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post May 15 2018, 11:49 PM
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Planning on running a CE campaign that will kick off publicly around October time. For now, I will be playtesting the scenarios (there are 6) to hone my limited gaming skills. tongue.gif

Acknowledgement: the entire campaign was designed by a woman named Lisa, so all due credit to her and her permission to allow these games to continue to live on. The campaign files themselves are available from the Canvas Eagles website.

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First scenario is Fokker Scourge, a well-known moment of aerial warfare history when the Eindekkers made their presence known. Heavy Allies losses forced design improvements but not before the Germans had shot a lot of Allies planes down.

Will post batreps for each scenario played (solo, mind you).
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EDIT POST: 17 MAY
Updated the above batmap (forgot the balloons). The target are the balloons which the Allies have to destroy if possible. But to do so, they have to cross the German trenches, traverse open ground before hitting the German ack-ack positions and patrolling German fighters.

The list for the German planes is small but rare: Albatros C-I, Aviatix C-I, Fokker E-III (Eindekker), and the Taube. For the Allies, their list of planes to select from include: Avro 504, BE2b/c, Bristol Scout C, Caudron G3/G4, Morane Saulier L/N, Spad A2, Vickers FB5, and Voison.

Just by a quick look, this could be run as two separate flights - one British-led bombing run and the other, a French-inspired bomber group. The Germans have their first ever military aircraft - the Taube, and the first Albatros - the C1 version. Both are nothing in comparison to the Eindekker.

Some planes can be eliminated from the day missions while some work well at night - Avro 504 and the BE2c (both with Lewis mounted MGs). The French could probably run this as a daylight mission with their Voison bomber and the Caudron. The MSL and Spad A2 can provide escort perhaps?

Will attempt this first as a small solo mission - both day and then night. Then I will go for a big mission - both groups together.

The Allies enter the game within 3 hexes from the left (marked light red). This area also happens to be the German trench lines. So, the planes have to be careful not to be at Altitude 1 or 2 lest they get shot up by ground fire. The bombers then cross open ground before striking the light green area where the German aircraft will be deployed. There, they will attempt to locate and shoot down the two balloons and then escape back the way they entered. The area is peppered with AA guns. The patrolling German planes will add to the misery.

Batreps to follow once played. Cheers.

NOTE: These batreps will be solo games using my version of solo CE.
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EDIT POST: 17 MAY
For those wanting to participate, you're likely to need six planes: one plane per side in both Early and Late War plus two of your own preference for either period.

Example list might look like this:
Early War Allied - Avro 504 A.
Early War Central Powers - Fokker E-III (Eindekker).
Late War Allied - Sopwith Camel.
Late War Central Powers - Albatros D-III.
Bonus planes: Early War - Sopwith Triple. Late War - Fokker D-VII
Note: All these planes above are readily available commercially. If you want to go specifics, however, then you might have a bit of a problem locating many of the "uncommon ones" because they're not as popular or are no longer produced. But you can field the following "mixed list" if you have connections and are able to ask them nicely:
Early War Allied: Morane-Saulnier N
Early War Central Powers: Haberstadt D-II
Late War Allied: SE5a
Late War Central Powers: Fokker Dr-1
Bonus planes: Early War - Voison 3. Late War - Pfalz D-III

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post May 19 2018, 11:30 PM
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Batrep: 3 BE2cs attacking enemy balloons deep in their territory. They had to cross enemy trenchlines, no-man's land, and then work through heavy AA placements, and roving E-III patrols to target the two balloons (light blue hexes). 3 Red chit hits would down these puff balls. The English had twelve turns to do it. They made it in eleven. And eventually got home without any losses. Germans had a bad dice roll day losing three planes - two E-III and an Albatros C-I. Victory to the English. Will replay this using the French this time in a much larger force; and so will the defending German air patrols. Should prove to be a massacre. Cheers. A couple of pics from the game. Batrep on blogsite.

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Opening move

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One of the E-III is shot down when its tail was shot up by the rear gunner on one of the BE2cs

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Second E-III is downed by the English as they commence their successful attack on the balloons.

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The German pursuit is all over the show. In the confusion another German is downed when a lucky shot hits the fuel tank on the Albatros C-I and it explodes. The English are on fire! (pun intended).

