I am now nearing one billion seconds of age and i will be collecting (i assume) for the rest of my life ... i am curious as to the largest army you people have seen. How many points was it? What army and how many models?
There is a brisbane guy with a massive well painted eldar army (titans shooting plasma into helldrakes etc) cant remember the link. He had shelves of flyers. and hundreds of jetbikes etc. aspects etc
Krefey has an entire Chapter of Space Marines, call that at least 1,000 models.
Shall we set the bar there and see if anyone can top that?
31.7 years huh?
Krefey's chapter: http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=62837&hl=lions
Morachi's impressive Eldar: http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=157684&hl=warhost
what are a billion seconds of age?
and regardless of what army you're talking about have you actually done the point math on it?
I never really understood people who got more than a "functional" army for a race. Like I get the have one of everything thing and the be able to put x on the table, but I don't get either of krefey or morachis collections.
Collecting is just plain fun... a 40,000 point army seems a nice number ☺
the thought of having an entire space marine chapter was pretty cool when I was thirteen
Impressive as these collections are, I think I'd be more impressed if this level of resources was piped into a "Specialist Game" of some sort. Warhammer Quest, Necromunda, Mordheim, Blood Bowl or Space Crusade with a complete collection of hundreds of painted miniatures would be awesome, and you wouldn't have to rely on your opponent having 60,000 points worth of army to use against you.
There's plenty of people who have *giant* collections of Epic especially. And Blood bowl.
I might try for my own Craftworld force ... probably take me another billion seconds of life... ah well ... tick tock!
(A billion seconds of age ... i am nearing it now ... i took notice of mathematical oddities within my age as i approached ten thousand days and nights of life)
Last time I bothered counting my Ork collection...it was at the 70,000 points...and yes i have used all of it ina game..Many moons ago i took the horde to my local GW where they had 6 tables all connected....I was one side a foot deep from edge to edge..ie 36 foot long and 1 foot deep of greenskins..since then i have gotten few more orks...He who dies with the most toys ...WINS
I dont have one big army.
I have from 4K -16K in each army. For every army(except the really new ones >> alwasy something new to get) Can field 3 of most things and 6 troops often.
EDIT: (heh I just looked at Moriachi's eldar list and i actually have 70-100% to his normal units (except the stormguardians and jetbikes & warlocks yikes). Just dont have the Warmachines section and FW subclans > only 1 revenant and less flyers/tanks mine are usually magnetised weapons rather than having 3 of each type.. and where he has 40 i only have 30...) So maybe I have more than I think... lol.
in about 700 million secs of collecting.
I'm currently fighting off the temptation to do 2mm 40k, orks and imperial. Don't tempt me, I don't think I can do a whole chapter. I really like finishing companies though.
My favourite thing is having a painted force that fits in an auspost box of some size. Something contained and complete and not too big.
Seriously much more satisfying that a sprawling collection that never ends.
Until I donated my 8000 points of DeathGuard and Nurgle Daemons to a mate of mine to help him get into 40K, I had over 150,000 points in my combined Dark Eldar, Sisters, Arbites, Orks, and Chaos Marine including a lot of Battle Companies. I now only have full battle companies for Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Iron Warriors, Thousand Sons (30K with Primarch and 40K), Night Lords and smaller forces for Black Legion, and Red Corsairs; I also have added Sisters of Silence (old ronin minis and new GW made ones, Custodes (old ronin minis, GW made new ones and Scribor); 4 Titans, and another 10 Super Heavy vehicles; And all the rest of the Daemons I kept.
My mate who was posted up in Darwin had more than me, with more Titans and Super Heavies than I have collected.
I estimate I have about 2500 to 3000 minis at the moment, just for 40K. However I also play and have large armies for Battletech, Warzone Resurrection, Dystopian Wars, Robotech/Zentradi, Doctor Who, Epic Armageddon, and a few other gaming systems.
Even I think my collection is small to some I have seen.
I am now starting to collect Epic. It is one of the smallest armies I have with around 50,000 to 60,000 points in 7 armies. Each one is between 8,000 and 11,000 points each. 2 of them are actually nearly fully painted (Dark Eldar and Vraks Renegades)
It's good knowing I'm not the only chronic hoarder around.
