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post Feb 11 2019, 04:49 AM
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Been offline for a bit. Just popped in to let everyone know we enjoyed our intro game of DR using our dusty Warhammer Fantasy figures late January. Played the first two scenario from the book: the slugfest for the Brewer's Barrels on Kegger Hill. The Dwarves put up a good stoush. But the thirsty Beastmen of Derek would not be denied their ale in the end.

Game Two was a snatch and run. Kevin and his horny fellows managed to purloin a treasure chest of Dwarven gold and were racing to freedom. But the Brewer and his warband were determined to stop the hooven horde. And they looked like they would succeed as the Quarrellers made some decimating hits on the speedy furballs. And when the Spearmen of Khruddz reached the exit point first, it looked to be all over Red Rover. Especially as the heroic brewer himself, Clive, roamed at will sniping and taunting his foes with impunity. But Kevin's lot, as in the previous, would not denied. Using attrition they whittled the Little Stumpies until they resembled tiny pencils worn down to their ends.

It was an entertaining three easy hours. Game went slow at first but picked up pace considerably in the second game. Next game in two weekends. Night Goblins versus Lustrians perhaps. Will post pics then. Cheers. ☺

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post Feb 12 2019, 01:59 PM
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Game 1 pics
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Deployment. View from Attacker end (north looking south)

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The prize - the kegs of ale

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Opening moves all over.

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Situation in my centre and right.

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My left flank is secure. The centre and right is still in contention.

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The situation between the orange roughies and my Gors.

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The end is nigh for the beaten Dwarves. The kegs now belong to the thirsty Beasties.

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Table set up. Game played much faster. A game snatch and run away.

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The beasties race to the exit but the dwarves will close that egress very quickly. The dwarves activation and shooting is much more consistent and regular. Clive with magic sword is also providing the Dwarves with some fine moments of tabletop mayhem.

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By attrition and shrewd avoidance of Clive and slice-and-dicer, the beasties are able to even their chances. In the end, the losses on the dwarves proves too much and they give up the fight for their treasure.

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Table: 4' x 4'

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post Feb 13 2019, 11:40 AM
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Great reports! Thanks for sharing! smile.gif

Looks like it provide a use for all those small scatter shot forces I've accumulated over time smile.gif


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post Feb 13 2019, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(D_Arquebus @ Feb 13 2019, 11:40 AM) *

Great reports! Thanks for sharing! smile.gif

Looks like it provide a use for all those small scatter shot forces I've accumulated over time smile.gif

True and thanks. Beats accumulating dust on shelf. biggrin.gif. Game is a good supplement to other fantasy systems because it is fast. Last game took around 40 mins! Typical unit sizes are 6 or 12 figs. Cause it's fantasy though, you now have two other unit types - single (heroic) and reduced model (typically 3 figs). 24 points (most common) but system is flexible enough to 'bigger', but trade off depends on your definition of skirmish.



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post Feb 24 2019, 07:31 PM
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Game held yesterday. Scenario 3 from the book - Death Race. It came down to the laws of attrition. And who would hold their nerves first. Fought between Elves and Dwarves.

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Table setup. Dwarves (defender) start at eastern table edge. They must escape via western table edge. Standing in ther way are the Elves.

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Deployment. Dwarves lay down entirely first with units touching eastern border. Elves cannot deploy closer than 18" to dwarves. And at least one unit apiece must touch north and south edge.

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Midway through game. Elves strike first blood with Light Riders shooting up Dwarven spears. Elven archers aren't doing well as the Dwarf warlord races as far as the Little Forest before confronted. The Berserkers smash into the Elven spears who survive the onslaught. After to and fro-ing, the berserkers are eventually broken but at a cost. The Dwarf missile units join in the action and enjoy fantastic success routing the Elvish spears and both archers units.

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But then the dwarves suffer the loss of their valiant warlord who somehow manages to tackle both Elvish horse with capability for a short while before he is felled. The remaining dwarves test for courage, and prove to be stout.

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The Thunderers are attacked by the Dragon Princes. Their demise leaves just the crossbows left.