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The pursuit is reaching a peak but not one that is fatal however. The German pursuit consists of an E-III and an Aviatik C-1a. Neither planes pose any serious threat as the English continue their tight flying which contributes to their eventual success.

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End of game. English exit the board intact. German pursuit can only rue the day they came up against Roger Fitch and co.

Entertaining solo game. Cheers. armata_PDT_34.gif



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post May 20 2018, 01:41 PM
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There is supposed to be a major rewrite (upgrade) of the rules to make it consistent throughout (the difference between the 2016 cheat sheet and the core ruleset for instance). But that talk, that hope, was heard of last year. What's happened since has been nothing to crow about. It's a shame as the ruleset does need a facelift. Hard to say what the CE people is doing to address the major complaints.

Some of these major complaints include fixing the Damage aspect, ie. it doesn't work as it should, rewriting the core ruleset to make it consistent with the current mode (the 2016 Quick Reference Sheet) that we use as the DS. Improving the aircraft profile sheets (correcting some obvious errors and including new aircraft) is another upgrade needed.

One of my complaints is more logistic than command - the very real lack of "other aircraft" availability here in Australia. It's possible to obtain many of them from overseas, but it tends to be a costly endeavour due to the exorbitant postage. Kudos to those who acquire their "other aircraft" from ebay and other auction sites. But local retailers offer a very limited range and they tend to disappear off the shelf quickly for some strange reason. biggrin.gif

I seriously doubt you are ever going to obtain an Aviatik C1a now or any other time in the future. And, frankly, why would you? Unless you are re-fighting a historical moment using the correct aircraft, no point in having a plane that not likely to see the tabletop any time soon.

What is presently available locally is often inconsistent in terms of supply. Retailers aren't likely to stock a items that don't sell in high volume. Simple business sense, I guess.

Scratch build is probably the last option if you're that desperate to field an Aviatik. Or convert to Wings of Glory in the hope it carries it. Their (WoG) greater availability of aircraft is a strong argument for switching to the scale. But there is some appeal with staying with 1/72 if you still prefer the build and play approach. Wings of Glory 1/144 scale offers the convenience of ready made and beautifully painted models. In the end, it comes down to preference.


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post May 20 2018, 05:46 PM
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What scale is this? Is it like the old game Blue Max? it used to have counters.

We made a larger scale version with Plastic models and a much larger Hex map.



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post May 20 2018, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(Blackhearts Reaver @ May 20 2018, 05:46 PM) *

What scale is this? Is it like the old game Blue Max? it used to have counters.

We made a larger scale version with Plastic models and a much larger Hex map.

Yep, it's from that same lot that produced Blue Max. Eric Hotz owns Canvas Eagles now. Canvas Eagles is played in 1/72 scale planes and 1/144 planes. There is another scale they list on their website but honestly this can go any scale from 1/35 to 1/600 if you want. Just need the planes.

I'm a recent arrival to the game and the blurb claims a 4 by 4 board for individual dogfights. Large scale game, as you point out, can go much larger. Just limited by numbers playing. Larger numbers allows for single player/single plane. Smaller numbers means single player/multiple planes.

Currently planning on running an open campaign starting October using Lisa's campaign. A small group of us are currently getting up to speed with the game for now.

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post May 24 2018, 02:22 AM
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Hi again. Skipped Scenario Two and jumped straight into Scenario Three - Bloody April 1917.

Some flight overviews of the latest solo game - a mammoth twenty-six plane effort. Taking me days to do this one because I am in no rush (it's solo after all). The pace is also allowing me to fine tune some of the solo rules.

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Turn Two. Germans are coloured grey, red, and black; Allies are blue, brown, and green. Gone with every plane (and some) from the scenario listing (that you're allowed to use).

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End of Turn Seven. Lots of trenches smoking meaning nothing's going according to overall game plan. Gotta love chaos.

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Happy to share the solo version I've created. Will provide a link shortly in case you're intrigued enough and lack a live opponent. armata_PDT_34.gif


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post May 24 2018, 11:09 PM
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Link to my solo adaptation of the CE game. I've also included my version of the current Damage Table/Chit format used in the game. I didn't like either versions and decided to make a simplified one. I'm a simple guy.

Solo adaptation

By all means leave comments - favourable or otherwise. Every bit helps. armata_PDT_37.gif

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