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post Aug 17 2006, 10:58 PM
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Heres the list ive been thinking about, not sure really what to do with the equipment on my duke.

All characters have Knights Vow.

Duke @266
Lance
Armor of Agliuf
Virtue of confidence
Mantle of damsel elena
Sword of might
Gauntlet of the duel
-Mounted on Royal Peg


Paladin @80
Lance, shield, Barded Warhorse

Paladin @80
Lance, shield, Barded warhorse

Paladin @80
Lance, shield, barded warhorse

Paladin @74
BSB, barded warhorse

11 Knights of the Realm @ 313
F/C
Warbanner

11 Knights of the Realm @288
F/C

11 Knights of the Realm @288
F/C

11 Knights of the Realm @280
Stan/champion

4 Pegasus Knights @250
F/C

4 Pegasus Knights @250
F/C

Totals
2249
2 Dispel Dice
2 Power Dice
7 Deployments
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post Aug 17 2006, 11:57 PM
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Shit happens when you party with bretonians.


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post Aug 18 2006, 11:08 AM
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id prefer your list if you took the lord of the peg, wack him in a unit of KoR, drop one of the naked paladins and wizard ...


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post Aug 18 2006, 03:48 PM
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Would the following still be considered a valid lance formation?

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KKK

KKK

KDK

KDK

KPP

KPP



where:



K           D           PP

K = Knight  D = Damsel  PP = Pegasus

on the off chance it is, must be something to consider in 7th ed with US4 models getting lookout sir in units.
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post Aug 19 2006, 02:58 AM
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oom sorry but that diagram makes no sence to me... are the peg knights in the same unit as the koR?

anywho jesse imo u badly need a level 1 mage with 2 scrolls in order to survive magic for a turn or 2 untill ur peg knights and lord sweep the mages of the board, w/o the 2 scrolls and dispel dice chances are u wont have any peg knights left.

Another idea is drop 1 unit of peg knights and convert one unit of KoR into grail knights (id say questing but not to sure how good they are in 7th ed)

But suprisingly enough this list is very un-cheesy :shock: Where are the 4 units of peg knights with the 2 trebuches and max bowmen.


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post Aug 19 2006, 10:52 AM
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Uncheesey? The army consists of 8 peg riders (9 including the general) and 44 knights! Pretty unimaginative and dull IMO - basically move on first turn and then charge. The only slight saving grace is the lack of magic defence, but given you'll be in combat by turn two that won't hurt much. I'd drop some knights and a unit of peg riders to add in some peasant bowmen and yeomen, and maybe some M@As, and drop a paladin for a scroll caddy.


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post Aug 20 2006, 07:49 PM
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slannesh magic would dominate this list...


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post Aug 20 2006, 09:10 PM
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I think any magic would dominate this list and is probably to much of a weaknes.
i could drop a peg and a paladin and take a damsel with 2 scrolls
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post Aug 20 2006, 10:47 PM
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I think 8 is a more optimum number for your knights than 11. I would definitly drop a palidan make some of those units 8 strong to fit in the damsel.


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post Aug 20 2006, 11:54 PM
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I was thinking of splitting the knights into 5 stacks of 9, would give me more flexibility
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post Aug 21 2006, 09:56 AM
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Any more than 1 unit of peg knights is cheese.

The lack of magic doesnt matter.

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post Aug 21 2006, 06:52 PM
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What a boring list. I'm beginning to feel like Bret players are becoming very unimaginitive and uncapable generals.


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post Aug 21 2006, 09:55 PM
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eh, i can consider army list construction as important as generals skill.

jimmy: lots of knights is exciting to me
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post Aug 21 2006, 10:42 PM
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Urgh under 6th...under 7th double Urgh.

Hard as an on heat bull rhinox's todger and just as unpleasant to be rodgered by.

The lack of magic defence is about the only reason I would not automatically consider boycotting playing against this list. BUT even then you just won't need the same magic defense with the changes to the magic system in 7th and using a turn 1-2 combat army. Forget it. I am boycotting this sort of crap in 7th.

If this is the sort of crap which is becoming acceptable then you better be prepared for some serious abuse buddy if you bring this sort of turd to a tourney.

:MAD: :evil:

Also who cares if slaaneshi magic would own this? If you don't have slaaneshi magic then I mean what the fuck... Slaaneshi magic can own many an army...it's a bit like saying '4 cannons and 2 organ guns would own this'...If you don't have it then you are still screwed.
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post Aug 21 2006, 10:57 PM
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Must admit I'd be reluctant to play against it in a friendly game. It's just so one dimensional.

There's nothing stopping you from going knight heavy if that's what you like. But at least balance it out a bit. Maybe take 3-4 blocks of 8 knights and a unit pf peg knights and spend the rest of the points on some bowmen, a trebuchet yeomen and a unit or two of men at arms. Bretonnians have some fun units that aren't knights so give them a shot. They look great too. It will be a lot more enjoyable to paint up and play with, you'll become a better general and people will actually enjoy playing against you. tongue.gif


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post Aug 21 2006, 11:07 PM
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@gobsmack So i should take a soft list? i think army construction is important and i get annoyed hwen people take a soft list just to avoid hurting peoples feelings.

yeah i am thinking of taking it to a few tournes, if you dont like it, thats what i think comp score is for.

Boycotting? thats just lame

@mikecro: i made this list cos i wanted all knights, in terms of gaming and modelling i find a knight army very interesting.
tho i do understand where you are coming from, and i respect that you at least provided some constructive criticism
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post Aug 22 2006, 12:12 PM
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looooooooool ... okay lads lets take some deep breathes ...

in ..... and out

in ..... and out

ok, does everyone feel better now??


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:-P

Mikecro hit the nail on the head.
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lol geez this list isnt that hard.... honestly imo if u take a trubuchet and peasant units whilst droping 1 peg rider unit the list becomes harder and besides the man said he wanted an all knight army. Its like telling someone who wants to make a whole horde gobo army ur list is to one dimensional put some orcs in there....

... but saying that the list is a tad one dimensional jay heres imo on how u can change this list to keep it entire knightly and not *cheesy*

drop 1 unit of peg riders demote 1 unit of realm to erant with the erant baner and upgrade 1 unit to grail. reduce numbers down to 9 models strong drop one pally and take 1 damsel with 2 scrolls as well as giving remaining pallys some magic items.

Thar u got a slightly less dimensional army


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post Aug 22 2006, 03:17 PM
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maybe most people here should cry more to the company that produces the army books? i think youd have a better chance of them caring...

Also jay i agree with sabi, the grail knights will make a nice centre piece for the army and the 2 scrolls and extra dispell dice will keep those pegasus riders nice and comfy whereas the extra paladin wont be worth much if he dies in turn 1 or two.


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