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Though cornered the Quarrellers are able decimate the Light Riders leaving just the heavy knights left to deal with.

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Slowly forced to the table edge, the crossbows hope their frepower might neutralise the heavy armoured knights. But they fail and are forced to flee. A close run thing.

Next game will be Beasties versus Orcs and Goblins. Running a league. More info on my blogsite. Cheers.


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post Mar 17 2019, 01:10 PM
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No games this month. April will be busy though. Cheers.


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post Mar 18 2019, 06:27 AM
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Somehow missed the Elf v Dwarf report earlier.

Great write up! Thanks for sharing smile.gif .

Is game time speeding up with familiarity?
How quickly do you feel the rules mastery is occurring so that you can both focus on the tactics instead?

Looking froward to the Beastmen vs Orcs smile.gif


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post Mar 18 2019, 07:57 AM
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Thanks.

Familiarity is made easier by the understanding the system which is very easy to learn. My opponent is new but picked up the game mechanics in our first outing. It does helps when one is very familiar with Daniel Mersey's game system design. Speaking for myself, I began with his historical version, Lion Rampant. Started playing it back end of 2015. Started solo campaigning in 2016. Into my fourth season now (2019).

Dragon Rampant, in my "jaundiced" eyes, is simply an off-shoot of Lion Rampant - albeit extremely popular enough overseas to see its inception as a fun alternative for those feel the need to magically twitch their dice rolls. biggrin.gif Apart from the expansion of the Leadership skills table, changed game victory terminology, big addition of the fantasy magical component, two new unit types (the single figure heroic leader AND reduced model unit), and a couple of other minor elements, the core gaming mechanics is exactly the same as Lion Rampant!

So, yes, I am extremely familiar with the rules and tactics. I do like that DR adds another element with the magic/fantasy. It isn't on the same level of sophistication as Warhammer fantasy -- it is skirmish after all with the emphasis on quick fun encounters.

I am of the opinion that the game is a simple medieval clash of arms with a dash/sprinkling of puff-puff. The table tactics is exactly like LR. The key with understanding and utilisation of the basic troop type is the same for any astute tabletop general; the sleight-of-hand waving about adds a touch of flair to the tabletop fun.

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post Mar 19 2019, 11:30 AM
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Simple way to defeat a Leader figure with a Blessed weapon is hope he fails his activation for that weapon at the commencement of the game (he needs a 5 or 6 to successfully activates his magic weapon).

If that option fails, and he is wielding his magic dice-and-slicer, run units of Elite riders at it. But remove the WC factor by giving them Level Headed attribute which removes the mandatory impulsiveness Wild Charge brings. Their 3+ attack and 4 armour save PLUS unit size (6 figures minimum), should deal to El Lordo quick enough.

Or you could go long range heavy missiles (usually crossbows with their 4+ to hit and 12" effective range -- 18" max but at -1 for longer range) at the figure in the hope he cops those hits quickly. You could even use Heavy foot with the Offensive attribute: 4+ attack AND defend is ok; 12 figures gives you time to whittle down Mr Magic Scissorhands. Lol.

Of course, if you have a magic user, you can throw a few spells to counter that Blessed weapon capability (reroll all missed Attack dice). I prefer to use the Befuddle Thee spell to cause the Grand Poobah to go straight to Battered state, instantly negating his sheer awesomeness to frightened onion peeler! Used in conjunction with a timed assault by a suitable unit (Elite foot or Elite Riders) at Los Stupendous can prove surprisingly beneficial to you.

Up to the individual player if he wants El Presidente on his heroic lonesome or surrounded by bodyguards. Best sensible option would be within any unit of at least 6, or more, figures. Or just keep him behind a suitable wall of willing "bodies".

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Further to the above, you can augment the Bossman's offensive prowess with magical armour. But one needs to be mindful that The Chairman of the Board has a total limit of 10 points. In a 24-pt list, that leaves little left for recruiting other troops. Example: A leader drawn from Elite costs 6 pts (base value). With a Blessed wpn, that's 2 pts; and Mystical Armour, there's your 10-pt total.