Ill be amongst your ranks as collecters in the 20's with my Eldar ... i plan to get some Astra Militarium too so i can literally play against myself for practise (i do this with chess already and despite what people say it is not impossible to do without favouring one side - tactical decisions are usually obvious)
"this is the best thing I could have done with all this money"
Largest I got with mine was my SM army loosely themed around the 501st legion (Vader's Fist, star wars thing). They were all painted. Not brilliantly, but they were ALL painted.
A full battle company. It could field the full 10 squads (with choice of special weapons for each squad that could take them - I had multiples of each sw in the collection, as well as multiple HW choices for each option.
Plus the Chief Libby, Chaplain (master of sanctity, Brother-Father Vader. "I find your lack of faith ... disturbing ... "), Command squad of veterans, choice of transports for EACH unit that could take one (So a drop pod and a rhino for each tac squad, etc). Assorted support and anti-armour vehicles (Vindicators (3), whirlwinds (3), Land Raiders (5).).
Then the 2 full 10 man units of terminators including sufficient weapon options to form fully equipped 5 man teams, and 2 10 man squads of scouts - 1 close range support, the other long range suppression.
It topped out at around 152 infantry and 33 vehicles before I stopped and walked away from the game.
It was basically the work of about 10 years to that point. I still have select vehicles and units from the army, but probably not enough to even play 2nd ed with these days. I never calculated the points value of it all.
Eldar Iyanden Army, All current models.
4 Support Platforms
1 Crimson Hunter
3 Fire Prisms
3 Wave Serpents
10 Swooping Hawks
10 Warp Spiders
5 Dark Reapers
20 Dire Avengers
6 Shining Spears
Triumvirate of Ynnead
3 Death Jesters
4 Sky Weavers
1 Star Weaver
1 Void Weaver
Avatar of Khaine
I dunno what its points would be now. Its all unassembled unpainted except for 30 Guardians and 2 wraithlords. Its my one day project.
Ah chromedog ... well you can always rebuild 😊
Maxo_Q ... that is a fine pile of minitures 😊
I have question - if i fill out my troop choices and still have points left - may i get more troop choices or need to fill up fast attack and heavy support? ... for a larger force that is (nothing but troop choices and my hq - is that legal?). I could use them as an "allied force" could i not?
Hypothetical - nothing but infantry squads for 3,000 Astra Militarum or nothing but Dire Avengers for Eldar (or Dark Reapers if old Beil-Tan choices rules are still covered?)
If you are going to play seriously/competitively I would suggest you get jetbikes, Wraithknight, (Warpspiders > require a little finesse), farseers and a few warlocks (some mounted on bikes). and then a bit of everything else.
If you look at the Biel tann aspect heavy list they are actually very good compared to what they used to be. All of the aspects are in 7th ed are impactful and actually quite nasty. The above units however are more suited to the 7th ed game play. Fast movement or incredibly tough with nasty guns or a combination. (Eldar jetbikes can turbo 48" in 1 turn if they don't shoot and can all carry skatter lasers or shurican cannons AND are scoring/objective secured... who was on those drugs when they wrote those rules....).
Most of the aspects (except Dark Reapers) will need to be in Wave serpents that are currently one of the few things that are a bit expensive points wise to make a list out of. A consequence from 6th ed where wave serpents were KING and you would see lists with 5-8 wave serpents... They could use their shield as a shooting weapon on top of their other weapons (OP armoured firepower that would then dump out units and was hard to kill.) 7th ed made WS less resilient and they are more expensive and the shield now does approximately what it is supposed to....
My collection is not huge, but it is significant.
I started to build an IG regiment, then then kind of became an Imperial Crusade effectively.
So over 600 IG infantry
Over 50 tanks
about 100 SM infantry
about 100 AdMech units
A Warlord in need of completing
Then a smaller Eldar force that is more vehicles than anything else.
I collect because I enjoy the modelling and its a fairly harmless hobby to horde plastic soldiers
Collecting a giant force of Minis is easy, but costly.
Painting them all is amazing.
USEING them all in a game is better.
