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post Nov 4 2017, 02:44 AM
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OMG

Blackadder is fickle but Oh My God this is something I have to emulate. I just wish I knew who the artist is and if he has any other views of this machine. I was browsing tumbler for ideas and came across this no nonsense Emperor Titan that I am afraid makes mine look rather toylike. there is no other words for it.

https://i.imgur.com/07c2jX2.jpg
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The massiveness of the outriggers on either side of the head, the overall solidness of the outriggers, thighs, and lower legs plus the realism of the superstructure and upper works is astounding.

In an attempt to enhance the detail I brightened the image and increased the contrast.

https://i.imgur.com/Aqhlq7m.jpg
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This has given me a whole new way to proceed on this construction borrowing liberally from both authors. But look at those shoulders and those guns. Truly the Machine God has been brought to life.



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post Nov 6 2017, 05:40 AM
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Can't Get No......

Satisfaction.

On rethinking this project I find I was in error putting Cathedral parts in what ostensibly was the engineering area. We need some techie looking cryptic machinery instead of monastic facades

https://i.imgur.com/qrgPqfi.jpg
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So out with the old and in with the new.

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This may work out and it ties the overhead yoke to the chest plate structures neatly.

https://i.imgur.com/V3pMz2a.jpg
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I may also have room for a maintenance catwalk (I do like catwalks)

https://i.imgur.com/KjZFQPV.jpg
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This design will give me more creative options when I tie in the rear exhaust structures as well.


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post Nov 7 2017, 01:27 AM
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3D Analog Modeling:

I love this stuff. This grid material is so relatively cheap and so versatile that it is rapidly becoming my basic building platform.

https://i.imgur.com/jugJgeE.jpg
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Anyway I shall be using these angled constitutions for the 3 floors of engineering so I am considering gluing them in place.

https://i.imgur.com/Yo4AcLp.jpg
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The positioning of these panels is just about perfect as if the Deus Mechanicus were guiding my hand.............

https://i.imgur.com/uohMq6H.jpg
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I now can reconsider adding the spurious hydraulic cylinders after all; Omnissiah be praised.

https://i.imgur.com/TOyNVBi.jpg
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Now I just have to rationalize it's purpose????


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post Nov 7 2017, 06:55 AM
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weapon stabalizer /tracking device perhaps
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post Nov 7 2017, 10:28 AM
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Attempting to rationalise a spurious hydraulic cylinder on a 50 meter walking cathedral of death? That way madness lies.

'cos it looks cool" should suffice.

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post Nov 7 2017, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(Mousemuffins @ Nov 7 2017, 10:28 AM) *

Attempting to rationalise a spurious hydraulic cylinder on a 50 meter walking cathedral of death? That way madness lies.

'cos it looks cool" should suffice.
According to my calculations my Warlord tops out at about 50 meters. (51.2 to be precise) This monster I estimate will top out between 70 to 80 meters.

Just sayin' wink.gif

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post Nov 7 2017, 11:06 AM
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Part of the Stab system that im assuming a Titan would have.


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QUOTE(Blackadder @ Nov 7 2017, 12:05 PM) *

According to my calculations my Warlord tops out at about 50 meters. (51.2 to be precise) This monster I estimate will top out between 70 to 80 meters.

Just sayin' wink.gif

Thanks for the reply.


Ah. Well as long as I go with the ridiculous propensity for folks to insist on measuring "scale" to the eyeballs of miniatures, we are all good. armata_PDT_11.gif
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QUOTE(Blackadder @ Nov 7 2017, 02:27 AM) *

3D Analog Modeling:

I love this stuff. This grid material is so relatively cheap and so versatile that it is rapidly becoming my basic building platform.

https://i.imgur.com/jugJgeE.jpg
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I recognize the video in the background tongue.gif I've recently followed that tutorial lol


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QUOTE(Krefey @ Nov 7 2017, 11:29 AM) *

I recognize the video in the background tongue.gif I've recently followed that tutorial lol


I'm going to try my hand at 3D modeling since I just discovered you can render an internet image to a 3D projection. The problem is as I read it is you still have to do the work instead of the computer recognizing the contours and assigning a wire frame to the image. Fah! I guess that is too much to expect for 'free' Still it is something I always wanted to dabble in but for some reason cannot find the time.



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post Nov 8 2017, 07:07 AM
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Thanks for the replies.....

Back On Track:

Things are looking up now that I am back on track.

