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Eldar_Storm
post Oct 15 2011, 10:13 AM
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1 Great Unclean One, Cloud of Flies
1 Great Unclean One
1 Demon prince of Nurgle, Iron Hide
1 Demon prince of Nurgle, Iron Hide
1 Demon prince of Nurgle, Iron Hide
6 Beasts of Nurgle
6 Blood Crushers
10 Plaguebearers + Icon of Chaos
14 Plaguebearers
10 Plaguebearers
9 Nurglings


So I thought i would throw this up so see some reactions. I Think this list is hard to rate because in different situations it will have polar opposite results. For example, some Guard/tau/slow armies might severly struggle facing these deamons. Some mech and GK lists will obliterate this list. Its stupidly good in some areas of the game, and stupidly bad in others.

I actually beat GKs last night! woot! all it took was me rolling like a GOD all game long AND my opponent rolling below average.... all game long AND my opponent taking a pretty soft GK list AND making 2 critical mistakes! I won by 1 KP!! LOL I think its fair to say that ill never beat GKs again! so in 3 games vs GKs, ive been tabled once, almost tabled once (prevented by mishapping and my opponent placing some plague bearers in a corner thus they lived) and this freak show by the dice gods for a win! smile.gif Ive tabled a guard player and gone toe to toe with blood angels and tyranids. Orks have always beaten me but atleast it was a good solid fight.

This list has the most fun facing orks/nids/khorne/blood angels. (combat stuff)
This list has the least fun facing mech dark eldar and mech eldar (Fast stuff)
This list fears GKs! (obviously)

Any thoughts people would like to throw in?
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post Oct 15 2011, 11:00 AM
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id like the crushers to go in place of say more nurgle stuff, why no epi and gaze on the princes

i do like how you have taken the beasts biggrin.gif

but i see no reason why people wouldnt mind playing this


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post Oct 15 2011, 12:21 PM
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Seems incredibly soft but I guess it is stout.
A lot of what you've included would run better with even minor upgrades such as touch on princes and flies on GUOs.

Even with a uniform high toughness I don't see this really being a problem for most Tyranid lists (Toxic sacs on hormagaunts, genestealers and Tervigons being a norm). Also I'd be worrying about you build if your afraid of GKs they didn't really add much to the equation against daemons. Not really sure why you went for bloodcrushers over something more likely to down these things if your worried about them (Like 3 man acid spewing flies as flamers).


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post Oct 15 2011, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(Eldar_Storm @ Oct 15 2011, 11:13 AM) *

This list fears GKs! (obviously)

Any thoughts people would like to throw in?


just that I hope I didn't make my GK too weak!


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post Oct 15 2011, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(J.McGowan @ Oct 15 2011, 12:00 PM) *

id like the crushers to go in place of say more nurgle stuff, why no epi and gaze on the princes

i do like how you have taken the beasts biggrin.gif

but i see no reason why people wouldnt mind playing this



After reading the fluff about daemons i found that they all ally with eachother very frequently. They even ally with opposite gods and fight their own kind quite happily. I took this as an acceptable reason to add crushers. My only other choice was to do up another 6 chaos trolls as beasts of nurgle. I preferred the variety. Also the beasts are pretty average and i regularly struggle vs combat armies so the crushers will really help out.

No epi because he makes people cry. I personally think two GUOs are tougher and work better. No gaze because i dont really have any trouble killing infantry and without epi I dont need those fast kills from gaze on turn1. the princes could really use noxious touch because killing on a 2+ with reroll is sooooooooooo much better than straight S5.
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post Oct 15 2011, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(Starfire @ Oct 15 2011, 02:09 PM) *

just that I hope I didn't make my GK too weak!


Is there such a thing? post your list!!
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post Oct 15 2011, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(Shadow Fox @ Oct 15 2011, 01:21 PM) *

Seems incredibly soft but I guess it is stout.
A lot of what you've included would run better with even minor upgrades such as touch on princes and flies on GUOs.

Even with a uniform high toughness I don't see this really being a problem for most Tyranid lists (Toxic sacs on hormagaunts, genestealers and Tervigons being a norm). Also I'd be worrying about you build if your afraid of GKs they didn't really add much to the equation against daemons. Not really sure why you went for bloodcrushers over something more likely to down these things if your worried about them (Like 3 man acid spewing flies as flamers).



your right on many points. As life gives me more time ill get heaps more units from other gods in there!!

thanks for all your comments!!
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post Oct 16 2011, 08:13 PM
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Here you go Luke:
Grand Master Albigens = 265pts
Grand Master
Psycannon
Psychotroke Grenades
Rad Grenades
Empyrean Brain Mines
Blind Grenades

Epistolary Valerio = 190pts
Librarian
3 Servo Skulls
Empyrean Brain Mines
Sanctuary
Might of Titan
Warp Rift

Elites:
The Operative
Vindicare Assassin = 145pts

Troops:
Terminator Squad Thawn = 300pts
5x Terminators
Justicar Thawn
Psycannon
Daemon hammer

Strike Squad Lukas = 120pts
5x Strike Squad
2x Halberds
Justicar w/ Nemesis Falchions
1x Psilencer

Vastator Malus = 50pts
Razorback
Psybolt Ammunition

Strike Squad Gideon = 125pts
5x Strike Squad
Psycannon
Justicar w/ Master Crafted Nemesis Daemon hammer

Diaboli Venator = 50pts
Razorback
Psybolt Ammunition

Fast Attack:
Interceptor Squad Venator = 310pts
10x Interceptors
2x Psycannons
Psycannon Ammunition
Justicar w/ Daemon hammer

Heavy Support:
Venerated Brother Castavore = 140pts
Dreadnought
Truesilver Armour
Assault Cannon
Psybolt Ammunition

Honoured Brother Artor = 155pts
Dreadnought
Truesilver Armour
Assault Cannon
Heavy Flamer
Psybolt Ammunition
Psyflame Ammunition


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post Oct 16 2011, 08:32 PM
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Looks good! I think in the past ive had an edge, but I think the tables might turn at stout!

This should be an awesome game!
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post Oct 16 2011, 09:35 PM
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I must be missing something... You actually think your Daemons are disadvantaged vs. That GK list.
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post Oct 16 2011, 09:49 PM
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Warp rift+ tank shock for clumping=hilarious


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post Oct 17 2011, 06:41 AM
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Shut up Tom! My list is invincible!

QUOTE(J.McGowan @ Oct 16 2011, 10:49 PM) *

Warp rift+ tank shock for clumping=hilarious


No you gave it away!

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post Oct 17 2011, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(Buddha @ Oct 16 2011, 10:35 PM) *

I must be missing something... You actually think your Daemons are disadvantaged vs. That GK list.


have you seen my list?

his GKs are not a power list by any shot, infact if i had almost any other army id be rather confident. In a daemon match up, life is not so weighed against him! Warp quake means he sets the battlefield, rad and hammerhand beats my toughness and he has more speed than me to make it all happen. that flamer thingy can take out my GUOs quicker than i can say "holy sh!t, what just happened?"

I think it will be a good battle and we both have tactics to try to emloy. It wont be easy for either of us I believe!

If it was you playing it Tom, id not be worried at all, but this is Ben we are talking about! smile.gif (ooh burn!) lol
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post Oct 17 2011, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(Eldar_Storm @ Oct 17 2011, 06:27 PM) *

If it was you playing it Tom, id not be worried at all, but this is Ben we are talking about! smile.gif (ooh burn!) lol


Aaaaand sigged. biggrin.gif


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post Oct 17 2011, 07:05 PM
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I have nothing to say, that was solid, you are lucky you are already grudged Mr Jensen.
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