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Da Smas
post Mar 28 2017, 06:04 AM
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Hey guys,

So with matched play now the main way I've seen AoS played ( say in stores) my mates and I have decided to give it a whirl. Background were old time fantasy and and 40k players who were very much on the hate bangwagon when it got released.

So far the game has been allot of fun. Now it's no Whfb in terms of its tactical depth sure but that doesn't mean it's bad either. I've had quite a blast the half a dozen or so games I've played. It's taking some time to adjust to some of the rules but otherwise the points seek relatively well balanced ( with the exception I think of one faction which ARE getting a pts drop ).

So I do reccomend trying it as long as you go in knowing that it's a fundamentally different game to Whfb.


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post Mar 28 2017, 07:10 AM
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Good to hear that you are enjoying it. The tactical aspect of manoeuvring from 8th has changed for sure, I think it still very much matters where you place your units just not how you do so.

Generally I think most gamers would enjoy the new Warhammer, it is more that for some people it was too much of a change.


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post Mar 28 2017, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE(mkragh @ Mar 28 2017, 07:10 AM) *

Generally I think most gamers would enjoy the new Warhammer, it is more that for some people it was too much of a change.


This.

Too much change. Those heavily invested in WHFB want that in a game. Too much time and effort to move to another system.

It's a shame there's division. The day AFL and NRL end, we will be unstoppable in Rugby Union. The same thing goes for 9th age (but everyone wants their system to win). I reckon there's a critical mass. We have enough gamers - but split across too many systems. Wish we could get it together again because the days of 100 player tournaments were sweet!


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post Mar 28 2017, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(Jimbo81 @ Mar 28 2017, 08:52 AM) *

Too much change. Those heavily invested in WHFB want that in a game. Too much time and effort to move to another system.


Well, if you want ranks and flanks, AOS is never going to be your system. It is nonetheless a good game; but it definitely won't be for everyone who enjoyed what WHFB was.

As far as moving to another system goes, well, I guess that's happened for everyone who was invested in WHFB, no? I know there's a few people who still play 8th, but for almost everyone else, they've had to move to something new and different.
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post Mar 28 2017, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(kthx @ Mar 28 2017, 08:31 AM) *

Well, if you want ranks and flanks, AOS is never going to be your system. It is nonetheless a good game; but it definitely won't be for everyone who enjoyed what WHFB was.

As far as moving to another system goes, well, I guess that's happened for everyone who was invested in WHFB, no? I know there's a few people who still play 8th, but for almost everyone else, they've had to move to something new and different.

9th age is business as usual - just a more balanced WHFB. Everything is toned down - not rocket hammer that was the end of 8th where one spell won you the game or one cannon shot - 10" from the back of your base mate = take the model off.


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post Mar 28 2017, 09:07 AM
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We still play 8th ed and aos. They are just different games.


I also think aos would have been waaaay more popular of the bat if pts were in from the start ...

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post Mar 28 2017, 09:43 AM
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For me there are really only two things that matters; are the models any good and is the game fun to play.

Which leads back to Mr Smas's point, the AoS is really fun so it is worth playing even if the rules are different.


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post Mar 28 2017, 09:48 AM
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can't shelf 5 armies @ 5k+ points though. It's never going to happen.


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post Mar 28 2017, 10:01 AM
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For me it was a good opportunity to bail on the ridiculous prices GW is charging. I loved 8th ed, and really enjoyed the tournament scene. I have nothing against AoS, but it doesn't have the depth 8th did, basically it just doesn't grab me enough to bother getting right into it.

I'll probably have a go at KoW soon, but I'm enjoying X-Wing and Bushido right now, and have a Bolt Action force that needs painting smile.gif

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post Mar 28 2017, 11:30 AM
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Initially the newer releases, such as the Stormcast Eternals ad Khorne Bloodbound seem vastly more powerful then the old WFB armies, but after playing quite a few games I spent the night studying the order book and legacy scrolls and there are some really interesting combos that I want to try out!

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post Mar 28 2017, 12:02 PM
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I'm enjoying the game more for the modelling than anything else.

Fantasy models look great on round bases, and spread out so you can see the effort that has been put into each individual guy. I've been digging up (and seeking out second hand) the old models and I'm having a lot of fun painting the old metal models. My 1994 Prince Imrik just arrived and he's my next project!

Power creep is already a bit of a thing, but it's not so bad if you just stick with the Grand Alliances rather than delving into the battle tomes.
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post Mar 28 2017, 12:04 PM
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I've been playing alot of AoS recently (Stormcast initially; now branching out into Dwarves.

It is suprisengly a tactical game that is alot of fun. It does encourage combos and the objective rather than just beating up the opponent as even if you table your opponent; if your opponent has more objective points than you, then you will lose.

The missions are interesting and the game is quite dynamic. Many times Ive seen a person turn the game around as they got a double turn.

Magic is toned down considerably (although Tzeentch still does dominate which is appropiate.)

The flexibility of army construction can lead to some quite diverse, but fully themed armies (although that has drawbacks in the case of Skaven/Chaos team ups.) However as new books come out; there will be greater incentive to keep to a 'pure' army.

The Legacy scrolls I like as you can still play with the Warhammer Fantasy units and Characters of yesteryear going up against (or teaming up with) the new stuff.

It also just seems alot more free flowing in relation to 8th ed and 40K (to the point; Id actually be enthused for 40K to take on some AoS elements.)


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post Mar 28 2017, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(Jimbo81 @ Mar 28 2017, 10:52 AM) *




It's a shame there's division. The day AFL and NRL end, we will be unstoppable in Rugby Union.


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post Mar 28 2017, 01:20 PM
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