Below we se the first of eight trunnion mounts in place ready to receive the cylinders and piston rod ends with what I hope will be sufficiently robust to stand the torque to which they will be subjected (In the real world).
https://i.imgur.com/zpFncXW.jpg
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Having worked around commercial aircraft for a good portion of my adult life one of the things I find in error about many of these Titan scrachbuilds is the lack of appreciating the forces imposed on the hydraulic actuators.....

https://i.imgur.com/egRe4Wo.jpg
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The Boeing 747 in particular with it's four robust main landing gear filled me with awe on first seeing the tremendous machined components carved out of titanium ingots with their almost organic contours. The structures mimicking some antediluvian monster's skeleton.


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post Nov 10 2017, 02:07 AM
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Obsessive Compulsive Roll:

"You snooze you lose." as the saying goes. Last night while watching youtube and reading science articles I lost myself in autonomic reflex mode. Low and behold this morning I awoke to find my output was far greater than I thought.

https://i.imgur.com/VyhVIgu.jpg
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Apparently I quadrupled my work in a night doing what would ostensibly 'by rote.' My mother was capable of this absentminded production as well. She could knit an afghan blanket whilst watching TV and be completely oblivious to the process.

Anyway the result seen here is a small portion of the entire Titan but eventually would have had to have been done and I'm glad it is but it's unnerving to have no memory of the process.

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Elves Maybe? Umpa-Lumpas?


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this is so fkkn cool


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post Nov 10 2017, 08:56 PM
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Iv'e been watching and liking your threads for years Blackadder,
and my guilt has finally caught up with me...

Time to encourage/applaud armata_PDT_37.gif

I did "Paint Judge" stuff for a number of years at a certain AUS tournamant,
and your stuff absolutely rocks!

Please keep us updated, even though the replies may be few..

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post Nov 11 2017, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(Uncle_Fester @ Nov 10 2017, 08:56 PM) *

Iv'e been watching and liking your threads for years Blackadder,
and my guilt has finally caught up with me...

Time to encourage/applaud armata_PDT_37.gif

I did "Paint Judge" stuff for a number of years at a certain AUS tournamant,
and your stuff absolutely rocks!

Please keep us updated, even though the replies may be few..

Kind Regards


Welcome aboard,

Really, I always thought my painting sucked. My problem is I can't commit to a theme/chapter. Seriously could you see my Warlord painted with a yellow head?

WarhammerAU is one of the original forums (Forii?) I posted on and carried through to the present. It's hard to realize I've only been scratch building for eight years; it seems like forever.



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post Nov 12 2017, 07:16 AM
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Weapons Mount Detail; Now It Can Be Explained:

Now that I have the Engineering levels side walls complete I can proceed with the yoke mounts with the hydraulic cylinder attach points.

https://i.imgur.com/uiO8LM0.jpg
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I am missing something on the detail as it appears the attach points have a circular rack and pinion system that allows the weapons to rotate as the yoke arm is raised and lowered. This came to me last night as I studied the drawing for the umpteenth time where it all came clear and the hydraulic system while seemingly unnecessary does have a purpose.

https://i.imgur.com/oclY04e.jpg
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Hidden beneath the deck above the yoke must have an second hinge point that allows it to be raised and lowered by the hydraulic cylinders. The necessity for which or what ever reason I cannot fathom but it does explain much of the detail in the 3D image.

https://i.imgur.com/TOyNVBi.jpg
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Elevating and lowering the main weapons say a few meters cannot make that much difference when they are mounted 30 to 40 meters off the ground to my mind but the artist included it in his design and so shall I but I'll eschew the capacity of movement on my model.

It does make for some interesting detail and detail is what 'tis all about when you come down to it. biggrin.gif


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SARP Stabilized Advanced Remote Weapon Platform;

As we approach the main armament mount ( A bit earlier than I intended. It would be a good idea to make sure the the 'guns' clear the hip joints.) there has been some speculation as to the functionality of the yoke arm hydraulic system.

I did some research into 'SARP Stabilized Advanced Remote Weapon Platform' and found some interesting tidbits.

First of all the SARP appears to be a linear system i.e. in line with the gun barrel

Linear Elevation/Stabilization Drive:
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so this eliminates the hydraulics as a gyroscopic stabilizer as the arm is perpendicular to the barrels besides raising the whole arm is much too massive an undertaking for something as sensitive as ground affect stablization. The hydraulics of that size could not respond quick enough.

Second there has been some criticism of the trunnion mount of the main gun. Accidentally or purposefully the author's (Joazzz) trunnion mount works well with the stabilizer system:

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albeit sufficiently built up to Emperor Titan scale.
and so we're back to the intended purpose of the Hydraulic actuated arm.

I have really got to get a life. biggrin.gif


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Still say some sort of Stabilizer system.


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