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post Nov 4 2014, 08:51 AM
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http://arc40k.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/...YERPACK2015.pdf


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post Nov 4 2014, 07:05 PM
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Just wondering, I'm not sure if this has been answered or not, but, can a player run an imperial knight army?


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post Nov 4 2014, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(jimjimjimmyjim @ Nov 4 2014, 08:05 PM) *

Just wondering, I'm not sure if this has been answered or not, but, can a player run an imperial knight army?

Yes. If you run Knights and no allies (that means playing short points) you also pick up the Arc Forged 10 bonus points..........which you might need.


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post Nov 4 2014, 10:22 PM
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I was under the impression that knights were a formation. But that's fine happy to be wrong.

I was just checking as I know someone whose planning on running them... :-/


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post Nov 4 2014, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(jimjimjimmyjim @ Nov 4 2014, 11:22 PM) *

I was under the impression that knights were a formation. But that's fine happy to be wrong.

I was just checking as I know someone whose planning on running them... :-/

No they have their own codex and Force Org so are legit (though anyone running them probably be lucky to get a 1 for comp from the judges). Your probably thinking of the Adamantine Lance(?) Formation which consists of 3 Knights minimum


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post Nov 4 2014, 11:18 PM
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Yes I believe I was.

From what the guy tells me is his hoping to score max points in sports, theme, battle and painting.

From what I can tell he seems be doing this quite well.

And although sports is not meant to reflect army selection I'm concerned some ppl may add some of their own bias into it :-/ even tho he is 200pts down (assuming he doesn't choose to take allies, which by the look of the theme he is, tho he doesn't wish to confirm that to me...yet! Tho he may take a bastion to hide behind...I can't be sure.



In any case this year I'm hoping to take a list that's customisable enough, so that just incase I match up against him I can potentially compete with him, while other lists I can tone it down a bit smile.gif


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post Nov 4 2014, 11:34 PM
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Can't have a bastion.

There is a bunch of stuff you any take. One of those being the entire stronghold assault book Jim.


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post Nov 5 2014, 12:32 AM
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But it says in the +10 arc points list that you can have 1 fortification.

I assumed the stronghold book was just banning the power combos found in the book...?


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Entire Stronghold Assault, and all fortifications in it, are banned. If a fortification was found in a codex, then you could take it.

Also, if people decided that taking a balls-to-the-wall list was unsportmanlike, and gave lower sports scores because of that, then there's not much we can (or would want to) do about it.


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post Nov 5 2014, 12:18 PM
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I would put it to the TO's that they should take some responsibilty and reject the list instead of just comping it 0.

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post Nov 5 2014, 12:56 PM
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I would request that too.

Generally speaking a list that gets a 1 or a 0 ought to likely have a resubmit request.

I'm certainly not saying that players shouldn't run knight lists as there are weaker builds available for knights. But I would consider a 1 even a high score for knights.


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No idea how pissed off I am with my sister at the moment. Her wedding has been set for the Sunday of Arc. So im now no longer able to attend Arc!



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post Nov 5 2014, 01:39 PM
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TM wrong answer tell your sister to elope. ohmy.gif

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post Nov 5 2014, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(jimjimjimmyjim @ Nov 5 2014, 01:32 AM) *

But it says in the +10 arc points list that you can have 1 fortification.

I assumed the stronghold book was just banning the power combos found in the book...?

It's not paddle comp. They aren't banning combos. They have denied using books and certain things. Much like eastcon did.

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No idea how pissed off I am with my sister at the moment. Her wedding has been set for the Sunday of Arc. So im now no longer able to attend Arc!

Hire & train a stunt double. It works for me.


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QUOTE(Turbo_mmx @ Nov 5 2014, 01:56 PM) *

No idea how pissed off I am with my sister at the moment. Her wedding has been set for the Sunday of Arc. So im now no longer able to attend Arc!

You have til now and then to do something about this!

But seriously, I know a guy who post pones his wedding by a day so he could go to conquest!

QUOTE(Durkah @ Nov 5 2014, 02:48 PM) *

It's not paddle comp. They aren't banning combos. They have denied using books and certain things. Much like eastcon did.

What's paddlecomp got to do with this? I don't follow your reasoning O.o


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QUOTE(jimjimjimmyjim @ Nov 5 2014, 10:26 PM) *

You have til now and then to do something about this!

But seriously, I know a guy who post pones his wedding by a day so he could go to conquest!
What's paddlecomp got to do with this? I don't follow your reasoning O.o

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But it says in the +10 arc points list that you can have 1 fortification.

I assumed the stronghold book was just banning the power combos found in the book...?


It was in response to this? You said quite clearly, you thought they were banning combos. Thats what paddle comp does. I said it was not paddle comp.

Is this so hard to follow?


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post Nov 5 2014, 09:40 PM
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But I made no reference to paddlecomp, the idea didnt even enter my mind! Mentioning it was a construct of your imagination... What do I have to do with this?

The only part I was confused with, is they offered you the ability to take 1 fortification but then out right banned the ability to take any fortifications, so I assumed they ment no options like void shields, etc...

Tho its unfortunate as I was building myself a themed ADL. But that's cool it will go on the back burner, and I will use it for some other event.


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QUOTE(jimjimjimmyjim @ Nov 5 2014, 10:40 PM) *

But I made no reference to paddlecomp, the idea didnt even enter my mind! Mentioning it was a construct of your imagination... What do I have to do with this?

The only part I was confused with, is they offered you the ability to take 1 fortification but then out right banned the ability to take any fortifications, so I assumed they ment no options like void shields, etc...

Tho its unfortunate as I was building myself a themed ADL. But that's cool it will go on the back burner, and I will use it for some other event.


It actually says in the playerpack that you can use it for your display board. Like the bastion/adl/fortress etc.

Nevermind. This is all quite clearly over someones head.


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post Nov 5 2014, 09:46 PM
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Display board isn't part of your army at all. It doesn't matter whats on your display board.

I suggest next time you ask questions before drawing your own conclusions...


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QUOTE(jimjimjimmyjim @ Nov 5 2014, 10:46 PM) *

Display board isn't part of your army at all. It doesn't matter whats on your display board.

I suggest next time you ask questions before drawing your own conclusions...

I made a comparison. I mentioned paddle comp. Not you. I did. I compared what you thought Arc was doing with what paddle comp does. With banning combos. Arc simply banned the book. Note, they haven't banned invis. That's a combo. So is 100 other things in 40k. They haven't banned those combos.

Paddle comp bans some combos. Has banned use of void shields, stompas, etc etc. Combos that can be considered broken. They allow books, but ban combos in them. Which is what I was getting at. It seemed like you thought arc was doing that same because you thought even though Stronghold assault was banned you could take a bastion. Because it said 0-1 fortifications.


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