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post Oct 22 2016, 01:41 PM
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FoW v4 released March 2017

The v4 rulebook and the new El Alamein box set will be available early March 2017. The new Desert Rats and Afrika Korps intelligence briefings and box sets will be available by the end of March. Additionally there will be two free rule books to allow you to play EW and LW under v4.

There is new starter set "El Alamien" replaces the old Open Fire box set. This has a mini-rulebook, one Panzer IV, one Panzer III, one Grant and two Crusader.

There will also be separate British and German box sets, each containing 8 tanks, 2 AT guns and a mini-rulebook.

The initial books will be "8th Army" and "Desert Rats", with Italians and US to be released later. There will be unit cards for the units in the new books, and the intention is that eventually all units will have unit cards.



For details of the rule changes, refer to the third post of this thread.


Events of interest to local players

Cancon
27th - 29th Jan, 2017
Exhibition Park, Canberra
4 different Flames of War WW2 events: EW (1550 pts), LW (1625 pts), Night LW (800 pts) and MW War in the Desert Campaign (1250 pts).
17 players EW, 22 players LW, 11 players Night LW, 30 players TY


Sabre
11 - 12th Mar, 2017
Mega Games, Penrith
1625 pts Late War
18 players


MOAB
30th Sep - 2nd Oct, 2017
Sylvania Heights Community and Youth Club
Box Road, Sylvania. NSW 2224. Australia.
80/100 pts Mid War
10 players


Sydney Mid War Grand Tournament
2nd - 3rd Dec, 2017
Hall of Heroes, 560 Queen Street, Campbelltown, NSW, 2560
80 pts Mid War + 10 pts cards
5 players


Win an Army
9th Dec, 2017
Rebel Outpost
Unit 3, 12 Donaldson St, Wyong, NSW
80 pts Mid War + 10 pts cards
4 players


I will update the list as I become aware of events.

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Mark C

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(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
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post Oct 27 2016, 03:22 PM
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Behind Enemy Lines podcast FlamesCon 2016 - A Photo Journey has some sneak peeks from Battlefront of the new Mid-War plastics. These are rapid prototypes so the finishing touches havent been added yet.

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(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
(Saga) Vikings

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post Dec 12 2016, 11:15 AM
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Changes for Flames of War v4

WWPD Episodes 9 interviewed Peter Simunovich of Battlefront (0:24 - 1:45) about Flames of War v4. A summary of the changes is below.

Planning for a late March/early April 2017 launch.
There will be a free rulebook, with multiple ways to get it.
Rules 110 pages (the page count may change).
4th ed is not Team Yankee, but is less complex than v3.
4th ed should play slightly faster. Slightly simpler. Smoother and better.

Complexity of recce and other stuff is reduced.
Recce takes a beating. Recce is the thing most negatively changed in v4

Artillery is no longer so effective against tanks, but better against infantry.
Artillery - range in on a point.
Once ranged in stay ranged in, even without staff team. Even mortars.
Once ranged in can re-roll misses against infantry and guns.

Assaults - simplified a bit. Not too much different.

Morale in v4 a lot like TY. Good spirits is two tank or gun teams, or 3 infantry teams.
Once in poor spirits need to take take morale check every turn

Air: EW/LW no change. MW is 1 plane = 1 plane. Max of 2 planes in MW.
If plane shot down gone forever. Planes come on a roll of 4 rather than 5.

6 missions. 4 missions added (3 never seen before). Discussion - Total 9 missions
Reserves. Have to have at least 40% of points off the table (rather than number of units off table).
Scoring changes to a 8-1 system to encourage aggressive play. Still on unit basis rather than % points.


Mid-War will be redone.
MW army building is different. Can take allies. Easier to run multiple companies.
MW is 100 pts lists. Removing all the 5 pts options.
Unit cards will be used to provide unit stats
Eg. Midwar rules will not have movement table - it will be on the unit card
Two new army books - British and German in the desert (North Africa), then Italy later.
US will be a later book.
New plastic tanks. Infantry staying in metal.
New starter set (both sides) plus will also be two army boxes
MW card pack for Pacific


EW/LW will have an update document to make them compatible.
EW/LW will still use old pont levels (eg 1500 pts).
In book will be a conversion for every single EW/LW list that is out already, including changes to special rules.
Bridge by Bridge. 0.5 page rule changes. 2 rules no longer used.
Battle of Bulge. 1.5 page rule changes. 3 or 4 rules no longer used.
Desparate Measures. 2 special rules are no longer used
EW/LW Aresnal has changed for Artillery - reduce AT but increase Firepower
Forces will have a V3 button and a V4 button (may not be day 1)
No cards for EW or LW. use normal list.
MW does not come out with movement table. EW/LW does.

National special rules - major rules still there.
Command ones changed/deleted as command rules changed.
US loses excellent communication, tank telephones, ...
Germans loses Kampfgroup, Mission Tactics, ...
Soviet Hen & Chicks changed.
Rather than have a special rule, would have a "plus" to do things.


