 IA for Tau, General conceses |
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| IA for Tau, General conceses |
| Davros |
 Aug 8 2012, 04:25 PM
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Ok i saw (and read) the disscussion on IA in the other tread. basicly what i got from that is that people don't like things that they don't know about. But are generaly ok to play with it if the person with the IA isn't a dick. Also they pretty much agree that there can be no blanket statment that says all IA is good. Basicaly a unit by unit say.
Now i would like to ask about some units that i want to run with my Tau because they make the way i want to run my tau so much easier. The units in question are that Tau Tetra, and the remote sensor tower. Now for those that don't know these units are basicly there to markerlight things and gives the same buffs as a pathfinder fish. and they are as easy to pop as a venom (actually easier no ff) What i am asking is are most people happy playing against these units in a game? |
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| Da Smas |
Aug 8 2012, 04:42 PM
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If it has a 40k stamp... I dont care if its a manta...
Most people find it an issue I would think as its 'easier' to get access to the 'standard' armies. -------------------- thats what tzeentch wants you to think
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| Chaplain_Fortis |
Aug 8 2012, 04:51 PM
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It's really irrelevant what the people here say about it. You haven't given us the details to determine if it's good or not. The people here aren't likely to be the people you have to convince (that would be your casual group or local TOs). I'd want to have a good read of it and play against it a couple of times before I knew if it was any good or not.
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| Thorn |
Aug 8 2012, 05:54 PM
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Our LGG has open slather on IA. We're model hogs so it makes sense. Some tournys will allow them some wont.
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| Davros |
Aug 8 2012, 05:56 PM
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Ok so the tetra has a heavy 4 markerlight is 10/10/10 with 2hp, fast open top skimmer. Also can alow deepstriking units to re-roll scatter. 50 points (can't have missiles)
Sensor tower has a twin linked marker light 10/10/10 2hp imobile building. Also can alow deepstriking units to re-roll scatter, and alows one unit within 6 inc to treat its guns as twin linked. 40points Basicly i want my tau to be a more defencive based element with all my vehicle's with max missiles This post has been edited by Davros: Aug 8 2012, 05:59 PM |
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| Asuryan |
Aug 8 2012, 07:30 PM
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From basic stats seems ok, the sensor tower seems like a Tau aegis line and gives a bonus to deep striking units not unlike a skyshield landing pad.
As a relativily new eldar player it seems strange to take a skyshield landing pad or aegis defense line for a fortification and a quad gun and not have something more species related to the technology accessible to the races. Unless the IA units are really broken as some seem to be include them. You'll get ten experts replying and probably ten different views so unless it is a real game changer I don't think people will mind that much. Probably rose colored view of the world  |
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| J.D.Entropy |
Aug 8 2012, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(Davros @ Aug 8 2012, 04:25 PM)  Ok i saw (and read) the disscussion on IA in the other tread. basicly what i got from that is that people don't like things that they don't know about. Opinion is probably not as skewed as you might believe. If you dont own every codex and study up in prep for tournaments or leagues, I fail to see how running FW stiff is any different to playing codices your mates/gaming group dont play often. I'm forever having to say "it does that? OK, I'll take your word for it" against most of them anyway, so FW is no different to me. -------------------- "I dont want to hear any more talk about "Strategy". We chop a hole. The rest follows"
Erich Ludendorff on the eve of the Kaiserschlacht offensive, 1918. "σαρκάζειν: meaning "to tear flesh, gnash the teeth, speak bitterly". "Nobody ever claimed that his grasp of tactics was greater than it absolutely had to be. If "the hammer" failed, his response was to simply send for a bigger hammer" "This thread is like peeking through the keyhole of the back door to an abbatoir. I keep seeing hints and pieces of something terrible going on beyond, enough to put together an awful, unsettling picture." |
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| Chaplain_Fortis |
Aug 8 2012, 08:04 PM
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They seem pretty efficient to me, but probably ok.
Nice soapbox JD. I was wondering how long it would take you to come in and make the same point again... -------------------- "shirty, the slightly aggressive bear"
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| J.D.Entropy |
Aug 8 2012, 08:08 PM
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as opposed to making no point whatsoever.
