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post Nov 20 2017, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(Blackadder @ Nov 18 2017, 12:18 PM) *

... and the sloppiness of my mancave/workshop.



Sloppiness he says? Blimey, you should see the state of things when I'm fiddling with toy soldiers and terrain bits! armata_PDT_05.gif

...and even just the storage space for the same...

You sir, continue to serve as an inspiration for model building, and for keeping a tidy desk / workshop / mancave armata_PDT_10.gif

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post Nov 20 2017, 06:19 PM
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Beautiful attention to detail!

Amazing work as always smile.gif


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post Nov 21 2017, 01:04 PM
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Everytime I come and look at your stuff Blackadder, I am amazed at the precision and accuracy. I work with Plasticard and do alot of conversions and it takes a fair bit of work to get things to be how I want them to look. Sometimes it gets covered up. smile.gif

I love admiring your skill. Do you use alot of jigs, spacers and cutting braces etc or is it more a sanding and carving to finalise perfection?

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post Nov 22 2017, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(Blackhearts Reaver @ Nov 21 2017, 01:04 PM) *

...........................Do you use a lot of jigs, spacers and cutting braces etc or is it more a sanding and carving to finalize perfection?


I use three basic measuring tools. 12 and 18 inch combination square, palm size 30/60/ 90° & 45/45/90° triangles and a small 6 inch steel scale

https://cdn.mscdirect.com/global/images/Pro.../6738527-23.jpg

I frequently use bottle caps to make circles or a good draftsmans compass to draw a hard to find diameter.

Bottle caps are great in that you can superglue scrap plastic to the open end and sand away the excess to a perfect disk. The superglue forms a rather tenuous bond with the bottle cap plastic and the styrene so separating with a thin bladed utility knife is easy.

I buy my plastic in bulk 2 foot by 3 foot sheets in 0.015 0.030 & 0.040 inch thick sheets at a local industrial park wholesale plastic supply house. 0,4 0,75 & 1,0 MM respectively.

I have recently discovered styrene diffusing lenses for florescent lighting that are about 8,0 MM thick which while somewhat brittle make excellent bulk building material at a greatly reduced cost. I am using this waffle like material extensively throughout this current build. It also has the added benefit of supplying ready made precision squares to give square corners with a minimum of measuring and cutting.

I use a good utility knife

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/ima...0_AC_SS350_.jpg

for all my major cutting; pencil scribing a line, scoring the plastic with the knife carefully along the scribed line and then snapping the plastic. I DON'T USE SO CALLED CRAFT KNIVES (i.e. Xacto knives) FOR THIS; the blade is too thin, wobbly, and hard to control for major cutting.

I use almost exclusively #11 fine point chisel Xacto blade knives for starting small holes, cutting out interior holes and the fin tip for picking up rivets and small pieces. and and #18 chisel Xacto blade knives for chisel work. Of all the various Xacto blades I find only these useful.

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post Nov 23 2017, 11:04 AM
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Jeez What a Mess:

All the sub components are just locked in place with interlocking tabs and while I know where the pieces actually go, the stability of the structures is tenuous at best.

Below we see the inner levels decks 2 through 4 deck 1 being done earlier this Summer. Decks 3 and 4 frame the yoke and have yet to receive their floors.

https://i.imgur.com/yVbqA9Z.jpg
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I have not worked out how they will be removable and how the neck will intersect with the third deck flooring. Some sort of bull nosed staircase I imagine. It will all look rather techie and decadent as befitting a titan interior but I have plans for an altar structure with attendant priests as in the Warlord.

https://i.imgur.com/hJtQNPy.jpg
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Above we see looking down at deck 2 and the two angled walls that will support the yoke and underside of the superstructure deck again rather sparsely connected without glue or screws so it all appears quite a jumble at the moment.

https://i.imgur.com/nnHxaDO.jpg
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The side view looking rather cleaner.

https://i.imgur.com/fr57fNz.jpg
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With the superstructure deck reinstalled the whole thing begins to tie together (Note that the jaw has disconnected for the visor) but all the rest of the components locking into their respective locations with barely a millimeter discrepancy that I can measure. Much of the precision purely by luck I assure you.

https://i.imgur.com/zUVImBa.jpg
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And the right side view of this hodgepodge.



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post Nov 26 2017, 12:51 AM
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A Series Of Interlocking Components:

It took a bit of doing but all the major components lock together to go from this .........

https://i.imgur.com/I4QDhMm.jpg
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To this .......

https://i.imgur.com/S7OFsf2.jpg
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in about as much time as it takes (me) to type this. (Not being the world's fastest typist.)

https://i.imgur.com/0OHMIvq.jpg
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So the entire model thus far can be disassembled for painting, upgrading and repaired at a whim.

https://i.imgur.com/lBdAkHK.jpg
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Now that the superstructure deck support is locked into place I can continue with the interior with the intermediate deck roughed in in the immediate above view.

https://i.imgur.com/f9Ho6TC.jpg
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With the deck removed you can visualize the two story engineering compartment.

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post Nov 30 2017, 06:01 AM
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Desperation Is the Mother Of Invention:

I won't boor you with the details of how I made these plugs. The first view should be self explanatory

https://i.imgur.com/TlWNUhX.jpg
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Instead I'll boor you with the why.

I've got these two side supports that will ultimately hold up the tophamper

[BTW I weighed this beast this weekend and excluding the vise he weighs 12 pounds, (5.44311 Kilograms),(0.857143 stone), Twelve Pounds of STYRENE!]