There will be another interview with Battlefront just before Christmas.

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(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
(Saga) Vikings

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post Dec 26 2016, 03:47 PM
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I haven't caught up with the latest podcast yet, but there is a summary of the new rules in the WWPD forums in the Rules Transscript of WWF Ep. 10 Version 4 Deconstructed topic.

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Mark C

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(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
(Saga) Vikings

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post Feb 3 2017, 12:21 PM
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Flames of War v4 is now available for pre-order

Flames Of War 4th Edition (FW007) USD$25
120 pages; Hardback book

El Alamein (FWBX07) USD$35
contains one mini-rulebook, one Panzer IV, one Panzer III, one Grant and two Crusaders

Desert Rats: British Forces in the Desert 1942 - 1943 (FW241) USD$20
Hardback Army Book

Afrika Korps: German Forces in the Desert 1942 - 1943 (FW242) USD$20
Hardback Army Book

Monty's Desert Rats (BRAB09) USD$80
contains one mini-rulebook, five Grant tanks, three Crusaders tanks, and two 17/25 pdr guns.

Rommel's Afrika Korps (GEAB14) USD$80
contains one mini-rulebook, five Panzer III tanks, three Panzer IV tanks, and two 8.8cm FlaK36 guns.


Regards

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Would play if I had time:
(FoW) Australian Rifle Company (EW/MW): 2000+ pts (MW)
(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
(Saga) Vikings

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(WFB) 2600+ pts Dwarfs

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post Mar 22 2017, 06:42 PM
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According to http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=5457 the release schedule is as shown below. Prices are from Aetherworks (Australian distributor) web site.

March Releases

Early March Releases

Product Code Product Name
FW007 Flames Of War Rulebook (Mid-war) A4, 120 pages, hardback. $37
FWBX07 Battle of El Alamein: War in the Desert (Plastic) $50
AT008 Range Finder (4th Edition) $15.50
AT005 Destroyed Markers $19.50
TK101 Desert Mission Token Set $15.50

Late March Releases

Product Code Product Name
FW241 Desert Rats Army Book (Mid-war) A4, 48 pages, hardback. $29.50
BRAB09 Monty's Desert Rats (Plastic) $117.50
CWP131 Desert Rats Paint Set
CWP231 Desert Rats Spray (Crusader Sand) $22.00
FW242 Afrika Korps Army Book (Mid-war) A4, 48 pages, hardback. $29.50
GEAB14 Rommel's Afrika Korps (Plastic) $117.50
CWP112 Afrika Korps Paint Set $22.00
CWP212 Afrika Korps Spray (DAK Sand) $22.00


April Releases

Early April Releases

Product Code Product Name
BBX32 Honey Armoured Troop (Plastic) $66.00
BR900 Desert Rats Dice Set
BR901 Desert Rats Token Set $15.50
GBX99 Tiger Heavy Tank Platoon (Plastic) $26.50 (2 models)
GE900 Afrika Korps Dice Set
GE901 Afrika Korps Token Set $15.50
BB221 Large Dune

Late April Releases

Product Code Product Name
BBX33 25 pdr Field Troop (Plastic) $54.50
BBX41 17/25 pdr Anti-tank Troop (Plastic) $26.50 (2 guns)
GBX98 8.8cm Heavy Anti-aircraft Platoon (Plastic) $26.50 (2 guns)
GBX91 10.5cm Artillery Battery (Plastic) $54.50
AT007 Artillery Template (4th Edition)
AT006 Smoke Bombardment Markers
AT009 Smoke Markers (Direct Sale Only)
BB226 Desert Scrub



May Releases

Early May Releases

Product Code Product Name
BBX39 Crusader Armoured Troop (Plastic) $66.00
BR753 Motor Platoon (Plastic)
BR754 HMG Platoon and Mortar Section (Plastic)
GBX96 Panzer III Tank Platoon (Plastic) $66.00
GE746 Afrika Korps Rifle Platoon $21.50
BB223 Large Desert Building

Late May Releases

Product Code Product Name
BBX37 Grant Armoured Troop (Plastic) $66.00
BBX38 6 pdr Anti-tank Platoon (Plastic) $44.00
GBX97 Panzer IV Tank Platoon (Plastic) $66.00
GBX101 Marder (7.62cm) Tank-hunter Platoon $69.00
GBX95 15cm Lorraine Schlepper Battery $69.00
BB219 Desert Oasis



June Releases

Early June Releases

Product Code Product Name
BBX34 Humber Armoured Car Troop
BBX35 Universal Carrier Patrol (Plastic)
GBX93 5cm Tank-hunter Platoon (Plastic)
GBX92 Sd Kfz 221 and Sd Kfz 222 Light Scout Troop
GBX100 Sd Kfz 231 Heavy Scout Troop
BB216 Large Desert House

