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| ArchonCryx |
Dec 3 2007, 01:32 PM
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Member Group: Support Veteran Posts: 11,405 Joined: 19-November 04 From: Darlinghurst: Where the Hoes be Member No.: 76 |
At last it has happened.
Sydney is getting a premier hobbyist event! And we are creating an event to decide the "Australasian High Lord of Terra" (which might be called a "40K champion" (or should that be chumpion After the dissappointment of this year's GT, added to the lack of a KF in Sydney, with fond memories of earlier Sydney GTs that attracted hobbyists from all over, quite a few of us have been beavering away in secret to rectify this lack. Now we're ready to announce, and get this ball rolling! This isn't just a Cryx special, although I shall be your head TO on the day, it's a group effort including input from many of Sydney's, and Australia's, top hobbyists. Especially Sydney's, at least, so far! So what is "Lords of Terra"? It's a 40K tournament to try and determine Australia and NZ's top hobbyist! To put Sydney back on the map in terms of premier 40K Hobby events! In the absence of a Sydney GT this year, it also seeks to provide a premier hobbyist event for the NSW 40K gaming community. Lords of Terra quick summary: When: 28/29th June 2008. 9 am start. 5 round format (allows for earlier finish on Sunday for travel). Where: North Sydney, NSW Cost: $50 (unless we can make it cheaper) Comp: 2000pt legal army with decent core that is fun to play against: Army comp simplified to peer. Asking players to be a bit more critical than usual because this should be the cream of the top, many of these armies are going to be excellent, so we need to differntiate. Sports will also be peer, probably checklist of 5 + rating out of 5 or similar. Scoring: 50% Battle, 20% Painting & Modelling, 20% Army Composition, and 10% Sports. Format: Run as a single event, both invitees and Open draw players vie in the usual Swiss-round format. Invitees are eligible for seperate awards (which will hopefully all be trophies of some description) as well as contesting the overall tournament placings. In the first round and as much as possible in rounds 1,2 and 3, invitees will be matched against invitees, but on day two it will be straight swiss ordering excluding double-ups. Prize Categories: NSW Lord of Terra 1st Overall 2nd, 3rd overall Blessed Hands of the Emperor Painting/Modelling: 1st, 2nd, 3rd painting Favoured of his Children Player's Choice The High Lord of Saints Best Sport Buckets of Guts Best composed army Emperor's Fanatic Best General (outside Overall, ties split by comp) Invitee main trophy: The Australasian High Lord of Terra Best overall performance by an invitee. SInce the invbitees are the cream of Aussie gaming it seems likely the same player will take both overall prizes, however what a fantastic set-uyp for a lifelong grudge if one of the open draw players beat all the invited folk to the top spot! In this case the trophy would go to next higest placegetter who IS an invitee. Other prizes to be announced as availability/numbers become apparant and allow. As much as possible all major categories will be awarded top 3. Many awards will not allow double-ups on prizes. Trophies to be awarded for the top categories. I like to spread the love, and once I've covered all our costs, the rest of the entry pool goes right back into prize support. General philosophy is one prize per place getter. More ppl walk away with prizes = good, right? Paint criteria: To be judged by our top quality painting judges (That's right, plural!). Army List submission: due by Friday 20th Of June to allow time for complex marking procedure. We're inviting over 100 players from across Australia/NZ who have finished in the top 3 in a tourny (30 players or more), top 10% (12-29), or who are on the top twenty for Sports/Painting/or Comp rankings but without a podium finish. We would be delighted if all invited players were able to attend, we can fit you all, and that would definitely make it a rip-snorter! There will also be an "open event," the "Aspirant Lords of Terra" open to everyone, to allow for locals/road-trippers to get more involved as well. Placing in the Aspirants allows qualification for the Lords of Terra the following year (yes, these are supposed to be annual events). More details for this will be forthcoming. The "Lords of Terra" (Invitational event) will be available to players by invitation only. "Uh-oh, does invitational mean I need to be well known to play?