeks lol

Posted by: Cypher Feb 5 2014, 01:00 PM

Im still at the cutting and gluing stage...

Posted by: Behemoth Feb 5 2014, 07:09 PM

Hi all

Lists have to be in by this Friday for the 5 bonus points!

A number of people are yet to pay. Can you please let me know if you are still playing. armata_PDT_02.gif

I will be away from 15th - 22nd with limited internet access. Monkey (Ben) has offered to help out with TO duties so any questions during this time are his call.

If you send in a list during this time please send to Monkey as well as to me for checking (I have yet to ask him about this but thanks Ben armata_PDT_34.gif ).

Cheers

Simon

Posted by: neil Feb 5 2014, 07:43 PM

Hey Simon I'm gonna give it a miss, just not feeling 40k at the moment.
Have fun!

Posted by: ru486baby Feb 6 2014, 11:27 PM


Gonna have to get along with out me
Will see you ******* at terracon.

Posted by: ru486baby Feb 6 2014, 11:35 PM

For those asking

Eldrad

5 spiritseers
1 wing of falcon

Dare Avengers
WS scatter cannon x4

Baron

Warriors
Venom 2 cannons trophies x2

Beast pack
5 jerks
1 claw
5 dogs
6 flocks

Adl

For those asking

Eldrad

5 spiritseers
1 wing of falcon

Dare Avengers
WS scatter cannon x4

Baron

Warriors
Venom 2 cannons trophies x2

Beast pack
5 jerks
1 claw
5 dogs
6 flocks

Adl

Posted by: cool_conoly Feb 7 2014, 08:38 AM

Wow kinda wish you were coming if you were bringing that...nothing I like better than tearing beast packs apart in combat

Posted by: CAPT DAMAGE Feb 7 2014, 10:35 AM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Feb 6 2014, 11:57 PM) *

Gonna have to get along with out me


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Posted by: deadmuppet Feb 7 2014, 12:26 PM

List sent.

after the awesome spread of food at Apples i expect nothing but gourmet sausages on the bbq thanks. Maby even some fancy salad also.


Posted by: Dwax Feb 7 2014, 01:23 PM

List PM'ed.....

Posted by: defult06 Feb 7 2014, 02:51 PM

QUOTE(deadmuppet @ Feb 7 2014, 12:56 PM) *

Maby even some fancy salad also.


You don't win friends or 40hammers with salad

Posted by: Charlie_W Feb 7 2014, 02:54 PM

QUOTE(defult06 @ Feb 7 2014, 02:21 PM) *

You don't win friends or 40hammers with salad


Salad at a BBQ? gtfo

There will be sausage. So much sausage...

Posted by: deadmuppet Feb 7 2014, 03:06 PM

QUOTE(defult06 @ Feb 7 2014, 02:51 PM) *

You don't win friends or 40hammers with salad


my kroot eat salad and their winners.


Posted by: 4ndi Feb 7 2014, 06:01 PM

List sent, GK with triple Laindraider, bastion and Tau in the backfield muhahaha.

Posted by: ru486baby Feb 7 2014, 06:17 PM

QUOTE(cool_conoly @ Feb 7 2014, 08:08 AM) *

Wow kinda wish you were coming if you were bringing that...nothing I like better than tearing beast packs apart in combat

You think its a combat unit?????

Posted by: cool_conoly Feb 7 2014, 06:24 PM

QUOTE(ru486baby @ Feb 7 2014, 06:47 PM) *

You think its a combat unit?????


Its irrelevant, you cant stop me getting there

Posted by: Buddha Feb 7 2014, 06:35 PM

You don't get to win tournaments anymore Josh. Stay in VIC.

Posted by: Behemoth Feb 7 2014, 06:51 PM

QUOTE(4ndi @ Feb 7 2014, 07:01 PM) *

List sent, GK with triple Laindraider, bastion and Tau in the backfield muhahaha.


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