The largest game I have ever seen (and played in) was played over two days in a school hall. (On the floor! None of this 6 tables stuff. ), we had a huge area... (Not sure, but it was big.)
There were three full companies of Marines, 1.5 companies of Terminators, a company or so of Imp guard. 2 or 3 Baneblades, a shadow sword, I think my ArmoursCast Warhound and Reaver were involved... but it was 25 years ago). There were also Spartans, Land's Raiders, Preds, Rhinos and any other vehicle we could get.
Facing them were a similar number of Chaos, Orks and Eldar (With a crashed hive fleet of 100+ Genestealers in there as well.)
Highlights were a 300" / turn jet bike race up the school corridor (About 60m long race) and the resulting collision roles for hitting the side of a Baneblade at 300". (Baneblade did not survive.)
I tried that once at a scout hall. WE finished 1 1/2 turns before we called it quits. Does make me wonder who fielding my entire chapter would go lol. But with Apoc templates etc, shouldn't take too long to clear a lot of the board
Hi lads, well yes the Dras'Volharr Warhost sits just over 105k and around 2300+ miniatures at present.
In the midst of building a display case to house it all with about 8.1 square meters of space... although I'm looking at getting some more shelves to boost that up a bit with some black melamine panels.
Still haven't really picked up the new Eldar stuff, or even so much as looked at the DE contingent which will add a good 10k to the numbers. Wanted to get the CWE/Harlies/Corsairs sorted out first before moving onto the other three (that includes Exodites).
Having a mortgage and kid, I have to keep my annual spend to 5k, which means another 3 years until its all fully painted and displayed. At least the spare bedroom is going to be freed up, if anyone stays they risk an avalanche of CWE killing them in their sleep at present.
Still have some Marines BNIB and about 15k of Nids to the side for educating the next gen in the ways of 40k.
105k. 1 army. All painted. Incredible!
I cant wait for the double spread White Dwarf will one day do on your collection.
Haha, GW wouldn't touch me with a 60 foot barge pole. I have way too many 3rd party, prototype and custom models in my collection that they'd be peeved about others seeing. It's bad enough that I've had some of their former sculptors do private custom commissions let alone flaunting them en mass haha.
All good though, that's why I have a blog
Good things come to those who wait haha. They're WIP, well some are. One was abandoned due to the quality. Had to fill the gaps somehow, and GW are a little on the slow side with some aspects.
I don't really mean to throw water on the toy soldier collecting admiration going on in this thread (hey, it's much better way to spend money than betting on greyhounds, as hundreds of people do each week), but I really think we're fooling ourselves.
In the longest bout of painting I did in my life, it took half of a summer holiday, and I ended up with about 16 really nicely painted miniatures (this was for Necromunda).
When I see people with armies of hundreds of models, I detect a severe imbalance of time versus money. Realistically, you're never going to get all that painted unless you're armed with a spraycan and very low standards of what counts as "painted", unless you're unemployed and have staggering amounts of time on your hands. Even if you do somehow get it all painted to a high standard, just how much gaming can you get in to justify the amounts of time and money spent? But that's the hobby, it's an end unto itself. The rules and game are just some addictive justification.
I think Games Workshop knows this all too well, and they sell hundreds of toy soldiers based on unattainable dreams and addictions. If we were sane, we'd all be playing skirmish wargames with just a handful of miniatures.
I have 13-14 armies and I have actually played all of them for sustained periods of time. For a good few years when I was playing at good tourneys I would tinker a list over a year and paint it. So at the end of a year I would have another army finished so say 1750+ all the alterations so usually 2200-2800 points by the end of the year and it was painted to an adequate tourney level. We won't talk about the other few thousand points waiting to be painted in crates until I come back to the army again.... It was 9 years before I got back to my Emperor's children and slanneshi daemons (but I did play 6 armies and several specialist lists in that 9 years. . I was never a painter but i could easily get 75-80% of most paint scores and did win a best painted at a 35 player tourney. ( I didn't ask questions .... I just grabbed that trophy and ran out of there before I was lynched funnily enough on the shelf of many trophies it is the one I point out.... it was the hardest to get.