**" Not at all, we have a very transparent system to work out our invitees: It's no mystery at all, this is a championship. To qualify, you need a podium finish. Simple. In more detail, you need to have received a top 3 (podium) OVERALL finish at any 1 event with 30 players or more in the period from January 1st to December 31st 2007. We also use Mark Croxford's excellent ranking system, particularly in the non overall categories, to ensure the top ten Sportsmen, Painters, and Army composers also get to attend. This is a championship, but it's also a celebration of the Hobby, so all top hobby performers are very welcome. We're considering asking the top 3 overalls from Arcanacon 2008, Cancon 2008, Terracon 2008, and several other events, probably would add NZ NatCon and Conquest to those as well, in the lead up. Part of the reason for this thread is to discuss preferences amongst players, we'd especially like to hear from those top hobbyists. What do they need to entice them to a well-run event? We'll be bending over backwards to sort out more obvious issues such as terrain. Creating a mixture of missions, that encourage a balanced army, makes you think, without being too "fiddly" or unbalanced. And since we'll be inviting players from across the nation/Tasman, the "Aspirant Lords of Terra" event caters to those like me, who'd still like to join in on what should be an excellent vibe, with a real genuine hobbyist feel, as well as our most competitive gamers battling it out. ** - this is not at all meant to denigrate other systems of invitational. At all. It's just that not every city has someone with Ghetti's touch, unfortuantly. You Melborunites also get Andrew Long! So in lieu of that level of talent, we came up with this idea. The "Aspirant Lords of Terra" competition will be no sideshow or after thought, but a full blown tourny with full prize support (And those of you who have attended my tournies before know when I say "full prize support" I really mean it, my ambition is to spread the plastic prize-love as much as possible, thanks to GW as always.) Saturday night: We hope to provide a forum for interstate/international challenges if we get appropriate & sufficient numbers/interest. We'd also like to encourage any who wish to create new traditions, any rivalaries that you think need to be challenged? Let us know. "NSW vs the Mexicans" might be a good place to try to start. Or what about "State of Origins". And who could resist some sort of test series Oz Vs NZ? Assault on Planet Bledisloe? Numbers: We hope to have over 40 or 50 players in the Main event, but have room for triple that, so "Aspirants of Terra" can be as large if not larger. In short, we have room for the numbers. So come one, come all! The venue is currently set to be the excellent North Sydney ANZAC Club (Site of this years GT, DogCon, Gathering of Might, and other events). Excellent because it's good value with a decent amount of space to accomodate over 100 gamers, and reasonable in-house facilities including the essential Bar. It's within easy striking distance of accomodation strips at St Leonards/Artarmon as well as the North Shore, and there's plenty of locals to assist with city travel - including airport pickups/drop off and so on. We plan on making our visitors welcome because we'll be delighted to see them! *Comp in more detail. Your army is marked 3 times. (EDIT: I am rejigging the comp system and will likely opt for a far simpler comp solution, stay tuned.) 1) (Now simplified) Peer comp. Your peers will get to mark your army out of 10 for each round played. Strong guidance for marking philosophy will be provided - expect some tick/flick and then a score out of x for general composition score. Any outlying scores (apparant snipes or boosts) shall be queried. More details to follow, feel free to make your impressions known here! Invites shall be going out to players Real Soon Now ! Well, at least we have lists of ionvitees on the other threads now (see "The 118") Please help us make this a fun event and get 40K rocking in Sydney town once more. Happy for feedback but as we get closer to the date we are firming up the exact format which wont be tinkered with too close to the event allowing us to concentrate on important stuff like prizes. $50 entry , Please email or PM me to notiify of payment, and I shall confirm by putting you on the paid list. This post has been edited by ArchonCryx: May 25 2009, 08:10 PM -------------------- Official ACADEMIC LEMMING Lords of Terra 2013 will run 20th & 21st July, 2013 Venue Blacktown Bowl 6th Edition NO COMP!!!!! 1500pts, NO IA armies but "40K approved" units are allowed- may include allies and/or a fortification as per rules 50% Battle! (Help make "Best General" Prize redundant...) It's high time someone other than a Queenslander or Kiwi took the trophy away from NSW... "...not scared of losing but prefer to keep humiliation to a minimum." -Trigger Happy |
| Mono |
Dec 9 2007, 05:00 PM
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Alex if you get the numbers and have the funds it may be an idea to have a bonus prize as a cross over between the two events, for example have a TO's and support team's choice award for the army that scored highest in comp and painting between the invitational and allcomers events.
