 So sick of people listing stuff as "pro painted" when it's clearly crap, pretty much just venting |
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| Auryn |
 Nov 18 2011, 05:45 AM
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Is anyone else sick of people on ebay, and elsewhere, listing their models as "pro painted" when it's clearly an average at best pain job?
I'm not really one for buying pre-painted miniatures. But I must admit, if I see something with a nice paint job at the right price, I'm not above snatching it up and parading it around a table. I am in no way claiming to be an awesome painter, not one of my models to date would be worthy of the title of a "pro paint job". It's just frustrating to get on ebay and see the crap that people list claiming it has been pro painted. Here is a couple of examples of models being peddled under the guise of being "pro painted" Dark Reapers Chaos Havoc squad These are by far not the worst examples I have seen. |
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| Master Chris |
Nov 18 2011, 06:37 AM
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Haters gonna hate.
Or is that painters gonna paint? -------------------- Everything that existed before I was born is irrelevant, everything that exists after I die is lucky.
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| alpha_and_omega |
Nov 18 2011, 07:18 AM
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Don't like it?
Don't buy it. Problem solved. Also, maybe to that person the models look pro compared to, say, their friends models? GW painted models to one may look pro painted, but to someone else may look amateurish when their standard is 9.5 or higher on Cool mini or not. This post has been edited by alpha_and_omega: Nov 18 2011, 07:18 AM -------------------- Soon I discovered that this rock thing was true, Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil.
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet. All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world. So there was only one thing I could do. Was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long Sleeping itself is ok, it is where I get to be a viking after all |
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| neil |
Nov 18 2011, 07:47 AM
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Paint quality is subjective.
Pro painted means someone has paid money for the paint job or painted the model with intention to sell it. Many professional painters offer 'tabletop quality' services. In other words, it's a meaningless label, i suggest you ignore it. -------------------- Please ban everyone.
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| EmpireGuard |
Nov 18 2011, 07:51 AM
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Yes I think it’s kind of lame, I mean if that was pro painted then I have one every single Golden daemon ever I’m so damn good.
It’s even funnier when they think it’s so good they list the models for a lot more than retail. I have seen “pro painted” models listed for more than 3 times the retail prize. @neil I wouldn’t even call those “table top” quality I would call them “three colour Min tournament requirement” quality This post has been edited by EmpireGuard: Nov 18 2011, 07:53 AM -------------------- Imperial Zoo at Altdorf
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| neil |
Nov 18 2011, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE(EmpireGuard @ Nov 18 2011, 08:21 AM)  @neil I wouldn’t even call those “table top” quality I would call them “three colour Min tournament requirement” quality There's more than 3 colours on them, and also some evidence of shading and drybrushing. -------------------- Please ban everyone.
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| Krefey |
Nov 18 2011, 08:24 AM
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I rmember the pro painted scarabs from way back when. They had a fingerprint in the greenstuff he'd used to build up the base
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| neil |
Nov 18 2011, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(Krefey @ Nov 18 2011, 08:54 AM) I rmember the pro painted scarabs from way back when. They had a fingerprint in the greenstuff he'd used to build up the base I remember buying lead Inquisition miniatures which had fingerprints cast into them..... -------------------- Please ban everyone.
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| glynaynsley |
Nov 18 2011, 08:39 AM
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Your defending it pretty hard there.
I really don't like it either as really there not very good under the "average painters" metric. As far as it being subjective, yes to a certain degree when its around the same level. Guaranteed though people would agree on an really well painted model, an average one and a fairly poor one. In my mind its a false claim and it annoys me. -------------------- I am amazing, la la la
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| Reunion-Round |
Nov 18 2011, 08:41 AM
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These topics are becoming as common as comp discussions...
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| EmpireGuard |
Nov 18 2011, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(glynaynsley @ Nov 18 2011, 09:39 AM) Your defending it pretty hard there. Maybe he's the one selling them  -------------------- Imperial Zoo at Altdorf
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| neil |
Nov 18 2011, 09:05 AM
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It's not very friendly to beginners to have threads bashing on bad painting.