-------------------- "I dont want to hear any more talk about "Strategy". We chop a hole. The rest follows"
Erich Ludendorff on the eve of the Kaiserschlacht offensive, 1918. "σαρκάζειν: meaning "to tear flesh, gnash the teeth, speak bitterly". "Nobody ever claimed that his grasp of tactics was greater than it absolutely had to be. If "the hammer" failed, his response was to simply send for a bigger hammer" "This thread is like peeking through the keyhole of the back door to an abbatoir. I keep seeing hints and pieces of something terrible going on beyond, enough to put together an awful, unsettling picture." |
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| Chaplain_Fortis |
Aug 8 2012, 08:15 PM
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Now about ##### Group: Veteran Members Posts: 1,008,370 Joined: 10-January 08 From: Melbourne Member No.: 4,901 |
Nice. 8/10
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| Sarge.au |
Aug 8 2012, 09:45 PM
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Just something to add, Remoras are great too, even if you don't have the models, just grab a drone, whack some burst cannons on and make some wings, converted up.
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| jimjimjimmyjim |
Aug 9 2012, 10:55 PM
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where are you reading the reroll scatter?
i use these all the time and all i have found is they allow you to twin link one unit per sensor tower within 6" of the tower and they have a twin linked marker light on them at BS3. armour is 10/10/10 with 2HP, they are only allowed 0-1 per army and must be taken as a troop choice but cannot be taken as a compulsory troop choice. im not certain where you got the reroll scatter from tho, are you sure you havent confused the path finders devil fish with the sensor towers? my opponents never cry wolf when i use them, most players believe its a buff that tau really need, i tend to take 1 or 2 of them, with an aegis line and quad gun, i use R'alai and his drones as my HQ most of the time with 2 or crisis suits with plasma rifle and missile pods, multi tracker and hw target lock floating around one of the sensor towers and near the other tower a squad of fire warriors or a hammerhead depending on the points size of the game im playing. hope my input helps your decisions...  |
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| jimjimjimmyjim |
Aug 10 2012, 10:17 AM
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also you will find there is a new tau tetra in the new aeronautica book so i would suggest against using them until you have seen the new rules for them, tho the book also says you can actually use them in standard 40k games now, so its now official without any doubt!
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| Mousemuffins |
Aug 12 2012, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(jimjimjimmyjim @ Aug 9 2012, 10:55 PM) where are you reading the reroll scatter? i use these all the time and all i have found is they allow you to twin link one unit per sensor tower within 6" of the tower and they have a twin linked marker light on them at BS3. armour is 10/10/10 with 2HP, they are only allowed 0-1 per army and must be taken as a troop choice but cannot be taken as a compulsory troop choice. im not certain where you got the reroll scatter from tho, are you sure you havent confused the path finders devil fish with the sensor towers? my opponents never cry wolf when i use them, most players believe its a buff that tau really need, i tend to take 1 or 2 of them, with an aegis line and quad gun, i use R'alai and his drones as my HQ most of the time with 2 or crisis suits with plasma rifle and missile pods, multi tracker and hw target lock floating around one of the sensor towers and near the other tower a squad of fire warriors or a hammerhead depending on the points size of the game im playing. hope my input helps your decisions...  ? |
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| Turbo_mmx |
Aug 12 2012, 11:02 AM
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They are 0-1 units per army. But you can take more than 1 as a single choice. Think 1-3 if i remember right
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| jimjimjimmyjim |
Aug 12 2012, 11:57 AM
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yes that correct, all i was trying to say was they arent that great, its nice for a twin marker light and twin linking but dont do much else, and tend to die early
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| Mousemuffins |
Aug 12 2012, 01:07 PM
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Braaaaaiiinnnnss Group: Veteran Members Posts: 1,827 Joined: 5-December 05 Member No.: 2,278 |
Ah. okay. makes more sense. Mind you, 40pts seems quite decent and usable. I'd try them out.
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| Blackhearts Reaver |
Aug 12 2012, 01:40 PM
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Where are the latest rules for the Tetra's?
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| jimjimjimmyjim |
Aug 12 2012, 02:15 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 2,592 Joined: 13-April 11 Member No.: 11,099 |
Sorry my fault I got confused between the tetra and the new paranha in IA:A
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| jimjimjimmyjim |
Aug 12 2012, 02:17 PM
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Member Group: Veteran Members Posts: 2,592 Joined: 13-April 11 Member No.: 11,099 |
Not sure about the tetra tho I haven't tried them. What are your observations about them?
It looks like a better choice than a path finders squad! |
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