Edit: This has been updated with Commishua's comments for the upcoming season. Paul

Hey Hey all!!!

So, as my previous post alluded to: this coming Friday you are all free to start playing League games, and the Spring Cup kicks off officially!!! (Wooooo!!! armata_PDT_11.gif )
But before we get going, a few basic things: just go to this part of the website to grab all the key files. All coaches will want, and are expected to have the Competition Rules part (LRB6 to some) which is the most recent release of bloodbowl rules, which is available for free as a download all over the internet. Also, note the three new teams!!!.

As far as rules go, we will use ALL rules contained within the LRB6, excepting any rules that are 'replaced' or superseded by those written in the QNKBBL rules pack. For example, the "Turn Time Limit" rules are not enforced in any QNKBBL matches, however, if both coach's wish to play with the turn times enforced, they are free to do so (As per the QNKBBL Rules, page 2, paragraph 4). There are other examples of this; Illegal procedures and the Challenge System spring to mind among others.

Coach's should also have had a read of the QNKBBL Rules pack, which has remained unchanged from Jacobs last edit'. You WILL NEED this document in order to play the leagues "Special Games"; the ruff and tough of Street-Bowl, the hotly contested Dungeon-Bowl, The infamy of the Squig-Cup, and of course the hilarity of the Mc-Murty's round!

This brings me to the ever important MRS !!! [Match Report Sheet(s)]. Coach's obviously need to fill this one in DURING EVERY GAME. A few things to note here; make sure you check with you'r opponent during, and at the end of the match to see that the sheet is filled in clearly and correctly. If you feel that you sometimes lose track of this during the uproar of a great game of BloodBowl, I am going to suggest that BOTH COACHES keep track of the goings on for both teams (IE you both fill out a MRS) and compare them post-game, then locate and remedy and differences between the two.

Only one copy of the MRS needs be submitted to the Commish though - which can be done one of two ways - If I am there in person, all good just hand it too me tongue.gif If not though, please scan (or type-up) and email too the following address: ~~~ QNKBBLcommish@hotmail.com ~~~
A post up on WAU in the appropriate thread is also an option if need be.

Next up is team selection. Coach's who wish to roll over a team that was in a previous QNKBBL season they are free to do so, read up on the rules pack for this. However, most coach's seem to want a "re-boot" or fresh, out of the box team to play. This team is chosen from the normal rules and has a Team Value of 1 million GC. Please include the following information in the submitting of you'r team (I will illustrate by posting my team):

Coach: Name, 'WAU name', initial
Coach: Josh, 'Knockout', T.
Team Name; Race of Team
Orc's; Arkham's INSANE!

Player # (Player position), player Name [repeated for all players, in # order]
#1 - (Blitzer) - Ra's al Ghul
#2 - (Blitzer) - Tal'i al Ghul
#3 - (Blitzer) - Nyysa Raatko
#5 - (Thrower) - Deadshot
#7 - (Goblin) - Dr. H. Strange
#8 - (Goblin) - Dr. V. Zaeaz
#11 - (Blocker) - The Whip
#12 - (Blocker) - The Hook
#13 - (Blocker) - Razor-Burn
#14 - (Blocker) - Shell-Case
#16 - (Troll) - Amygdala

All non player purchases (rerolls, fanfactor, etc) including the number thereof
3 Team Re-Rolls.

NOTE: TEAMS WHO DO NOT SPEND THE FULL 1Mill CG: The unused portion of your funds will be used to give some lucky fans season tickets !!! (In practice, this means it will be used to purchase points of fan factor). As all new teams must start game 1 with a TV of 1million and an EMPTY treasury. There is no way around this.

This team details will be entered into a "Week Zero" file update mid-week, so if I could get those team lists ASAP then that would be great coach's !!!