Late June Releases

Product Code Product Name
BBX36 Bofors Light Anti-aircraft Troop
BBX40 Hurricane Tank-busting Flight
GBX94 Sd Kfz 10/4 (2cm) Light AA Platoon
GBX102 Panzer II Light Tank Platoon
GBX103 Ju 87 Stuka Dive Bomber Flight
BB224 Desert Administration Building


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(FoW) Australian Rifle Company (EW/MW): 2000+ pts (MW)
(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
(Saga) Vikings

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post Jul 27 2017, 12:31 PM
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MOAB
30th Sep - 2nd Oct, 2017
Sylvania Heights Community and Youth Club
Box Road, Sylvania. NSW 2224. Australia.
80/100 pts Mid War

APPROVED ARMIES

A Force lists will be any official V4 MW list from the new V4 MW books (Afrika Korps and Desert Rats) with any relevant “Build” card from either of those books command card sets, that players may wish to use to add variety to their force. Build cards will be part of your available points. The US book and Command Cards (Build) may also be used if released in time.

POINTS
80 points on Days 1 and 2,
100 points on day 3.

So far the available Build cards are

British Desert Rats
Portees
Guards Motor Company
Indian Motor Company
Scout Tanks
Softskin Transport
Humber Armoured Car Squadron (yum)
New Zealand Divisional Cavalry
Australian Divisional Cavalry

German Afrika Korps
Captured 6pdr Anti-tank
Armoured Car Company (extra yum)
Captured 25 pounders
Softskin transport

If USA or Italian Command cards with Build properties are out in time then they can be used as well.



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(FoW) Australian Rifle Company (EW/MW): 2000+ pts (MW)
(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
(Saga) Vikings

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post Jul 28 2017, 12:43 PM
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USA Midwar release

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QUOTE("HMS")

It appears that the launch range consists of:

the Fighting First army book - a name that I find outrageous given how late was the US entry in the war. I know it was used as a motto in the US army, but if someone decided to call "thin red line" a film on US forces I would know he was a complete moron. Oh, it happened!

a starter box with 5 Shermans, 2 M10s and 3 Stuarts - unsurprising as it's all plastic. The Shermans are of course the cast armour model, so not right for British forces, but we knew that already.

a box of 5 plastic Shermans

a box of 3 plastic priests - could be good for British APCs maybe?

a box of plastic armoured rifles - doesn't say if the infantry are of the faceless, soft plastic generation or the old stuff.

The ad also mentions a grand total of 14 boxes and 4 blisters so there's more to come.


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Would play if I had time:
(FoW) Australian Rifle Company (EW/MW): 2000+ pts (MW)
(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
(Saga) Vikings

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post Oct 20 2017, 01:00 PM
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BattleFront have announced the new LW book for v4, https://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=5824

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Listed as being USD$20.

Also some interesting scenarios for mid war

Battle of Gazala, May 25-31, 1942

The Cauldron, 6 June 1942

Regards

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(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
(Saga) Vikings

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post Nov 30 2017, 03:48 PM
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Win an Army
9th Dec, 2017
Rebel Outpost
Unit 3, 12 Donaldson St, Wyong, NSW
80 pts Mid War + 10 pts cards

Format:
- V4 Mid War 80 pts + 10 pts Cards
- Books allowed: Desert Rats / Afrika Korps / Fighting First
Italian M14/41 Formation/Units as allied support to the Germans - if you use this bring a copy.

The prize is an EW Panzer army.

Refer to https://www.facebook.com/events/16753205491...75325445853069/ for more details.




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Would play if I had time:
(FoW) Australian Rifle Company (EW/MW): 2000+ pts (MW)
(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
(Saga) Vikings

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post Dec 11 2017, 04:09 PM
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Sydney Mid War Grand Tournament
2nd - 3rd Dec, 2017
Hall of Heroes, 560 Queen Street, Campbelltown, NSW, 2560
80 pts Mid War + 10 pts cards
5 players attended


From https://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?ta...6&afv=topic the breakdown was

3x crusader list
1x german armoured cars
1x german panzer that got changed to german armoured cars when he realized panzers aren't great

The crusaders armies were:

1st
18x crusaders (hq 1 short)
4x 17/25pdrs (16 pts)
11x stand ARP
3x bofors (4 pts)
2x hurricanes (9 pts)
scout tank (1 pts)
john currie (8 pts)
lucky (1 pt)

2nd
19x crusaders
9x crusaders (aussie div cav)
10x stuarts (17 pts)
scout tank (1 pts)
john currie (8 pts)
lucky (1 pt)

3rd
19x crusaders (7 + 5 x 5-7)
4x 6 pdrs (12 pts)
3x 6 pdrs (9 pts)
4x 17/25 pdrs (16 pts)
3x UC (2 pts)
3x UC (2 pts)
pip roberts (4 pts)
lucky (1 pt)
i forget his other cards to make up to 10 points worth of cards


It was crusader companies 1st 2nd and 3rd, and that pretty much says it all

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(FoW) Deutsches Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts
(FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1750 pts
(Saga) Vikings

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