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| Drazah |
Apr 18 2012, 09:07 AM
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Comp my list!
Archon Agonizer PGL Shadowfield Haemonculus Shattershard Venomblade 5 Warriors Blaster Venom Extra Cannon Nightshields 5 Warriors Blaster Venom Extra cannon Nightshields 10 Warriors Splintercannon Blaster Raider Nightshields Shockprow 4 Trueborn 4 Blasters Venom Extra Cannon Nightshields 4 Trueborn 4 Blasters Extras Cannon Nightshields 5 Incubi Raider Nightshields Flickerfields Shockprow TGLs Ravager Nightshields Flickerfields Shockprow Ravager Nightshields Flickerfields Shockprow I'm not too sure, it's definately effective and its basically scaled down from my no comp 1750 list. Is it too harsh to get a 2? Considering dropping the 10 man in a raider down to 10 on foot and some foot wracks if i need to. Opinions? -------------------- RETARDEDLY GOOD AT 40K "What the F**k am i supposed to do with 27 screamers and 27 flamers now?" .___. Victorian 40k Tournament reports and tidbits www.aus40k.blogspot.com |
| Kevlax |
Apr 18 2012, 09:28 AM
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If its out off 5 easy 2s
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| eathos |
Apr 18 2012, 01:10 PM
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only 3 troop choices, way to many vehicle upgrades, one under strength combat unit,
I'd say 4-5/10 maybe even a 6 depending on the missions. |
| Zidi |
Apr 18 2012, 03:21 PM
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out of 5? I think you'll get somewhere between 2.3 and 2.7 depending on how many judges there are.
The Warrior unit costs 115 points atm right? I'd swap that for a 9 man wrack squad, liqifier, Acothyst (110 points) Use the 5 extra points to get a power weapon on the haemy, drop 2 shock prows for combat drugs on the Archon, or, depending on how many points you were under 1500, drop 4 shock prows and get another incubi. This will give you a resilient troop unit, which with 3 troops only you'll need, and gives you a second combat unit, and flamers for pesky things like pathfiners/scouts with camo cloaks etc This post has been edited by Zidi: Apr 18 2012, 03:22 PM |
| Durkah |
Apr 18 2012, 04:37 PM
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8 dark lances, 10 blasters, 8 splinter cannons.
Yeah, at terracon I would give this a 1. Going off last years field. -------------------- DND = do not disturb I always play this especially while fapping. Anthony Z: "I don't understand why you take morale tests from dangerous terrain. Did you see what that rock did to Jim, quick run" "######e tourney... Better alternative to going is masturbating with sand paper" You know your rule knowledge is bad when Shaun Hogan is correcting you :P |
| Drazah |
Apr 18 2012, 06:14 PM
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8 dark lances, 10 blasters, 8 splinter cannons. Yeah, at terracon I would give this a 1. Going off last years field. 11 blasters and 9 splintercannons shaun. This post has been edited by Drazah: Apr 18 2012, 06:15 PM -------------------- RETARDEDLY GOOD AT 40K "What the F**k am i supposed to do with 27 screamers and 27 flamers now?" .___. Victorian 40k Tournament reports and tidbits www.aus40k.blogspot.com |
| The Dark Angel |
Apr 18 2012, 08:18 PM
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The Warrior unit costs 115 points atm right? I'd swap that for a 9 man wrack squad, liqifier, Acothyst (110 points) Use the 5 extra points to get a power weapon on the haemy, drop 2 shock prows for combat drugs on the Archon, or, depending on how many points you were under 1500, drop 4 shock prows and get another incubi. This will give you a resilient troop unit, which with 3 troops only you'll need, and gives you a second combat unit, and flamers for pesky things like pathfiners/scouts with camo cloaks etc Pretty much, a good list except these points so a 2.5/5 regardless of said changes. 10 man warrior units just don't work as well as other troops and with only 3 you'll need something that can stick around. And as I keep saying to every DE player who takes an Archon "SAY YES!!!!, TO DRUGS.........kiddies" Sure he 'wont benefit from a 1, 3 ot usually a 2 but re-rolls is great as well as an attack but the added chance for the incubi to start with a token so the hamey can go play with the wracks and make them better too all for 10 points. so add drugs swap venom blade to a power weapon or spend those 5 points on something swap the 10 warriors for 8 wracks with a liquifier gun and an acothyst (+1 LD) give that raider a shock prow and with 4 points give one squad of trueborn plasma grenades This post has been edited by The Dark Angel: Apr 18 2012, 08:19 PM -------------------- Hoorray!! Jeremy Vetock is our Savior. Let's hope that this just wasn't the usual "test" marine dex as in the past. |
| Blade_of_Apollo |
Apr 19 2012, 01:11 AM
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8 dark lances, 10 blasters, 8 splinter cannons. Yeah, at terracon I would give this a 1. Going off last years field. Yeah, go have a look at the ETC lists. He's basically subbed out a ravager for a raider warrior squad. -------------------- |
| Durkah |
Apr 19 2012, 01:25 AM
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Yeah, go have a look at the ETC lists. He's basically subbed out a ravager for a raider warrior squad. Yeah basically. Also a few more upgrades on vehicles here and there. Could be trimmed a bit to get another squad in there 11 blasters and 9 splintercannons shaun. Ah had some in the warrior squads. So, 8 Dark lances, 11 blasters and 9 Splinter cannons. Yep... your getting a 1. Or a zero. -------------------- DND = do not disturb I always play this especially while fapping. Anthony Z: "I don't understand why you take morale tests from dangerous terrain. Did you see what that rock did to Jim, quick run" "######e tourney... Better alternative to going is masturbating with sand paper" You know your rule knowledge is bad when Shaun Hogan is correcting you :P |
| Drazah |
Apr 19 2012, 10:44 AM
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Yeah basically. Also a few more upgrades on vehicles here and there. Could be trimmed a bit to get another squad in there Ah had some in the warrior squads. So, 8 Dark lances, 11 blasters and 9 Splinter cannons. Yep... your getting a 1. Or a zero. I'll have to tone it down a little methinks.... 75pts of Mandrakes sounds like a plan. -------------------- RETARDEDLY GOOD AT 40K "What the F**k am i supposed to do with 27 screamers and 27 flamers now?" .___. Victorian 40k Tournament reports and tidbits www.aus40k.blogspot.com |
| lijosahn |
Apr 19 2012, 10:48 AM
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| Drazah |
Apr 20 2012, 07:19 AM
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lol, those mandrakes at arc fooled no-one. Actually they were your saving grace to get you the draw against me. Hahaha thats the one game ever they've done something! Hide in a builfing till turn 5 then contest! -------------------- RETARDEDLY GOOD AT 40K "What the F**k am i supposed to do with 27 screamers and 27 flamers now?" .___. Victorian 40k Tournament reports and tidbits www.aus40k.blogspot.com |
| Durkah |
Apr 21 2012, 12:56 AM
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Yeah... Mandrakes won't help this list.