Thats all (for now...),
Commish(ua?) Out! armata_PDT_37.gif

ED: oh, one more little note. On player names. If you purchase a player, you have the time until the NEXT update to think up a name and get it too me - if, when I go to do an update, there are players from a PREVIOUS update who still have no name, I have the right to either name them myself, or give this privilege to any other coach - the name I (or they) choose is the name that player is stuck with until they die, or are fired. So, name you'r players!!!

Also, I will not be using the "Hall of Fame" function on the Excel file any longer.

Gobbos or Underworld for me. I already have a full Gobbo team and could easily make an underworld one. We'll see, but i just want a casual non competative team next season. My aim would be maim, kill and fowl...less game and more headhunting haha.

Cheers,

Chad

Khemri using the 'Pharaohs of Vikhtoria' models from Impact. Will start to have more time available so 'might' bring back the Sewer Scramblers and the awesomeness of Sixfingers Lickspittle as Quarterback...

B.

chaos pact although the way i played at river city cup i may just curse them from the start and let brad name them

I have narrowed it to Slann, Lizards. I like all the models and I have an idea for Norse so add them to the list aswell

Ooo Ooo Can I please!!!!!

B.

I'm thinking I'll throw a dart at the team list...

I think I'll throw a dart at Brad

But yer, D16 out of the teams you have never played Commish ???

Let the universe deside and make them "the chosen ones"

As for me I have FAR from decided :/
Options include but are not limited too: Necro (rollover), Slann, Lizard, Nurgle, Halfailings OR most interestingly: skink team (a lizard team with 0 saurus which is then a squishy as fark stunty team )

you know what im sure ill regret this but naming rights to my pact team are all yours

Famous last words.....

I'd love to take an Orc team, I think they've got it all; major bash, 1 turn TD's and the ability to throw.....but I'll probably take the Raiders (Dark Elf) or Bombers out of retirement next season.....I know you all want to face the dwarf grinding machine

Woo Hoo!! Bring it on!!! Please forward me the types/descriptions and positions as soon as possible so I can give it my 'best effort'...

haha, i think next season is going to be an "interesting" one!

Gobbo death squad, skink horde, fail pact and a lot lot more!

Whoever takes a half serious team will trash our sorry arses!

Chad

i will carry over the "Slightly Altered" to next season to give a chance to play them for a while but i am looking at doing a norse team next year if i can get the models.

Woodies and dwarves for the win

Now that my Pharoahs of Viktoria Khemri have finally arrived I'd have to say "For the Glory of the Tomb Kings!!"

B.

Just picked up a couple more minis off eBay. Now I should be able to field Undead or Necro.

IM just about settled on Vamps. Looking for some cool minis to run as them though, not having much luck.

I've got a heap of TK plastics if you want bits'N'pieces for some of the lesser players. Don't have anything nice for the big beasties though...

team name = fail pact
1. marauder
2. marauder
3. marauder
4. marauder
5. marauder
6. marauder
7.
8.
9.
10.
11. skaven
12. darkelf
13. troll
14. ogre
15. mino
16. gobbo

heres the list brad i'll leave it in your capable hands

Hey Gents
For next season I will be carrying over the then third-gen Necro-Famers, but I will also be starting a new team... I am really wanting to do Orcs n Gobs, but there are already several Green-skin players.
Which brings me to my question(s):
How many Green-skin players plan to roll-over their green-skin teams?
Are there any coach's out there who are planning on beginning green-skins next season?
Given the above, how many is too many with regards to one race dominance within the league?
If we (I) decide there are too many Orcs n Gobs, what race should I play instead ?! (possibilities are any of them... thinking; C/D's, Nurgle, Norse, Ogres?)

Not sure if I'll rollover Orcly Warringah (80% chance at this stage).
Definitely taking Undead.

If there are too many Greenskins I could take Dwarves or Lizzards as my second team.

How tough are a 3rd gen team (Famers) gonna be against 1 gens ???

I reckon Ogres sounds good Josh (purely selfish reason, I wanna see them in action)

While we're on the subject, how many are going to take a second team?