The event sounds good so I am looking at signing onto the allcomers event as I don't qualify for the main event and this increases my chances of doing well. -------------------- Fortune Cookie Wisdom: Don't use a hatchet to remove a fly from the forehead of your friend
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| rat of vengence |
Dec 29 2007, 05:42 PM
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Hey Alex. I am interested in more info on the aspirants tourny, I was away in Europe all year and so didn't get to any tournies at all.
Ta, Dave -------------------- I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man...
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| ArchonCryx |
Jan 11 2008, 10:44 AM
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Member Group: Support Veteran Posts: 11,405 Joined: 19-November 04 From: Darlinghurst: Where the Hoes be Member No.: 76 |
RoV - you'd be very welcome. There's plenty of other local tournys to sink your teeth into in the meantime too, such as Leviathon in April. The monthly Good Games trournies. There's a Feburary (?, maybe March) tourny at Castle Hill. Plenty of 40K!
That's at least 4 people greatly interested in the Aspirants and still more than 6 months to go. Rest assured it will happen but don't expect a great deal of details (apart from relevant LoT onfo that ports across) until March or April. -------------------- Official ACADEMIC LEMMING Lords of Terra 2013 will run 20th & 21st July, 2013 Venue Blacktown Bowl 6th Edition NO COMP!!!!! 1500pts, NO IA armies but "40K approved" units are allowed- may include allies and/or a fortification as per rules 50% Battle! (Help make "Best General" Prize redundant...) It's high time someone other than a Queenslander or Kiwi took the trophy away from NSW... "...not scared of losing but prefer to keep humiliation to a minimum." -Trigger Happy |
| MarkC |
Jan 11 2008, 04:00 PM
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Member Group: Support Veteran Posts: 3,497 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Central Coast, NSW Member No.: 1,849 |
There's plenty of other local tournys to sink your teeth into in the meantime too, such as Leviathon in April. The monthly Good Games trournies. There's a Feburary (?, maybe March) tourny at Castle Hill. Plenty of 40K! I'm aware of the Clash of the Titans in Cherrybrook (about 10 mins from Hornsby) on Feb 16/17. There seems to be at least one 40K event a month in Sydney and surrounds. Sometimes there are several events on the same weekend so you have a choice! (Eg, Cryx Cup V, Gosford Shield and C-4 are all running this Saturday; Leviathon and Battle in the Vines are both on April 19th/20th). Check out the Tournament Calendar and also keep an eye on White Dwarf. Regards Mark C -------------------- Playing:
(FoW) Australian Rifle Company (EW/MW): 1750+ pts mainly painted (FoW) Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts mainly painted (FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1600 pts mainly painted Packed away: (40K) Dark Angels / Space Marines: 5300+ pts mainly painted; Eldar: 2300+ pts partly painted (WFB) Dwarfs: 2600+ pts painted |
| rat of vengence |
Jan 12 2008, 12:44 AM
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Thanks guys. Unfortunately I am moving house this Saturday, so no tourney for me...
But Clash of the Titans sounds great. I helped out a couple of years ago, but this time I will be gaming! RoV -------------------- I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man...
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| dvaston |
Mar 31 2008, 03:38 PM
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Sounds good to me.
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| Mono |
Apr 25 2008, 09:01 PM
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Will there be a list of missions that we will possibly play posted befoer lists are due or will they only by revealed on the day?
