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punkskum
Nottingham, late 70s
The cold war is in full swing, we're all going to fry the world over in a big mushroom cloud, it rains all the time in England. It's the time of D&D and there are no BBS yet (hands up if you ever posted to one of those....ugh!)
A little known group of mates earns the rights to TSR's D&D behemoth in Europe. The found a cottage industry miniature design company, Citadel Miniatures, to produce miniatures for roleplaying games.

Fast forward to the late 80s (it still rains a lot, in England) and we have a wealth of licenses at GW's fingertips. Gary Gyrax reckons the two should merge but the GW stable know they're on a winner. Warhammer is cool. It's dark, it's gothic, yet it's tongue in cheek, it's highly imaginative. Rogue Traders span the galaxy, Marines are reminiscent of Vietnam US soldiers smoking weed and killing Orks. It's all very cool and innocent fun.
A few names pop into the the fold over the years - Ian Livingstone, Steve Jackson, John Peake (they were there from the start though, so that's kind of cheating)....Mike McVey, Rick Priestley, Andy Chambers, Jervis Johnson, Gavin Thorpe, Alessio Cavatore, Jake Thornton. And many others
To those who don't know them, these are the guys who, in various roles, designed WHFB (and its various derivative games) and WH40k (in its many, many incarnations, too) from the GROUND UP. Miniatures and all.
They came up with the idea of having a magazine (first Owl and Weasel, then White Dwarf) and back then there was no internet (there were BBSs by this stage, though...oh and ICQ!)

Their mail order service, known as the Mail Order Trolls, was helpful, knowledgeable and impeccable - as impeccable as Trolls can be, anyway!

Fast forward again to 1991 and the mood changes. An MBO (Management Buy Out) sees a focus away from creativity into running the company as a business. Good or bad, with the tension caused by having thousands of people on the payroll the world over and the falling profits due to videogames (yup, we've got the first internet by this stage!) and trading card games, the slow death of roleplaying games and the opening of Eastern economies, the whole demeanor of GW changes. They're in the worm hole that is capitalist doctrine now - not necessarily a bad thing per se, after all the Cold War is now over and YUP, the West (that's us!) won it. But the names you read before? They all get ousted or leave little by little to be replaced by a new brand of game designer, of retailer, of Mail Order Troll.

Cue 2010 MANTIC GAMES is on the scene. We're still in Nottingham - fancy that!
They've got a mag, they've got miniatures, they've got a mail order service. They've got a few of those names from above, indeed...- Mike McVey, Gavin Thorpe, Alessio Cavatore, Jake Thornton. And many others.

So I ponder, now, after this little history lesson of sorts - is Mantic worth checking out. Are we on the bottom rung of a NEW miniatures range and gaming system birth?
If these are SOME of the blokes who made GW what it is - ie designed its setting, its rules, its factions, everything you think you know and love about your favorite world was made by these guys - then shouldn't their new company be bound to produce quality?

I'd like to know what others think of this, too.
Me, I've just bought the two Dwarf King's Hold board games as I'd like to sample the miniatures and see how the system holds up. Has anyone else thought about if this could be the new GW rising like a phoenix from the ashes of a capitalist takeover where the "fun" has left and the rain continues, that won't change, across the grey skies of Nottingham?

Ummmm....
Occulto
Jervis is working for Mantic now?
Treadhead
I would check who is working for mantic before saying two much. Andy Chambers has been writing rules for DUST and Jervis has been helping the boys from warlord games with some of their historical rules. ditto Rick, he has written two of the best rules sets around in Hail Caeser and Black powder.

Not too much of a surprise that mantic are based in Norttinham, it is thecenter of the lead belt with most wargames manufactures in the UK based in the area.

just my 2c
punkskum
Not YET!
My bad, I've removed him...sorry about that
I can definitely confirm
Ian Livingstone (Eidos Interactive)
Steve Jackson (founder of Lionhead Studios)
John Peake (no info found....)
Mike McVey (founds painting and design company with his wife, paints for Mantic - among many others)
Rick Priestley (Warmaster, licenses Specialist Military Publishing for the Commander series, written Black Powder and Hail Caesar, $20 says we'll see him at Mantic Towers before 2013 - armata_PDT_01.gif )
Andy Chambers (co-author of Starcraft II)
Jervis Johnson (Warlord Games)
Gavin Thorpe (Mantic Towers)
Alessio Cavatore (Mantic Towers)
Jake Thornton (Mantic Towers)

I stand corrected and have amended the article
May he sit in his room waiting forever more
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QUOTE(Occulto @ Dec 15 2011, 04:58 PM) *

Jervis is working for Mantic now?

punkskum
QUOTE(Treadhead @ Dec 15 2011, 05:40 PM) *

just my 2c

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Dono1979
QUOTE(punkskum @ Dec 15 2011, 05:53 PM) *

Not YET!
My bad, I've removed him...sorry about that
I can definitely confirm
....

I stand corrected and have amended the article
May he sit in his room waiting forever more
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Sorry but what are you confirming? Is that list people confirmed to be working for Mantic or that is simply a list of all of the oldies and where they are currently working?

-Dono
Dono1979
Also is Mike McVey the same Mike who owns and runs Studio McVey?

-Dono
cmdr_roy
Yes, he also worked for Privateer Press during their early years.
punkskum
QUOTE(Dono1979 @ Jan 4 2012, 08:54 AM) *

.... list of all of the oldies and where they are currently working?

punkskum
QUOTE(Dono1979 @ Jan 4 2012, 08:56 AM) *

Also is Mike McVey the same Mike who owns and runs Studio McVey?


That is correct
neil
QUOTE(punkskum @ Dec 15 2011, 03:19 PM) *
They came up with the idea of having a magazine (first Owl and Weasel, then White Dwarf) and back then there was no internet (there were BBSs by this stage, though...oh and ICQ!)

ICQ wasn't around until '97 or so, post-WWW. I guess you mean IRC.. usenet is where most of the 40k discussion was in my experience. (although we could barely ever convince the sysop to dial in to an international irc server).
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