The better option would be to place Mr Universe among a missile unit so they get to share the Blessed Weapon attribute! Rerolling failed hits is now double trouble for any unlucky opponent

Maxxing out on your leader affects unit costs. If going with crossbows, that means it now costs 6 pts to assemble. With Captain Adama attached, you'll have already spent 16 points total! The remaining eight points might yield two-three low powered units, generally speaking which may prove to be nothing more than mere speed bumps in your tabletop crusade. But players can be quite resourceful when it comes to extracting the best value from a horde of skelos or zombies. armata_PDT_36.gif

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post Mar 20 2019, 11:32 AM
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There are two troop types in Dragon Rampant that I am beginning to enjoy a lot -- the Bellicose Foot (or Fierce Foot as they're known in Lion Rampant) and the Scout (or Bidower in Lion Rampant). They share the same basic traits as their historical equivalent. Therefore, playing them on the table is a very familiar exercise.

Both figure well offensively and should therefore be employed so. All Bellicose Foot (BF) have the Wild Charge (WC) trait which means anything within movement distance is batter mix material and therefore automatically attacked -- even if they don't want to. Fortunately, you have a check system: the unit must pass the test to activate a Wild Charge - 2d6 with 7+ result for success. If it doesn't pass the WC test, then it does not activate. The BF also have an interesting add-on trait: they are able to Counter Charge (CC) any foot unit assaulting them.

The Scouts (Sc) have the Skirmish ability meaning that offensively they can move AND shoot in the same turn (Shot and then move or Move and then shoot). A handy tool given no other unit type may perform this same action. They also have the defensive equivalent, Evade, which is quite handy when being charged by those clanky noisy tin pots or ferocious snapping maws of beasts and like! Be careful though, the 1 armour save makes them very cheap fodder. In saying that their 8" move (also shared by the BF) makes small compensation along with Fleet Footed (no terrain penalties).

The Scouts also have Hard To Target (like their historical counterparts) because they are so fluid on the tabletop battlefield. That 1 armour save puts them into the same pile as Ravenous Hordes (or Serfs in LR) which are the true and ultimate battlefield fodder! But Fleet Footed, Evade, Skirmish and Hard To Target elevate them to top of that fodder pile!

Both types mentioned above are very handy as flankers. They will, depending on their dice rolls, prove ideal in delaying any opposing unit to their front, which is handy should any simultaneous multi frontal assaults take place (as you do when you hear that the fantasy Powerball Lotto is now $80 gazillion gold pieces!). The mounted can also achieve the same goal but are more mobile. I prefer to centre my more mobile troops offering them more flexibility; holding the centre position allows for greater divergence tactically. But that's my opinion.

The Bellicose Foot Defensive Value (DV) is not great when compared to their more useful 3+ Attack Value (AV). But that's okay; they are made for fast offensive strikes. To sustain it, they need support to maintain and possibly exploit that initial strike, a heavy/light foot or light rider unit is handy.

3+ is the top limit as far as AV goes. In my last game with my regular opponent I ran my Bellicose Foot (Elvish spearmen) against his ginger-bearded Dwarves (also Bellicose Foot). It was an amusing sideshow treat watching his Gingernuts go head-to-head with my Pinky Tuscaderoes! The conclusion was foregone but at least it meant my flank on that side was relatively safe for a short while.

One interesting fact that may, or may not, be of use to budding DR players. The Heavy and Light Foot share the same interesting 4+ DV. What[s interesting is that their AV is 5+! This means they are better defensively. With Wall of Spear (increasing their armour saves to 4 and 3 respectively), their value increases as defensive walls. However, if you drop the Wall of Spear and replace it with Offensive, their AV goes to 4+ making a decent well-rounded unit (AV 4+, DV 4+). Making them the ideal main body troops capable of reinforcing any breakthrough or shoring up the defences.

My opponent successfully proved this many times in our last game. I thought my riders would break them but they proved resistant and resilient!

Their corresponding AV, however, is 5+ which is on the same par as an AV of 6!