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| Zidi |
Nov 18 2011, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(neil @ Nov 18 2011, 10:05 AM) It's not very friendly to beginners to have threads bashing on bad painting. Its not like hes tricking you into buying them. Hes clearly posting and displaying what your purchasing. You either like them, or you don't. |
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| EmpireGuard |
Nov 18 2011, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(neil @ Nov 18 2011, 10:05 AM) It's not very friendly to beginners to have threads bashing on bad painting. That’s Different if it was some one saying “I painted these, let me know what you think” then I would give some constructive criticism and congratulate them on a good start. Hell the first models I ever painted looked a lot like those ones shown probably not as good. But I never claimed that they were propainted, I know they weren’t great but they were a good start. -------------------- Imperial Zoo at Altdorf
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| Auryn |
Nov 18 2011, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(neil @ Nov 18 2011, 10:05 AM) It's not very friendly to beginners to have threads bashing on bad painting. Not trying to bash on anyone's painting by any means, but an honest representation of the quality of the paint job isn't to much to ask. As far as beginners go, everyone has to start somewhere. The first stuff I painted had so much paint on it you couldn't make out the their faces, but I never claimed that they were something they weren't. In all honesty my current stuff isn't a whole lot better. I guess If you want to get really technical about it, then you would assume the "pro painted" would mean that someone was actually paid to paint it, or a professional painter painted it. So i guess what I'm saying is that, if I paid someone to paint some models and they came back looking like the ones up top, i would be asking for my money back. |
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| Reunion-Round |
Nov 18 2011, 12:46 PM
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As mentioned, 'pro-painted' is subjective.
If you pay for something you are receiving a 'professional service'. IF you commissiuon an army, no matter how poor it is, it could be considered 'por painted'. Not saying I agree with the term applying, but it does. -------------------- Math-hammer requires a level of free thinking deemed unfitting for a true, loyal Guardsmen; ignorance is your shield! 40k Armies for sale |
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| Chaplain_Fortis |
Nov 18 2011, 12:53 PM
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If this is a large problem in your life than you are relatively lucky.
I got 99 problems but people mislabeling pro-painted lots on ebay ain't one. -------------------- "shirty, the slightly aggressive bear"
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| tintaman |
Nov 18 2011, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(Chaplain_Fortis @ Nov 18 2011, 01:53 PM) I got 99 problems but people mislabeling pro-painted lots on ebay ain't one.  Sigged.-------------------- QUOTE(Chaplain_Fortis @ Nov 18 2011, 01:53 PM) I got 99 problems but people mislabeling pro-painted lots on ebay ain't one. QUOTE(Zordana @ Feb 15 2012, 07:35 PM) A pile of steaming sh1t would be good with bacon. Just sayin. QUOTE(Mearschiermernwalt @ Sep 26 2012, 09:40 PM) can you give me undeniable proof that Obama is not a lizard person? |
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| Auryn |
Nov 18 2011, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(Chaplain_Fortis @ Nov 18 2011, 01:53 PM) If this is a large problem in your life than you are relatively lucky. I got 99 problems but people mislabeling pro-painted lots on ebay ain't one. ha ha... yeah maybe I have to much spare time |
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| Yaleling |
Nov 19 2011, 09:12 AM
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Nah, I get you Auryn. It irks me too. Partly because I'm a bit of a pedant, but more so as it devalues the really beautiful models that occasionally come up for auction.
And since I can't think of anything sensible to fix it, I'm happy enough to default to letting vendors set what prices they like and buyers can make their own choices. (Since no child slave labour is used in painting these (although it sure looks like it often enough! ), and since the market isn't being gouged I'm cool with doing nothing but having the odd whinge about it too.)This post has been edited by Yaleling: Nov 19 2011, 09:13 AM -------------------- My Tyranid album.
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