We have 16 coaches at present. 2 teams per coach = 32 teams !!!

Yet this season there are only 2 (?) coach's who have taken a second team this season... its clearly not for everyone.
I think I will, because a third gen team will require little 'upkeep' or work, whilst the focus will be on my new shiny out of the box team

I don't want to discourage or stop other coach's from playing their #1 choice of race though, hence my list of questions, and the point of posting in this thread
This is why the anti-cherry picking 'pool' rules where used in the first half of the season; it stops new, low value teams being targeted by the higher TV older generation teams, and vice versa

Really??? Vice versa ??? Low value teams cherrypick and target higher TV teams.

I thought the winds were blowing in the "one team per coach" direction for next season...

If that's the case, I'm in with The Beach Boys, for some undead tomfoolery!

And our theme song is .......
Help me Zombie, help help me Zombie.

My winds fully blowning my arse to be GOBLINS OF DOOM!!1! (maybe the team name?!?).

I personally can't be in the WFB thingo and run 2 teams. I hardly can run 2 teams when fully comitted in previous leagues.

And on the note of ogres in action: you missed it mate but i was running one for a season...they need 100% dedication like gobbos and halflings to stand a chance of skilling to a level to then compete as a 2nd Gen Team in a future league. Thats the plan for my gobbos!

@ Josh: I won't be running orcs, you're safe from me. And 3rd Gen Famers? haha 400FF and 20 000SPP. Sounds like the right kind of targets for CHAINSAWS!!!! RING NING NING NING!!!

Cheers,

Chadface

Elaboration required? "om nom nom nom 8 billion inducment $" Yer, in my mind at least it goes both ways. And I'd be more than happy with that Is that the going consensus gents ??? Thats the spirit

You wanna bring back the famers for another season, I give you a and elaboration is required, here ya go

Im thinking a new lizard team, cause I like the models

Whats wrong with the Famers ya cry baby ?!

Nothing is wrong with the Famers, mate. However, the idea of playing a 3rd season team for some coaches in not particulary appealing, especially as the atmosphere of our league is one in which TV is kept considerably low due to coaches usually playing new teams each season.

Not saying if this is right or wrong, it just is.

Granted. I'll do what I did at the end of last season and trim the fat - keep the TV low and fire several players / assistants.

They are not THAT scary

Yeah, 29 TD to one player in ten games isn't scary at all..,

Then quite ya crying and A: defend! B: Kill him (again)

haha the famers arnt that bad from what ive seen. but then again im also playing a 2nd season team so my reference isnt really valid.

However, i think this will be a good experiment to see how a 3rd season team will opperate in a heavily 1st season environment and what might be done to make it all work well (if there are any issues).

Cheers,

Chad

Ok, so here's the list as I see it. Some are still undecided, some haven't posted replies yet.

Paul - Undead "The Beach Boys"
Chad - Gobbos "Goblins of Doom"
Brad - Khemri " ??? "
Nathan - Chaos Pact " ??? " Can't wait for the name Brad
Muddi - Lizzards " ??? "
Greggles - Wood Elf " ???"
Dom - Elf "Slightly Altered" 2nd gen carry over
Jacob - Vampire " ??? "
Josh - Necro "Famers" 3rd gen carry over and/or Orcs " ??? "
Corey - Skaven " ??? "
Mark - ???
David - Skaven "Educated Rodents" 2nd gen carry over ???
Jay - ???
Rueben - Dwarf "Iron Hammers" carry over ???
Johnathon - ???
Joe - Chaos " ??? "
Ongoing edits as people lock in teams

Let me assure you all that quite a bit of thought is going into this! The grand unveiling will be in a few weeks...

B.

