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Assaultguardsman
Here's a test model of my latest ork skin painting....thingy.

He's still a mite WIP but the skin is basically done (except his left hand. bugger, I should fix that)

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All in all it's turned out a litle paler than I would have liked, but it has given him nice definition, and he doesn't stick out too much on the tabletop.
Big Red
It looks good to me except for a minor thing (IMO)....

It goes from a dark green (for the shading - unless it's just the pic) to the very pale, light green - not a "natural" progression of the colour.

You could give it a very thin, watered down wash of green ink (sort of like a "green cordial drink with water added" level of watering down) - this would create a slightly darker or greener "pale" green and "blend" the transition, especially since you've stated that it's a bit paler then you wished. It doesn't take that long to do so it won't dramatically increase your painting time for a squad. In fact, it works better, time-wise, to do a bunch of minis rather than one or two.

I did a similar wash thing (but red) on my squig herd for last year's GD and it toned the highlights down really well. Made the minis the "red" that I was after i.e. it "blended the transitions so they weren't too obvious, rather than the yellow/orange, highlighted squigs that I initially ended up with.

I would recommend using an ink rather than a watered down paint. Remember to add a drop of dishwashing detergent to the watered down mixture. If you try the ink, please post a pic of the result.

Otherwise, the mini looks good. A squad/army would be cool on the table top.
Kingnova3000
I think it looks great, although personally I would get sick of doing it over 70+ orks, but thats just me. Maybe a little darker but as you said it came out paler then you expected.
Assaultguardsman
@ Big Red;

I'll give it a shot tonight. This is something like my 3rd go at this style of skin, and after I've inked it previously, it hasn't come out right (with varying degrees of watered down ink). I haven't tried dishwashing liquid before, but I'll give it a go. The idea is to lower the surface tension of the ink/water mix to get a more even spread yes?
Big Red
... something like that.

All I know is that sometimes the watered-down ink actually dries in the wrong places and not in the crevices/recessed areas - a drop of dishwashing detergent, and it only needs to be a small drop at that, will make the mixture settle and dry in the correct areas. I did know why it made it so but that was years ago when I did HSC Chemistry and yes, it does have something to do with surface tension, hydrophobia of molecules etc, etc. That was a long time ago now.....

If you can get a reasonable darkish style of green, rather than an "apple" green, it may look better. GW used to produce a great dark green ink/wash - Orc Flesh wash - just superb for the job.
Assaultguardsman
I've got the standard 'Dark Green ink'
Big Red
That should work....

Just water it down, add the drop of dish washing liquid, mix again - adjust the ink/water ratio until your happy with the consistency/colour .... splash it on the orks.
Alco Engineer
I usually stop highlighting my Ork flesh at 50/50 gobin green and snot green. I like mine a little darker. The Nob's I stop at snot green because I like them to be really dark. That's just my preference. I like the detail on the skin of your Ork but I wouldn't like mine to be that dark (also with 60-70 odd boys I don't want to spend too much time on each one.
Jester of Death
a little bit pale, need to tone it down, maybe a wash.


jod
fattdex
yep i'd wash it with veru thin green ink and it should look great.
Ghetti
AG,

Not dissimilar to my old orks fomr a few years ago. Granted, you're highlighting is better defined. I'm a big fan of stark contrasts and going from dark shadows to really bright stuff.

Love it and as my 2 1/2 year old would say: Rock on!

Cheers,
G tongue.gif
theshufflingzombie
dude-cant u just stik with a skin colour????

my opinon-much to pale on the final highlight-looks like youve drawn it on with a crayon imho-u could ink it, or (what i would do) just paint it differently

i would also keep those final lines a bit thinner than you have them (its mostly correct-just a little to thick in places, like the right shoulder-but im guessing you already new this?)
drozzy
Too bright, looks like a gretchin. Darken the colours, or chuck some tamiya smoke on it.
Ghetti
Dig the checker design on the gun btw tongue.gif
Assaultguardsman
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chuck some tamiya smoke on it.


That's your solution to everything Tom. I swear, your house could be burning to the ground and you'd say "no worries, chuck some Tamiya smoke on it" tongue.gif

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dude-cant u just stik with a skin colour????


I think it's obvious that I can't!
Diesel
AG good work mate, agree with Big Red, a watered down Green Wash would be awesome and really make the transition from Dark to light more subtle.

But even as it is, its A1 work wink.gif

Cheers

Tony
General_Hospital
it looks god, but not real. as others have said it oes from dark to light too quickly for it to be as a result of real light. but if your just going for a look the its still cool.
Assaultguardsman
Here's the inked product:

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Too little? Too much?
Big Red
The lighting is different to your first set of pics but I think that you've got it about right.

There is still definite "line" between your highlights but that can't be changed considering the way your painting the highlights on. It now looks a lot more "natural" in the greens - from shading to highlights.

I like it. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
Assaultguardsman
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There is still definite \"line\" between your highlights


That was my intention; I could have blended out from the middle of each muscle, but I wanted to add some artificial definition and deliniation.

Thanks for the comments and advice guys, I'll put up a squad of these guys within the week.
drozzy
It looks okay, if you're a fan of the light skinned pansy flower pickin' orks.

That said, too much damage on the helmet, i reckon, needs ot be more subtle.
Jester of Death
looking much better.


jod
Lachy
[quote]It looks okay, if you're a fan of the light skinned pansy flower pickin' orks. [/quote]

You spoilsport, Drozzy!

I personally reckon it looks fine, but then I'm one of the people who also liked the orks prior to the application of the ink wash.
Buddha
Very nice AG, the Inked version is definately the pick!

Big Red knows his stuff, hes won Golden Demons painting Orks tongue.gif

Hope to see these at Arc, get em' finished mate :-D

Tom
Trip
Yeah i like the inked version better.

I also agree with Drozzy about the helmet though.
dkou
try a mixture of rotting flesh and goblin green for a nice highlight color thats what i use for my hightlings in WHFB... for a pic of it

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Assaultguardsman
[quote]That said, too much damage on the helmet, i reckon, needs ot be more subtle.[/quote]

's meant to be paint that's flaked off over time, it doesn't look so wierd in person. It's there so I can identify my special weapon dudes quickly in games.

[quote]try a mixture of rotting flesh and goblin green for a nice highlight color thats what i use for my hightlings in WHFB... for a pic of it [/quote]

My ususal highlight colour is gobbo green with bleached bone - that gave a nice mid-tone highlight. Except now I've run out of bleached bone.

I'm switching to valejo soon anyway, so I'm letting my GW paints slowly run down over time, replacing paints with valejo as I need them.
Jimmy
I think the model and paintjob are splendid mate, make sure you pace yourself with the army though, could get sick of painting one colour very quickly.
mark_logue
Highlights look great. Go ahead and do the army man will be good.
dkou
I like the inked models.. I'd do them all like that. Nice and tidy i think.
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