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post Mar 16 2017, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(Morachi @ Mar 16 2017, 12:18 PM) *

Haha, GW wouldn't touch me with a 60 foot barge pole. I have way too many 3rd party, prototype and custom models in my collection that they'd be peeved about others seeing. It's bad enough that I've had some of their former sculptors do private custom commissions let alone flaunting them en mass haha.

All good though, that's why I have a blog wink.gif


Custom Commissions, I don't remember seeing them.
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post Mar 16 2017, 01:23 PM
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Good things come to those who wait haha. They're WIP, well some are. One was abandoned due to the quality. Had to fill the gaps somehow, and GW are a little on the slow side with some aspects.


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post Mar 16 2017, 02:46 PM
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I don't really mean to throw water on the toy soldier collecting admiration going on in this thread (hey, it's much better way to spend money than betting on greyhounds, as hundreds of people do each week), but I really think we're fooling ourselves.

In the longest bout of painting I did in my life, it took half of a summer holiday, and I ended up with about 16 really nicely painted miniatures (this was for Necromunda).

When I see people with armies of hundreds of models, I detect a severe imbalance of time versus money. Realistically, you're never going to get all that painted unless you're armed with a spraycan and very low standards of what counts as "painted", unless you're unemployed and have staggering amounts of time on your hands. Even if you do somehow get it all painted to a high standard, just how much gaming can you get in to justify the amounts of time and money spent? But that's the hobby, it's an end unto itself. The rules and game are just some addictive justification.

I think Games Workshop knows this all too well, and they sell hundreds of toy soldiers based on unattainable dreams and addictions. If we were sane, we'd all be playing skirmish wargames with just a handful of miniatures.

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post Mar 16 2017, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Benjaymun @ Mar 16 2017, 02:46 PM) *

I don't really mean to throw water on the toy soldier collecting admiration going on in this thread (hey, it's much better way to spend money than betting on greyhounds, as hundreds of people do each week), but I really think we're fooling ourselves.

In the longest bout of painting I did in my life, it took most of a summer, and I ended up with about 16 really nicely painted miniatures (this was for Necromunda).

When I see people with armies of hundreds of models, I detect a severe imbalance of time versus money. Realistically, you're never going to get all that painted unless you're armed with a spraycan and very low standards of what counts as "painted", unless you're unemployed and have staggering amounts of time on your hands. Even if you do somehow get it all painted to a high standard, just how much gaming can you get in to justify the amounts of time and money spent? But that's the hobby, it's an end unto itself. The rules and game are just some addictive justification.

I think Games Workshop knows this all too well, and they sell hundreds of toy soldiers based on unattainable dreams and addictions. If we were sane, we'd all be playing skirmish wargames with just a handful of miniatures.


I haven't played in a decade (properly). I enjoy the collection for what it is, nostalgia for the good times of my childhood when I first discovered the Eldar in December 1997. Played in tournaments for many years, hosted a few, mucked about with friends through different iterations etc.

Ultimately, I've spent the last 20 years, bit by bit having my Warhost assembled and painted. Over 60% of the miniatures are now fully done, with the remainder scheduled over the next three years.

I've been incredibly lucky with my purchases over the years - even calculating in painting/shipping/assembly costs, the total figures come out much cheaper than RRP. Some I've been given, simply to realise the full potential of such a diverse Warhost comprised of rare gems and throngs of each miniature edition.

Ultimately, everyone collects and does as they will for their own purpose... some to play, some to paint, some to collect or a mix of the above. At the end of the day, if its something that makes you happy and it isn't hurting your budget or the needs of your family (if you have one), then at least you've found a little slice of happiness in an otherwise fast paced, intense and sometimes insane world.


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post Mar 16 2017, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(Morachi @ Mar 16 2017, 02:54 PM) *
At the end of the day, if its something that makes you happy and it isn't hurting your budget or the needs of your family (if you have one), then at least you've found a little slice of happiness in an otherwise fast paced, intense and sometimes insane world.

Word. Tabletop gaming (wargames or RPGs), computer gaming, writing a novel or making music is where it's at, hobbywise, if you ask me. I feel sorry for people who don't understand this, and have what I consider to be boring hobbies like collecting camera lenses or playing poker machines. Now I have time on my hands, I'm going for "making music".

I think the happiest year of my life was my honours year, which was spent basically playing the online asteroids-like combat game Subspace. So much tactical and strategic depth. Stayed up all night for weeks on end playing that. Unfortunately no-one plays it anymore, and you need 60 to 80 or so opponents and allies playing in the arena for it to be worthwhile.

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post Mar 16 2017, 06:40 PM
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I have 13-14 armies and I have actually played all of them for sustained periods of time. For a good few years when I was playing at good tourneys I would tinker a list over a year and paint it. So at the end of a year I would have another army finished so say 1750+ all the alterations so usually 2200-2800 points by the end of the year and it was painted to an adequate tourney level. We won't talk about the other few thousand points waiting to be painted in crates until I come back to the army again.... It was 9 years before I got back to my Emperor's children and slanneshi daemons (but I did play 6 armies and several specialist lists in that 9 years. smile.gif . I was never a painter but i could easily get 75-80% of most paint scores and did win a best painted at a 35 player tourney. ( I didn't ask questions .... I just grabbed that trophy and ran out of there before I was lynched smile.gif funnily enough on the shelf of many trophies it is the one I point out.... it was the hardest to get.

