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| Richard |
 Mar 20 2012, 08:08 AM
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 Member  Group: Veteran Members Posts: 486 Joined: 19-December 06 From: Toowoomba, QLD Member No.: 3,573  |
Interesting, changes are:
104 pts (both versions) Heavy Flamethrower and a DEP +1 PH (18) Was there something wrong with it to begin with? Whoops! Missed the link... http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en...profile-update/ This post has been edited by Richard: Mar 20 2012, 09:00 AM |
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| dedhed |
Mar 20 2012, 08:51 AM
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 Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 4,991 Joined: 8-March 06 Member No.: 2,591 |
Where are these changes?
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| Richard |
Mar 20 2012, 09:01 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 486 Joined: 19-December 06 From: Toowoomba, QLD Member No.: 3,573 |
In there now...
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| chromedog |
Mar 20 2012, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(dedhed @ Mar 20 2012, 09:51 AM)  Where are these changes? Army lists download off the Infinity website (under downloads). The army list for PanO has the new entry in it now. If you play PanO or play against them, redownload the lists for the new profile. -------------------- Not sent from my Lumia800 using the microwave as a proxy server.
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| datreus |
Mar 20 2012, 09:31 AM
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There were two main things wrong with it -
1) The loadout was incorrect as it was for fire support, not assault as intended 2) This led to certain players camping the jotum behind Total Cover at the back of the table and just spending all their order on speculative fire to carpet the table in grenades. |
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| noakes |
Mar 20 2012, 09:31 AM
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 Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 981 Joined: 24-May 10 From: Melbourne Member No.: 9,518 |
i saw this on their official facebook updates, but i never realised before this that they changed stats on stuff, has anything else been changed out of the mark 2 books? i dont wanna rock up to games and be cheating accidentallly,
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| Krefey |
Mar 20 2012, 10:53 AM
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I sitll haven't ordered my Jotum yet
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| Kinsmanalike |
Mar 20 2012, 10:53 AM
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so what disadvantages?
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| Richard |
Mar 20 2012, 11:02 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 486 Joined: 19-December 06 From: Toowoomba, QLD Member No.: 3,573 |
None, unless you count the swap from HGL to Heavy Flamethrower and DEP a disadvantage. The changes are exectly as I listed in the first post. It used to be 110pts.
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| Lone_Pathfinder |
Mar 20 2012, 12:28 PM
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 Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 831 Joined: 12-October 11 From: Gosford, NSW Member No.: 12,005 |
While it may be a bit chaotic to get these updates, I love the fact that CB makes these changes when required.
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| maestro |
Mar 20 2012, 04:15 PM
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 Warrior Poet Group: Support: Veteran Merchant Posts: 2,064 Joined: 2-February 06 From: Canberra Member No.: 2,487 |
Think i actually much prefer the new variant! Looking forward to trying this guy out!
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| Kinsmanalike |
Mar 20 2012, 04:43 PM
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Member Group: Support Veteran Posts: 3,549 Joined: 14-February 09 Member No.: 6,960 |
Heavy grenade launcher to heavy flamer is a change I am happy with as a non pano player, I rate HGL fairly high
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| Reunion-Round |
Mar 20 2012, 06:17 PM
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 Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 12,571 Joined: 14-January 09 From: Orange NSW - Currently in North Canberra Member No.: 6,737 |
I'd prefer to fight a HGL... especially a more exepensive one.
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| Wombats |
Mar 20 2012, 06:38 PM
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Infinity Army Builder just auto updated itself last night.
Guessing this is why. Books shmooks. Thems is for fluff. -------------------- Adventures in Army Painter Soft Tone:
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| Necra-Chi |
Mar 21 2012, 09:29 PM
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Wow this is unprecedented. They didn't keep the nice Hgl option, the kept the inexplicable AVA2 they made the lieutenant option more expensive in SWC which is a disappointment. I'm not sure about the loadout. We have enough vheavy lamer TAGs and i cannot think of many situations where the DEP will be chosen over the multi HMG.
Overall I am disappointed but at least the model is WYSIWYG now -------------------- I love the smell of Dragon Fire in the morning. It smells like... Victory!
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| No.33 |
Mar 21 2012, 11:27 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 262 Joined: 5-July 09 From: Singapore Member No.: 7,785 |
The jotum losing the HGL is meant to be a balance thing apparently, they are too expensive pt-wise to have more then AVA 2, and the increased in Lt SWC is in line with other TAGs.
They ended up cheaper and with a slight stat boost, which is surely another positive for pan0. I wonder what other units will get a revision? |
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| dedhed |
Mar 22 2012, 08:06 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 4,991 Joined: 8-March 06 Member No.: 2,591 |
At least now I can run a hacker, engineer or doctor with my 2 Jotums and 8 fusiliers!
2 Jotums 6 fusiliers 1 machinist 1 Doctor 1 Palbot OR 2 Jotums 5 fusiliers 1 machinist 1 hacker 1 palbot Something like that. What do you say Sam? |
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| Wombats |
Mar 22 2012, 05:44 PM
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How many points is that?
Can I fit 20 Military Orders on the table against it? Also, Svarlarheima Sectorial has to come out sometime. So Hospitallers and Nisses...what would their basic troop be do you reckon? Probably get their own complete with skiing jackets. -------------------- Adventures in Army Painter Soft Tone:
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| MazingaZed |
Mar 22 2012, 11:34 PM
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The Jotum losing the HGL, means that the Armoured Cavalry now has a unique roll, as it was there was probably a bit to much double up there already with only points value making them a different tactical choice.
So as a Pan O player not terribly concerned, I don't understand the DEP though, the Multi HMG is going to be better in most circumstances, a panzerfaust would have been better. This post has been edited by MazingaZed: Mar 22 2012, 11:52 PM |
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| Lone_Pathfinder |
Mar 23 2012, 07:59 AM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 831 Joined: 12-October 11 From: Gosford, NSW Member No.: 12,005 |
I think the DEP is there to justify the bump on the shoulder?
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