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post Mar 31 2019, 09:04 AM
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Easy to forget this is a skirmish game where the emphasis should be on concentrated hard hitting and swift movements. Some tend to play it like larger games. And their tactics might show on your 4' foot square board. Some scenarios demand more space (ironically, such as the escape and evade type), but generally you're on a little board -- cramped perhaps with scenery and obstacles. What are you going to do?

1. Know the game/scenario objective. If it involves getting to a certain point by a certain time, then know the condition of that victory. Ingrain it into your dice. Bend your will (and perhaps the table) to achieving that single aim. Forget that you have a prior appointment with the hairdresser or financial adviser. And "stuff your opponent" if your deployment permits you the advantage of getting there "quickest!" in the time allocated. Nothing annoys an opponent most when you simply ignore them on your march/ride to victory while they stand in their pretty aligned rows.

2. Protect the innocent. That means El Guapo. The Boss Man, in our projected campaign mode this season, is a valuable asset and should be treated as such. Not with comfortable cushions or sweet turkish delights but with a suitable escort for protection. Because once lost, it means recruiting a replacement, and El Guapo might turn out to be El Guacamole if the new Leadership skill is below 7. It's a gamble of course; one can only hope the dice roll result is greater than that of the original former warlord.

3. Learn the weaknesses of your troop types. Even lofty knights with their pin prodders have weak links (pun intended). The balanced warband is your safe bet to start with - a strong core of either foot and/or foot/missile with riders/scouts for faster actions. Extremes, such as an all-horse or all-missile unit, present unique problems that can be overcome, and should be treated as novelty moments. But our current campaign mode allows each player to field three different lists so a novelty list might break the monotone

4. Support your attacks and reinforce your defences. Basic tabletop understanding. But few master it. It's something we average players strive to achieve. Always. Like democracy, we must be eternally vigilant in our efforts. Otherwise, we end up as politicians. Or, worse, bureaucrats! Aargh!

5. Have fun. Sometimes, in the seriousness that can be wargaming, we forget why we play. It's stress relief. It's a safe way to dump grump amid a convivial environment. We shoot the breeze. We shoot the bull. We swing like giants amid a table of mandollies. And our better halves tolerate it because they know a wayward partner is like a menace to society. Which we aren't, right?

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post Apr 12 2019, 02:41 PM
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Looking forward to a game of Dragon Rampant this weekend. Full batrep to follow.


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Enjoyed a game of Dragon Rampant today. We played Scenario D - The Crystal Gale. Basic narrative is an enchantment causes a sovereign (Queen) to lose her collection of gems. The stones are scattered into a neighbouring land where the owners (the Defenders) race to collect their new-found treasure. Meanwhile the Queen despatches her own forces (the Attackers) to recover as many of the gems as possible. Either that or else defeat the Defenders. Winner is the one who gains the most Glory.

I ran a Shaman-led Beastmen list - 2 Scout units, 1 Bellicose unit, 1 Lesser Warbeast unit, and 1 Elite Foot unit. My leader was attached to my Elite Foot. Total = 24 points.

My opponent ran an Orcs and Goblin list - 1 Light Foot unit, 2 Lesser Warbeast units, 1 Light Rider unit, and 2 Scout units. One of his Lesser Warbeast unit had the additional option of Flying. His leader was attached to the other Lesser Warbeast unit. Total = 24 points.

We rolled for our Leadership factor. I rolled 9 - Brave while my opponent rolled 11 - Commanding.

Then we randomly selected our Quest using a system I devised (based on my solo campaign with Lion Rampant). One of the Glory chosen by my opponent had a humorous side effect whereby the Leader and the escort unit were unable to take part in the entire game. I laughed. My opponent laughed. We both laughed.

Game report is done via images with captions. We are starting a competitive league starting July if anyone local is keen join in.

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Last turn (Turn 7) sees the Light Riders activate and capture the last gem stone.

Victory tally up saw my opponent win out by one Glory. So, his boast was correct in that he did not need to be involved in the encounter as his warband won out in the end. Good close win for my opponent who is enjoying Dragon Rampant. Lots of laughter and fun. Good afternoon gaming.

Neither side got to use their magic surprisingly.