-------------------- Fortune Cookie Wisdom: Don't use a hatchet to remove a fly from the forehead of your friend
My Painting Diary or Can I Paint a New Army for Every Tournament This Year, the answer is hell no, but I gave it a good bash |
| ArchonCryx |
May 1 2008, 11:00 AM
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Member Group: Support Veteran Posts: 11,405 Joined: 19-November 04 From: Darlinghurst: Where the Hoes be Member No.: 76 |
Missions will only be revealed upon acceptance of lists. There's a good chance we won't release them until the day. If we do decide to, we'll hold off on sending out the missions until the vast majority of lists are finalised and a penalty applied to lists accepted after the first player packs are released.
They will be fairly simple, or at least easy to understand, but will be more than just a few selected missions from the book. Both tournaments will use the same missions. Missions will be posted on Wau only after the event. This post has been edited by ArchonCryx: May 1 2008, 01:13 PM -------------------- Official ACADEMIC LEMMING Lords of Terra 2013 will run 20th & 21st July, 2013 Venue Blacktown Bowl 6th Edition NO COMP!!!!! 1500pts, NO IA armies but "40K approved" units are allowed- may include allies and/or a fortification as per rules 50% Battle! (Help make "Best General" Prize redundant...) It's high time someone other than a Queenslander or Kiwi took the trophy away from NSW... "...not scared of losing but prefer to keep humiliation to a minimum." -Trigger Happy |
| killermike |
May 1 2008, 01:36 PM
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When is the army lists due by? And where do we send it?
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| Firefox |
May 1 2008, 03:06 PM
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Missions will only be revealed upon acceptance of lists. There's a good chance we won't release them until the day. If we do decide to, we'll hold off on sending out the missions until the vast majority of lists are finalised and a penalty applied to lists accepted after the first player packs are released. They will be fairly simple, or at least easy to understand, but will be more than just a few selected missions from the book. Both tournaments will use the same missions. Missions will be posted on Wau only after the event. Hi Mate, I thought CANCON this year had some of the best missions I have seen in a tourny and suitable for more experienced players. Given there were 8 you should be able to find a few that may suit your requirements. All the best. -------------------- Founding and Active Member of NSW Northern Knights Wargaming Club
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| ArchonCryx |
May 1 2008, 03:25 PM
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Member Group: Support Veteran Posts: 11,405 Joined: 19-November 04 From: Darlinghurst: Where the Hoes be Member No.: 76 |
Killermike -
at this stage Im hoping to receive your lists by Friday 21st of June. Ill make an official announcement tieing up the final loose ends no later than Tuesday next week. Firefox - Good idea, and I'm already on it - Jason and I worked on those missions together since mid last year, so indeed I am familiar and will be looking at several of those missions closely in my selections. -------------------- Official ACADEMIC LEMMING Lords of Terra 2013 will run 20th & 21st July, 2013 Venue Blacktown Bowl 6th Edition NO COMP!!!!! 1500pts, NO IA armies but "40K approved" units are allowed- may include allies and/or a fortification as per rules 50% Battle! (Help make "Best General" Prize redundant...) It's high time someone other than a Queenslander or Kiwi took the trophy away from NSW... "...not scared of losing but prefer to keep humiliation to a minimum." -Trigger Happy |
| mumbler |
May 3 2008, 08:42 PM
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hi there,
a few of my friends and i are interested in going into the aspirant category, since we missed out on going to cancon. so just have a few odd questions then before we decide. will you allow forge-world lists (since two of us has armies based on the forge-world list) and will you allow forge-world stuff to be used? ie flyers, tanks? i have elysians and would like to use my flyers as well. thanks in advance. |
| Lupin |
May 15 2008, 06:21 AM
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Hi ArchonCryx,
Any more development on comp? The reasononing is, may have to adjust what models need to be painted. Regards L |
| MarkC |
May 22 2008, 10:07 PM
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Check out the web site http://lordsofterra.com for the recent updates. In particular