-------------------- DND = do not disturb I always play this especially while fapping. Anthony Z: "I don't understand why you take morale tests from dangerous terrain. Did you see what that rock did to Jim, quick run" "######e tourney... Better alternative to going is masturbating with sand paper" You know your rule knowledge is bad when Shaun Hogan is correcting you :P |
| Zidi |
Apr 21 2012, 01:21 AM
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| Durkah |
Apr 21 2012, 01:31 AM
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*wants to stab comp in the face* Lists like this got through cancon without dropping below 2's. Some comp systems work. Some don't. I hate people who go "but it got this at this tournament." That's nice. Comp should be used to judge lists strengths against other lists that play at the tournament. Not a general feel on what the list should score. As I said in a previous statement, this list when compared to what people were running last year at the event... This will get a 0 or a 1. The worst list I came up against was something like 100 orc boys + 1 warboss + 1 mek with custom force field with 2 trucks, battle wagon and a few killer kans. That would have a hard time against this list. -------------------- DND = do not disturb I always play this especially while fapping. Anthony Z: "I don't understand why you take morale tests from dangerous terrain. Did you see what that rock did to Jim, quick run" "######e tourney... Better alternative to going is masturbating with sand paper" You know your rule knowledge is bad when Shaun Hogan is correcting you :P |
| Drazah |
Apr 21 2012, 08:39 PM
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Member ![]() Group: Veteran Members Posts: 2,194 Joined: 22-March 09 From: Melbourne Member No.: 7,175 |
Some comp systems work. Some don't. I hate people who go "but it got this at this tournament." That's nice. Comp should be used to judge lists strengths against other lists that play at the tournament. Not a general feel on what the list should score. As I said in a previous statement, this list when compared to what people were running last year at the event... This will get a 0 or a 1. The worst list I came up against was something like 100 orc boys + 1 warboss + 1 mek with custom force field with 2 trucks, battle wagon and a few killer kans. That would have a hard time against this list. Wow...yeah...lol I never said it was a soft list, I was more looking for opinions on what its worth. I might run beasts instead, take something a little different. Could sub out the incubi and archon for a big beast unit and baron to give them stealth... Something along the lines of... 5 beastmasters 6 razorwing 1 clawed fiend 2 kymerae + Baron about the same cost as Archon and the incubi as well as having one less lance. Likely to push it up to a 2? Opinions? -------------------- RETARDEDLY GOOD AT 40K "What the F**k am i supposed to do with 27 screamers and 27 flamers now?" .___. Victorian 40k Tournament reports and tidbits www.aus40k.blogspot.com |
| Drazah |
Apr 21 2012, 08:42 PM
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Yeah... Mandrakes won't help this list. Also i'm sigging this, because it's ironic -------------------- RETARDEDLY GOOD AT 40K "What the F**k am i supposed to do with 27 screamers and 27 flamers now?" .___. Victorian 40k Tournament reports and tidbits www.aus40k.blogspot.com |
| Zidi |
Apr 22 2012, 12:45 AM
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Lol i rate the beast unit with the baron as far nastier then incubi wwith an archon
I've been getting comp hit for running 6 Razorwings, 10 Kymarae. Yours is softer then that though. |
| Drazah |
Apr 22 2012, 12:54 AM
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Lol i rate the beast unit with the baron as far nastier then incubi wwith an archon I've been getting comp hit for running 6 Razorwings, 10 Kymarae. Yours is softer then that though. Shh, nobody in VIC runs beasts, I can still get away with it But i dont know about SA... -------------------- RETARDEDLY GOOD AT 40K "What the F**k am i supposed to do with 27 screamers and 27 flamers now?" .___. Victorian 40k Tournament reports and tidbits www.aus40k.blogspot.com |
| Durkah |
Apr 22 2012, 01:16 PM
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Beasts won't help this list either.
Get a webway portal, drop 2 venoms + blasters / a ravager. That way if you take your beast spam mc spam you can come out of the portal. -------------------- DND = do not disturb I always play this especially while fapping. Anthony Z: "I don't understand why you take morale tests from dangerous terrain. Did you see what that rock did to Jim, quick run" "######e tourney... Better alternative to going is masturbating with sand paper" You know your rule knowledge is bad when Shaun Hogan is correcting you :P |
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