We did manage to squeeze in a quick dogfight playing Canvas Eagles. Batrep for that to follow in next few days.

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post Apr 15 2019, 12:23 AM
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Nice report as always smile.gif

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Then we randomly selected our Quest using a system I devised (based on my solo campaign with Lion Rampant).

Can you expound a little on this please? smile.gif . Just a simple system for determining scenarios or more in depth?


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Thanks. By "Quests", it is meant boasts (it's the same thing in Lion Rampant but is actually called Boasts). It is a bit confusing as most people equate "Quests" with adventure and activity, not bragging rights.

"Quest" is valued as Glory points. In DR, there are three levels of "Quests" (or boasts): Level 3 (worth 3 Glory points), Level 2 (2 Glory points), and Level 1 (1 Glory point). A player may choose up to three "Quests" (boasts) in any one game. And these "Quests" are therefore additional incentives alongside the scenario objective(s). However, I should add that failure to achieve whatever "Quests" are chosen means a -1 total per "Quest". So, there is potential for a -3 score! sad.gif

The system we use for randomizing "Quests" is a modified one but is both simple and impartial. It stops a player from stacking up/boosting his score by selecting all level 3 "Quests". Nine bonus points is quite a lot of Glory points in any one game if successfully achieved!

Basically, each player rolls 3d6 three times (corresponding with each of the three levels of "Quests"; the order doesn't matter as both players determine that prior to the game). Any result that is 9+ means the player gains that "Quest"; anything less than 9 means uh-uh. For each "Quest" gained, the player then rolls 1d8 to determine what specific "Quest" is selected with 1-7 matching the "Quest" listing in the rulebook while 8 means the player has the choice.

I would add that "Quests" aren't that simple or easy to obtain. My opponent, as he himself stated, got lucky with "I will not soil my blade on so weak an enemy" boast. Had my Lesser Warbeast actually contacted his immobile Leader and forced activation, then he would have forfeited his Level 3 Quest and therefore the game victory!

But "Quests" do add something to developing one's overall game tactics. For example, if you draw the "Strike a mighty blow" Quest (worth 2 Glory points if successful) - Destroy two enemy units in one turn, the player may well devise a tactic to achieve this goal as part of his overall strategy. Although the type of scenario being played has a greater bearing on a player's strategy.

Hope this helps clear it up for you. armata_PDT_34.gif

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Cheers. We are slowly going through the scenarios in the rulebook. Three left to go. By the time of our campaign league, starting 1 July, we will be using various old Warhammer scenarios. Many will be modified to fit our standard table size of 4' x 4'. Specific "chase" scenarios will move to the larger 6' x 4' table. Lots of playtesting therefore. biggrin.gif





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Gaming buddy recently sent me a couple of DR scenarios not in the rulebook that he's keen to try. Both involve a BIG RED DRAGON. I've looked over them and like them both indeed. Keen to try the first one - The Magnificent Seven - or as I've re-dubbed it, Toast or Crumpets? The other one seems appropriate because it's Easter long weekend. It is entitled Egg Hunt: some dragon egg hunters happen across a nest and sight a golden opportunity to nab themselves an egg. Only problem is a couple of nestlings standing in the way of gain. And lurking somewhere is "Mother Hen" (our red dragon) who will make an appearance during the game.

Both give me the opportunity to drag out my old Forge World Warhammer Fire Dragon, especially for The Magnificent Seven scenario. If it play tests well, we'll use it and Egg Hunt in the upcoming campaign league.

For those wanting another option for delivering Quests (boasts), there are online cards one can download from the DR community forum site. This is a nice adjunct to the dice rolling method described in an earlier post, and will suit each player because they have ready access to the Quest they've "made".

There is also a Quick Reference Sheet (QRS) PDF. But after playing DR often enough, you soon realise that you won't end up needing it.


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post Apr 20 2019, 02:43 AM
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Had a closer look at the Spells and Quests cards pdf sent to me. Have a pet peeve regarding spelling and one of the Quests was missing. So I decided to do my own version with corrected spelling and including the missing Quest. The laminated card decks will be ready by the time next month's game comes round.


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