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Reaper22
post Apr 19 2016, 10:46 PM
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Whats out there in the way of sci-fi skirmish games?

What do you like, or don't like. Anything new and exciting?
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post Apr 20 2016, 07:54 AM
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Infinity for cool setting, cooler minis and some great players. Rules are high on complexity scale but worth learning.

MERCS was (and will be when 2.0 is released) my go to for real quick pick up games. Again, good setting, fun rules. Much easier than Infinity to pick-up. Limited mini selection is good in this game. Each faction has 7 or 8 guys and for a game you just pick 5 - no points, no hassle. Also has a co-op boardgame that the minis can be used with.
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post Apr 20 2016, 11:40 AM
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Mantic's Deadzone doesn't get anywhere near enough love. It's a good halfway between Necromunda and Infinity.

I helped Kickstart a game back when, Ghosts of Hefei. Near-modern sci-fi, interesting concepts. Haven't had a chance to really get playing but I like it.

Otherwise yeah, go for Infinity. It's popular enough that you won't want for games (ie the 40K conundrum: "If I don't play 40K will I get any games?") and even though it's got a learning curve, the base mechanics are easy enough to pick up in a single game. And the rules, stats & counters are all free online so it's less of an outlay than you think smile.gif

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post Apr 20 2016, 07:13 PM
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Game systems and/ or popular web links below.

Caveat is that these games have less broad appeal then say 40k as mentioned above and so you may need to find one you like and then "sell it" to your gaming group.

Necromunda (Future Distopian)

- long term favorite and seems to be small pockets of people always playing this old classic GWS Specialist game.

This is Not a Test (Post Apocalyptic)

- new comer and the rules seem to be pretty good. Bonus is the models are not mandated so you can collect whatever takes your fancy and fit them into the existing rules structure.

Mutants and Death Ray Guns (generic/ anything you want it to be)

- same platform as Song of Blades and Heroes (Fantasy) and the also popular Song of Drums and Shakos (Napoleonic). Again you can custom design your forces to match the models you have collected.

Tomorrow's War

- More of a squad level game then pure skirmish. But has up to very fine granularity of rules (including medi-evacs of casualties, etc) as you wish to include. Again fairly miniature independent so can run any forces you like to match the rules. I am planning on reusing my old 40k stuff to fit in.

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post Apr 20 2016, 10:08 PM
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Thanks guys. From what I've heard about infinity it is a hard game to pick up. But the models are sweet.

Some interesting ones there to check out. Looks like TNT just had a successful kickstarter, anyone jump on That?

Anyone play or tried Afterlife? http://www.afterlifevolumes.com
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post Apr 20 2016, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Reaper22 @ Apr 20 2016, 10:08 PM) *

Thanks guys. From what I've heard about infinity it is a hard game to pick up. But the models are sweet.


A bit of a misnomer now the game is easier now than a year ago to play in another 2 or 3 months and it's only going to be yet easier. The rules are currently being put through a major update so once all the little quirk's are answered/FAQ'ed it's not going to stand up to the old "it's too hard Spanish rule's" troupe is being hit with before.


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Anyone play or tried Afterlife? http://www.afterlifevolumes.com


Great company but UK based off the top of my head. Basically not stocked by anyone in AUS and unless you are a prolific painter, demo'ier (it's a word or it is now) and all round hustler it's going to be a hard sell. sad.gif


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post Apr 21 2016, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(VisOne @ Apr 20 2016, 10:32 PM) *
The rules are currently being put through a major update


huh? didnt they only release 3rd edition last year?
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post Apr 21 2016, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE(Reaper22 @ Apr 20 2016, 10:08 PM) *
Some interesting ones there to check out. Looks like TNT just had a successful kickstarter, anyone jump on That?


Kickstarter was mostly for Hard copy of the rules. Previously and going forward they will mostly just be PDF.

QUOTE(Mango @ Apr 21 2016, 12:25 AM) *

huh? didnt they only release 3rd edition last year?


I believe they are bringing the Paradiso and Human Sphere up to scratch with 3rd Ed.


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QUOTE(D_Arquebus @ Apr 21 2016, 01:41 AM) *

I believe they are bringing the Paradiso and Human Sphere up to scratch with 3rd Ed.


QUOTE(Mango @ Apr 21 2016, 12:25 AM) *

huh? didnt they only release 3rd edition last year?


This,

Because what we have being playing for I don't know the last year or so was really Edition 2.5 which was 2/3 2nd Edition and 1/3 3rd Edition there was still a lot of rules that weren't clear and the game still suffered some Spanglish.