Anyway that much weight will surely spread these walls especially since I will not be gluing them in place (I hope) so the problem is how do I lock them in place.

Once again the waffle light panel to the rescue.

https://i.imgur.com/N29ODWw.jpg
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I made plugs that will fit snugly into the waffle recesses.

https://i.imgur.com/heklFqn.jpg
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Naturally it would have been too much to expect that they would line up perfectly with the overhead deck so I attached a fudge factor plate to compensate for the misalignment. and glued the plug to the top of the side wall. (I won't go in to how exacting this was; especially for the first one biggrin.gif )

https://i.imgur.com/uhZpelq.jpg
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Three more to go and I'll display the finished assembly. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 1 2017, 12:43 AM
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Fallen Into Place:

The four aligning plugs installed.

https://i.imgur.com/rkcrhfD.jpg
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Sorry for what appears to be repetitive images but there are the subtlest differences that entailed a lot of work that I feel I must apprise anyone following this thread aware. The aligning of the upper deck is most important for subsequent structures otherwise the model will become lopsided and sloppy.

https://i.imgur.com/FGxgtbZ.jpg
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Note in particular the centering of the weapon yoke in the slot. Now that the sides are secure that arm is correctly brought to center.

https://i.imgur.com/NXLTpPz.jpg
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Now that the side panels are locked into place with the upper deck and the chest area I can proceed with the building of the interior and the rear of the titan.


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post Dec 1 2017, 12:56 PM
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I just showed my son this blog.

He said, "You could play a game of 40K inside it!" armata_PDT_37.gif


I love my son biggrin.gif


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post Dec 4 2017, 10:19 PM
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A Weekend's Effort:

Aside from my official duties I managed to find time to add some detail to this beast and attempt to refine a vexing discrepancy in my calculations. Note the adjustment of the cylinder trunnions.

https://i.imgur.com/uqAkjMb.jpg
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I still have to mount the magnets that will secure the piston end of the assemblies but I know I shall have to adjust the gap between the piston head and the armament yoke; hence the cutouts.

https://i.imgur.com/WwKrLCw.jpg
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I still question the necessity for these hydraulics as they corrupt the clean lines of the model but I'll install the for the time being just to remain true to the prototype. The work will not be in vain as these cylinders can easily be adapted for the legs or ankles.

https://i.imgur.com/bvr37S2.jpg
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post Dec 5 2017, 04:31 AM
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QUOTE(Fluffy05 @ Dec 1 2017, 12:56 PM) *

I just showed my son this blog.

He said, "You could play a game of 40K inside it!" armata_PDT_37.gif
I love my son biggrin.gif


My son said the same thing. Thanks for the reply.


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post Dec 6 2017, 10:39 AM
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Necromunda: control the Titan smile.gif


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post Dec 8 2017, 06:47 AM
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WhyLookLikeThis:

https://i.imgur.com/WwKrLCw.jpg
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When You.....Can Look.....Like This:

https://i.imgur.com/qO5Tq20.jpg
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I wasn't satisfied how the piston/snubbers/whatever, detracted from the sweeping elegance of the armament yoke yet rather than discard the whole concept I decided to play around a little.....

Aesthetically this looks better to me.

https://i.imgur.com/NJAn2og.jpg
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When you are going to hydraulic systems that serve no purpose, at least they should look good; Right? biggrin.gif


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Have you considered the possibility that the end hydraulic piston actual goes into the arm and moves something inside that circular housing.

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post Dec 10 2017, 12:51 AM
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It would be a bit more work but you could triangulate the 2 Pistons to a single point on the External shoulder/armpit in the middle? It would give you focusing/stabilizing lines and leave the external lines free and clear.

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post Dec 10 2017, 02:13 AM
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As the say'n goes. There seems a bit of controversy about my departure for the iconic 3D prototype but I think this looks much better.

https://i.imgur.com/jXTdCXw.jpg
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The side panels make more sense with this arrangement and it allows for a maintenance observation balcony that I think will add interest to the model plus the grander of the weapons mount yoke is undiminished.

https://i.imgur.com/KVnXAwb.jpg
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The dual actuators now have a purposeful appearance for what ever that may be.

https://i.imgur.com/FbDGRw4.jpg
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And disappear into the yoke to accomplish it.


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post Dec 11 2017, 11:30 AM
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A Man A Plan

Whom I kidding, it's all serendipity.......

I've worked long and hard to reach this point this evening but these six images make it worth it. Every thing is falling into place including the three story engineering compartment with it's 15 foot ceilings.

https://i.imgur.com/4dmRD2w.jpg
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The fusion reactor will take up two of those decks.

The lower deck will open onto the platform under the head for the Adeptus Mechanicus Priests to supervise the battle a hundred feet above the fray

https://i.imgur.com/kkZa3fT.jpg
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The upper balcony and promenade with egress through the blast doors to the cockpit

https://i.imgur.com/eKgx5FT
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Below another shot of the lower deck for scale

https://i.imgur.com/8KfEK7n.jpg
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The intermediate command deck where the tactical computers &etc will be displayed.

https://i.imgur.com/K5PU7Ah.jpg
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Finally an overall view of the three decks

https://i.imgur.com/mSlGEbX.jpg
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It's going to take a lot of bitz to clutter up all this space.


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The engineering deck really doesn't look all that big... until you put the space marine in there for scale. Damn but that is a BIG model! Awesome work!
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