In terms of Comp there are no mandatory requirements (well apart from 1 HQ and 2 troop choices). You could take two minimum sized troop units, but as noted above this would put you at a disadvantage in two of the missions. You could still win the missions, but you wouldn't be able to get the maximum points for the mission. Regards Mark C -------------------- Playing:
(FoW) Australian Rifle Company (EW/MW): 1750+ pts mainly painted (FoW) Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts mainly painted (FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1600 pts mainly painted Packed away: (40K) Dark Angels / Space Marines: 5300+ pts mainly painted; Eldar: 2300+ pts partly painted (WFB) Dwarfs: 2600+ pts painted |
| Lonestar |
May 22 2008, 10:35 PM
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Decent Core of Troops - Two of the missions will have only troops counting as scoring units. In these two missions you will need at least 4 units of troops to be able to score the maximum points for the mission. Mark C Um, my army only has 3 troop units, 30 grey knights. Once again, disadvantaged before a die is even roll -------------------- "Don't bully because you end up getting hurt bad." - The Rat
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| Llews |
May 23 2008, 09:09 AM
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And those coming from interstate on the sat morning are going to have a hard time making rego - the only flight i could get at the appropriate time was going to be a close call before the change.
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| MarkC |
May 23 2008, 09:33 AM
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Member Group: Support Veteran Posts: 3,497 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Central Coast, NSW Member No.: 1,849 |
And those coming from interstate on the sat morning are going to have a hard time making rego - the only flight i could get at the appropriate time was going to be a close call before the change. We plan to have a draw sorted out the night before the event, but the 15 mins registration is so we can confirm that people have actually turned up. We've seen events in the past where people will buy tickets and just not turn up, or even not buy tickets and turn up on the day wanting to pay. Interstate travelers are a slightly different case. If you've booked flights and accommodation we can safely assume that you will actually turn up on the day (barring family/medical emergencies). In your case in particular I know that you sent Alex a PM about two weeks ago letting us know that you expect to be at the venue at 9:00am but can't guarantee it. The mission for Game 1 is a standard 4th edition mission so you should be able to turn up at the event and just start playing. Regards Mark C -------------------- Playing:
(FoW) Australian Rifle Company (EW/MW): 1750+ pts mainly painted (FoW) Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts mainly painted (FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1600 pts mainly painted Packed away: (40K) Dark Angels / Space Marines: 5300+ pts mainly painted; Eldar: 2300+ pts partly painted (WFB) Dwarfs: 2600+ pts painted |
| MarkC |
May 23 2008, 02:06 PM
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Member Group: Support Veteran Posts: 3,497 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Central Coast, NSW Member No.: 1,849 |
Um, my army only has 3 troop units, 30 grey knights. Once again, disadvantaged before a die is even roll True, but not massively disadvantaged. With 3 scoring units you'll still be able to get high battle points from those two missions where only troops count as scoring (there are secondary objectives as well). You will also still be capable of getting 20/20 from the other three missions. Without having the scoring details in front of me, your army should still be capable of scoring around 95/100 battle points. The challenge will be doing so against some of the best players around. Also battle points are only half the story. Recall that the scoring is 50% Battle, 20% Paint, 20% Comp and 10% Sports. Regards Mark C -------------------- Playing:
(FoW) Australian Rifle Company (EW/MW): 1750+ pts mainly painted (FoW) Africa Korps (EW/MW): 1500 pts mainly painted (FoW) Canadian Rifle Company (LW): 1600 pts mainly painted Packed away: (40K) Dark Angels / Space Marines: 5300+ pts mainly painted; Eldar: 2300+ pts partly painted (WFB) Dwarfs: 2600+ pts painted |
| Lonestar |
May 23 2008, 05:22 PM
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High BP?
This is assuming I accually win some games! -------------------- "Don't bully because you end up getting hurt bad." - The Rat
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