With Human Sphere N3 literally weeks away from its full release now we will finally have a full, complete and finished 3rd Edition for all players not just the Beta Testers/Warcors/select few Adepticon addenants to work with.

Infinity isn't perfect but it is undoubtedly the largest system by player numbers, the most well supported both by stores and the company proper in Australia and IMHO the best set of rules on the market thanks to the core Face to Face D20 system.

I always explain the whole thing in 1 or 2 ways if you service/ex-service/military minded its easily a good simulation game of how a section or two of soldiers would act IF you not its easily just a great little action movie/vidya game where the assumption is everyone (model) on that table has some weapons training and experience in the field so reacts like you expect someone would. Shoots when they need to, ducks when they need to and either supports the other bigger named characters to get the job done or if there the big named dudes gets the support they need to get the job done.

But ultimately its up to you Reaper22 got to get what your keen on. wink.gif


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post Apr 21 2016, 09:10 AM
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Infinity isn't super hard to pick-up to be honest, but its super hard to learn everything in the game and account for it - which makes it good.

The basic rules, ably introduced by the operation icestorm starter missions, aren't too crazy at all. The depth/complexity comes from special rules interactions. I've run a few noob tournaments and people who've never played a full game have managed to get 3 games in, not mess up the rules too much and even win a round or two.

It can be brutal and offputting if you play a good player who uses a lot of special rules against you in your first play!

Tons of batreps online. As for youtube channels I'll spruik the direct action games channel as a great place to watch a couple of batreps. Otherwise, guerrilla miniature games and gaming with the cooler both have lots of batreps too. Give you a good feel even if they may seem daunting to start.
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post Apr 21 2016, 10:19 AM
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Infinity all the way

Its different to the usual hobby scene of gw people might be used to but so, so much better for it.

Currently doing some games with batreps for global campaign as I build a new table and army around it waiting for the new book.


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post Apr 23 2016, 11:47 AM
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Have you tried the FUBAR Sci Fi rules?

They're free so worth a look at...

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I like what I have read about Gruntz: LINK

I am slowly painting up figures to use with it smile.gif


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Gruntz and Tomorrows War are very good. I enjoyed them both.


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Whats out there in the way of sci-fi skirmish games?

What do you like, or don't like. Anything new and exciting?


Not exactly new, but I'm really excited about Infernal from Wartorn Games. They had a KS last year which did modestly, but they'be been steadily selling since and are getting ready to release the next two factions:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/778845...ame/description

https://www.facebook.com/wartorngames/?fref=ts

The rules are solid enough and easy to understand. It's an I go you go sequence, with a weapon has a value of how many dice to role in order to hit, taking away modifiers for things like cover and armour, then a roll has to be equal or below the models stat with a success generally meaning a hit.

But what really got me was the setting and the models, at least of the tortured souls. If you've seen Split Second with Rutger Huar you're most of the way there - just imagine it was set a few years after the film if the monster had won.

Or, hell has opened up beneath London and the souls of the dead, tortured for millennia in hell, are infecting survivors of the apocalypse and monster are bursting through their skin. The second faction are the spec ops of the British military sent in to kill the monsters, and the survivors before they can be turned into monsters. It's pretty grim, and can easily be turned into 'Doom, the Wargame' by using sci fi models.
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On the point of Necromunda - it's coming back. GW I think mentioned last year that they're bringing all their popular skirmish games back. They've already done that with Warhammer Quest, next is Blood Bowl, and Necromunda either end of next year, or early 2018.

Necromunda gets my pick - it's one of the best games I've ever played, particularly with campaign play.
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Have you heard of Dark Age from CMON? A post apocalyptic sci fi game set on a back water planet besieged by aliens and killer robots. I really enjoy it and think it's fast and fun to play. If you are going to PAX this year I will be running some demos over the weekend. Feel free to drop by for a game

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Has anyone played Mutants and Death Ray Guns? I think it's the same mob as A Song of Blades and Heroes. From reviews it sounds like they made the mistake of randomising equipment. Who can possibly have a miniatures collection which supports that?

I think miniatures games lend themselves to guns, so sci fi is the go. When you march fantasy figures with hand to hand weapons up against each other, the need for miniatures kind of evaporates except for removing casualties.
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Wow! These are really great skirmish games. When I first read about infinity I installed it right away such a cool game. Nevertheless players here are friendly and such a great company.


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