EDIT: on a side note>> new players don't play a list and "adjust your gunsights" after the first game. give your list 4-8 games before you hit it with major unit changes. a few tweaks on equipment and the like sure but don't immediately swap out stuff until you give it a chance to perform. wink.gif

I would recommend to all people in this hobby to at least explore all aspects of the hobby (painting, gaming, sportsmanship Organising (club and tournaments) at least at some point if you ae in it for some time. They all will teach you some skills that are fun and useful in other life area's. Over 20 years I have found it to be a most rewarding hobby more than any other hobby/sport I have been involved with.

From person gaming (to National masters), to painting at a much higher level than I started at, to being a better opponent, to coaching younger players to grow a local scene, to running tourneys, building terrain for shops and tourneys, to playing on State teams (for ATC), etc it was all great and I met a lot of like minded people. and made life long friends. smile.gif

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post Mar 16 2017, 07:37 PM
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it was all great and i met a lot of like minded people. and made life long friends. smile.gif

This, too. I think that wargaming is the entirety of my brother's social life. It's a great way to meet new people.

I once heard it observed that women will just ring up each other purely to talk, whereas most men need an excuse to get together, thus the popularity of activities like golf. A man rings up a man and he'll want to know what he wants, LOL (unless it's family catching up).
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post Mar 17 2017, 02:17 AM
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I dunno, the time I invest in chasing bargains to build armies is my downtime/switch brain off.

Monetary cost, well if your on here long enough youll see how often I trade. maybe 50% of retail after 20 years collecting.

Painting, one day Ill sit down and do all the armies Ive collected, to a high standard. But right now when its available and cheap to buy I get joy from the purchase and get to have fun "fantasy listing" and a little bargain bragging.
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QUOTE(Benjaymun @ Mar 16 2017, 03:38 PM) *

Word. Tabletop gaming (wargames or RPGs), computer gaming, writing a novel or making music is where it's at, hobbywise, if you ask me. I feel sorry for people who don't understand this, and have what I consider to be boring hobbies like collecting camera lenses or playing poker machines.


I collect camera gear unsure.gif


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QUOTE(Caliginous @ Mar 17 2017, 03:33 PM) *

I collect camera gear unsure.gif

I'll get my coat. ("Taxi!")

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post Mar 20 2017, 02:06 PM
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well I may not have the biggest army here, but they are all painted and generally to a pretty high level.
I have also seen quite a few other very large armies painted to excellent standards.

So, generalisations kind of don't work.

I know people with 1000 point armies and none of them are painted

unless you are expecting golden daemon standard for all models.

So well over 1000 models to this standard is not uncommon

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post Mar 20 2017, 02:15 PM
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Well lads, spent the weekend unpacking boxes upon boxes... resorting, relabeling others etc...

The display case is coming along nicely. First phase of getting it up and bolted to the wall is done (60 plus screws rated at 30kg each with a pilot strip binding them together), lighting to go next and in a month the glass sliding doors to seal it all in from dust.

So far, a good chunk has been laid out... each shelf is 3.6m wide by 45cm deep. Still another two more half shelves to go taking it closer to 10m2 in storage space.

However... you get the idea...

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QUOTE(Stumphy @ Mar 20 2017, 03:06 PM) *

well I may not have the biggest army here, but they are all painted and generally to a pretty high level.
I have also seen quite a few other very large armies painted to excellent standards.

So, generalisations kind of don't work.

I know people with 1000 point armies and none of them are painted

unless you are expecting golden daemon standard for all models.

So well over 1000 models to this standard is not uncommon

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we all do this for different reasons and in different ways.
Some collect for the sake of collecting
some to game
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some to weird out their friends and family tongue.gif


I'd like to think my chapter is finished to a higher standard than that. Probably not much higher though, if I'm honest. But I did paint it all myself at least to what I feel is a slightly above average tabletop level smile.gif Painting them all to a high Golden Daemon-esque level would be crazy for a project that size.


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Agreed, Krefey. It can get very costly and time consuming to do anything to a high level. Had to break down my lot into tiers - high quality for the HQ, above table top for anything that needed to pop at the squad level and table top for the rest. Vehicles luckily can get some really awesome effects through airbrushing which, even at a simple level, can come out looking ace. Of course, there are the odd vehicle that you want to have a high quality paint job just so you've got some nice rare standout pieces.


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post Mar 28 2017, 09:45 PM
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Currently I've got well over 30,000 points of very well painted models (so I've been told) from Death Korps to a soon ish to be finished 6th legion Horus Heresy army of around 7000 points when finished.


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QUOTE(Darth Eddie @ Mar 28 2017, 10:45 PM) *

Currently I've got well over 30,000 points of very well painted models (so I've been told) from Death Korps to a soon ish to be finished 6th legion Horus Heresy army of around 7000 points when finished.


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I think it's pretty safe to say that your armies are very well painted Eddie


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post Apr 6 2017, 11:46 AM
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Got the lights up last night, so figured I'd throw down a couple of shots so far as the case fills up and boxes are emptied from the move. I've done the math on the bases and what will fit, and I'm just hoping that its close as the full 105k fills up 0.6m2 shy of the 9m2 space.

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Oh my.....sweet space biggrin.gif


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that looks cool, but isn't it a pain to have to repack them every time you want to go and game somewhere?

its an excellent display, but all mine live in their boxes to make travel easier....not that I take them anywhere very much.....hmmm glass shelves you say?


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