Its weird to me that you wanna even bring them back for another round. Considering the amount of games they will have under there belt with 2 full seasons and squig, finals, dungeon etc . There not really a 3 season team at all when you compare them to everyone elses new team. Its more like a 6 season team verse teams with nothing.
Firing your fan factor and assistant coaches and a player with a nig inj to trim the fat doesnt really help when all the others are rock hard. If thats what you are looking for than go for it but my 20c is win this league and yeah defend your title if ya do,it makes sense or if you cant win with em give em a rest.
But hey thats cool if you wanna be that guy in the league and apparently wanna go the lazy route and not have to do anything with your team, than I guess we are looking for different things from this game. All cool bring em back itll be awesome and you can rule the universe woohoo
Is anyone else bringing back a team?

Aghh that was me after waking from a night shift with other things on my mind. Ok been to the gym and my mind is clear. Bring on the Famers, not what I thought would happen but hey your call and I will duck you for as long as I can

Im just worried I guess that this could create a domino effect and after the way the last few seasons has been with new fresh teams it could spell the end for such endeavours as coaches try to stay competitive.

Also the "lazy" approach to the running of the team I thought about and while I dont think you explained that very well I think there is some merit in that you can bring 2 teams and 1 is the auto pilot to the finals ie being competitive while you build your future prospect without to much stress about not being competitive maybe at the start of the league, if that is what you meant I can see that

Like I said all good and its amazing what a bit of exercise can do when you feel like crap

OH yeah have some of these before this all turns into a pile of poo pooz whatever man

Yeeer, whilst I can see where you are coming from, thats not quite... at all, the case. Finals entrys are on number of wins in the current season, so my orcs would be getting most of the games (or so the idea goes) but I really enjoy playing the necro and I'd probably enter them in squig cup, and play streetbowl games, etc, for shiggles. but to be honest I do see where you are coming from and I wouldnt want to be "that guy", its just a team I enjoy playing. To be honest the players I fire are more likely to be some of the 'positional' ones because they skill up so fast that really, who cares? Its the zombies, who many have taken two whole seasons to get 6 SPP and earn 'block' that I wanna keep - and the reason I wanna carry them on.

But eh, I may have to make the hard choice and drop one anyway, if we go to one team ea :/

THEN what :/

ED: for obligitory smileys n such etc

I have an idea

Stay tuned

My 2c after a few games with the Frogs.

2nd gen teams in a league with 1st gen teams appears to me, to have a huge advantage. No amount of inducements appear to offset the sheer player-power of 3+ skill positional supported by liners all with skills of their own.

It's enjoyable to pull off amazing plays with the teams that have all the tricks, but its not really a fair game. I've found all my games to feel rather 1 sided (other than famers).

My 2c. Frogs will push hard this season because they deserve it after last season, but then they will retire (most likely for good/restart if they come back).

Cheers,

chad

It all comes back to the fact that I as Commish do not want to penalise players for building a great team. This was the reason I instituted the pool system at the start of the league, and I think it actually worked quite well. I *really* do not want to put in place a division system though. What I would liek to see - and usually do - is see coaches play in the spirit of things. If you want an ultra competative league, than ours is not the one for you.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to tell anyone how to play or what teams to take. Bringing back my Immortals is very tempting, but I probably won't do it next season due to lots of new startup teams, and teh fact that BB is a game witha variety of teams and I have not got a chance to try all teh ones I want too.

In that vien, I'm am seriously considering bringing in 2 or 3 of the 'unofficial' teams that seem to be very popular with other leagues, as a trial next season.

Fixed it for ya!

oooooh, please tell what these might be. Given enough notice, I/we may be able to model up a team in time for next season.

Is there a team where you can take halflings on a human team? If so I'd take humans for sure.

Most likely - Bretts and Beastmen.

Daemons is a VERY big maybe. Need to investiagte further.

Okay so if the majority of coaches will be changing teams next season then I reckon I'll follow suit and my current thinking is a Wood Elf team (primarily because the Eagles look the part already, but also because I'm really digging high agi and movement)

However, the Bretonnian team, particulary their Knights are very, very tempting....