EDIT: on a side note>> new players don't play a list and "adjust your gunsights" after the first game. give your list 4-8 games before you hit it with major unit changes. a few tweaks on equipment and the like sure but don't immediately swap out stuff until you give it a chance to perform.
I would recommend to all people in this hobby to at least explore all aspects of the hobby (painting, gaming, sportsmanship Organising (club and tournaments) at least at some point if you ae in it for some time. They all will teach you some skills that are fun and useful in other life area's. Over 20 years I have found it to be a most rewarding hobby more than any other hobby/sport I have been involved with.
From person gaming (to National masters), to painting at a much higher level than I started at, to being a better opponent, to coaching younger players to grow a local scene, to running tourneys, building terrain for shops and tourneys, to playing on State teams (for ATC), etc it was all great and I met a lot of like minded people. and made life long friends.
I dunno, the time I invest in chasing bargains to build armies is my downtime/switch brain off.
Monetary cost, well if your on here long enough youll see how often I trade. maybe 50% of retail after 20 years collecting.
Painting, one day Ill sit down and do all the armies Ive collected, to a high standard. But right now when its available and cheap to buy I get joy from the purchase and get to have fun "fantasy listing" and a little bargain bragging.
well I may not have the biggest army here, but they are all painted and generally to a pretty high level.
I have also seen quite a few other very large armies painted to excellent standards.
So, generalisations kind of don't work.
I know people with 1000 point armies and none of them are painted
unless you are expecting golden daemon standard for all models.
So well over 1000 models to this standard is not uncommon
we all do this for different reasons and in different ways.
Some collect for the sake of collecting
some to game
some to paint
some to weird out their friends and family
Well lads, spent the weekend unpacking boxes upon boxes... resorting, relabeling others etc...
The display case is coming along nicely. First phase of getting it up and bolted to the wall is done (60 plus screws rated at 30kg each with a pilot strip binding them together), lighting to go next and in a month the glass sliding doors to seal it all in from dust.
So far, a good chunk has been laid out... each shelf is 3.6m wide by 45cm deep. Still another two more half shelves to go taking it closer to 10m2 in storage space.
However... you get the idea...
Agreed, Krefey. It can get very costly and time consuming to do anything to a high level. Had to break down my lot into tiers - high quality for the HQ, above table top for anything that needed to pop at the squad level and table top for the rest. Vehicles luckily can get some really awesome effects through airbrushing which, even at a simple level, can come out looking ace. Of course, there are the odd vehicle that you want to have a high quality paint job just so you've got some nice rare standout pieces.
Currently I've got well over 30,000 points of very well painted models (so I've been told) from Death Korps to a soon ish to be finished 6th legion Horus Heresy army of around 7000 points when finished.
I think it's pretty safe to say that your armies are very well painted Eddie
Got the lights up last night, so figured I'd throw down a couple of shots so far as the case fills up and boxes are emptied from the move. I've done the math on the bases and what will fit, and I'm just hoping that its close as the full 105k fills up 0.6m2 shy of the 9m2 space.
Oh my.....sweet space
that looks cool, but isn't it a pain to have to repack them every time you want to go and game somewhere?
its an excellent display, but all mine live in their boxes to make travel easier....not that I take them anywhere very much.....hmmm glass shelves you say?
I haven't played since 2006, except the odd small game here and there its all just for display these days, so once they're all set up... that's how they will stay for some time.
Well, my job takes a lot of my time and now my family does as well. Really the value I get from it is the nostalgia sitting in the lounge looking over the collection which stems back to 1997 (and games going back years beyond that). I love reading about the hobby, seeing what people paint and watching games (or skimming battle reps).
On a side note, I was pretty saddened by the Eldar literature post 2nd Edition. There are a couple of good short stories in the Codexs, however the novels are... worse than the Twilight trillogy. They simply don't marry up well to the short stories at all.
As for cost, you would be surprised. Buying a lot of second hand miniatures over the years, or internationally at the right time (exchange rate wise) has helped immensely. Last estimate, the cost per miniature with shipping, painting and storage worked out significantly less than the RRP for each. Without the help of generous folks over the years, it wouldn't be anything like it is today in terms of scale or completeness.
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