Ready to open your book of grudges and challenge for your honour.

Grudge-Con 40k

Date: Sunday 18th March
Time: 10am
Location: Burwood Good Games
Games and Points: 3 games at 1750 points
Price: $25 - all distributed back as prizes.

Please prepay so we can lock in the numbers.
Please put "Grudge" as a reference and include your name/initials if it's from a 3rd party account

HSBC
Account Name: D Fung
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Account: 183 985 412

And PM me when you send payment so I can confirm.




This is the opportunity to grudge those that you have never played in a tournament; avenge pass loses; and earn some honour by challenging harder opponents.


Grudge-Con Rules:

All armies must be painted to 3 colour and based minimum standard.
Players will be divided into 3 groups of similar skill level.

Grudge Up: Players can grudge others in the same group or players in an upper group. Grudged (opposing) player from the same group does not have to accept your challenge - this is to encourage you to 'grudge up'.
Accept all Challenges: You must accept grudges from a player in a lower group
Take a Skull: At least one of the three games, a player must grudge someone in a higher group (unless you are in the highest group)
Silent Stalker: Players in the Group 3 start the grudges then Group 2 and finally Group 1
Blood Rule: Do not grudge your friends. Do not grudge a player you had played.


Grudge-Con Points System:

Held your ground: 1 Skull (Win against a player from the same or lower group, Draw against a player from one group higher)
Skulltaker: 2 Skulls (Win against a player from one group higher, Draw against a player from two groups higher)
Bloodthirster: 3 Skulls (Win against a player from two groups higher)


Grudge-Con Prizes:

2 Players with the most Skulls (VP as count back for tie break)
2 Best painted armies
2 Best Sports
Raffle



Grudge-Con and ATC Trials:

Grudge-Con will also be use as an ATC trials. So, if you are on the draft list, it is recommended that you come and proof your strengths. If you are not in the draft list yet, here is where you can proof that I should picked you into the team. I will be monitoring your playing style and behaviours.

Win by skills, not by rule lawyering.

---show me why I should pick you in the ATC team---

*Wins with 30 mandrakes and the decapitator......*

I'll turn up for this.

Must remember this one....

So correct me if I’m wrong, but players grudge their opponents each round?

Sounds interesting, count me in.

Yes, Grudge-Con is where you get to grudge people every game.

Since people like grudges in tournament, Grudge-Con lets you do it for the whole day


Player list

Scott Norwood - Paid + List
Julian Miller - List
Jason Miller - List
Andrew Wynen - List
Jimmy Wynen - List
Michael Turner - Paid + List
John Lampe - Paid + List
David Teoh - List
Chee Wong - Paid + List
Simon Rainbow - List
Jason Collins - Paid + List
Jared Clifford - Paid + List
Rohnan Browne - List
Alex Ozanne - Paid + List
Mitchell Corrigan - Paid + List
David White - Paid+ List
Denis Fung - List
Edward McBurney - List

Denis, every single time I have evr grudged someone I have lost. (when your dice decide to roll more 1's until its Ld then its 6's it kinda amkes you loose). So Is this just a way to keep me out of ATC?

I'll try and make it...

How will you determine the skill level of groups? (RHQ, personal knowledge etc).

I'll be in the bad group and everyone else will be above me. Done.

I have played with enough players to know where you level is. There is only 3 groups, so it is not that hard.

This is like a type of handicap race.

I am looking forward to it, should be a fun event!.

need lists before hand?

list submitted one week before so I can check points are added correctly.

For all ATC challengers, I expect you to bring the army (your first choice) that you want to enter into the ATC team.

Sounds interesting.

You'll still be beaten by people in the middle group

As for me well i must be in the lowest group right just look at my placing at dogcon last year.....31st/37.....*shudders* from bad memories.

As per using rankings to break groups, well I know for a fact that Richard Neally is a really good general but as he has not attended many tournaments in the past year(s) he isn't up that high, (not that hes interested just an example).

So if I'm looking at it right, the only way a group 3 person gets to play a person in group two is if there are odd numbers, as all the group 3 players will pair off first.

I'll put in an early grudge Andrrew Wynen seeming we're both fighting for a place as DE general and we could be the same group I grudge you.

There will be 3 Groups (A, B, C)

Since I know or played most of you, I will divide the group by my perception of your skill level relative to others in Grudge-Con.

I could be wrong with one or two players but you should find yourself in a group with players in similar level.
Group B will be the biggest group, because they will be grudged by Group C and grudging people in Group A.

You do not have to grudge people in the same group, the Skulls encourage you to 'grudge up' because if you Draw, you still get rewarded. This is to reward players who challenges themselves. Beating the Millers, David, or Kirby will be more worth your while than grudging Andrew.

"derp" sorry i re-read it I was thinking group 3 was the highest, dumb. Now it all makes sense.

looks like fun

what missions will you be running?

I play with Psilencers in my Purgation squads; does that qualify me for group 3?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no.

Looks interesting - I'll see if I can make it.

I think you just qualify for your own group, your opponent gets 1 skull for every rule abuse you use.

No because we know you will be grudging daemon players

Lol! daemon players? They still exist?

There will be one of each book mission (3+ objectives, KP, and 2 objectives). Because this doubles up as ATC trials, and ATC uses book missions, I will stick with it this time around.

I will run other events (e.g. Summer Horizon) with different missions in the future.

sounds good

how will you determine the order that people make grudges in? (I mean with in a grouping)

when can grudges be made? (can you line up all three opponents before the day or is grudging pregame only)


I am also surprised that Aeon hasn't tried to claim that winning through rules lawyering is a skill.

This looks interesting, and am free that weekend.

Ah Mono, Aeon is a special case.

I am surprised that people think its not

got too busy lawyering that you forgot how to win the game

more like a handicap than skill for some

what happens if a group 2 player is grudged 3 times and does not have a chance to grudge up?

I will ensure that you get to grudge at least once. Players who got grudged twice will have priority last round (group 2)

I'll possibly turn up, Do I need to do anything or can I just show up on the day.

Prepay (info in first post), bring your preferred list, show up with models and start grudging.

We need to bring models to this shindig? Phaw!

I figured we'd just be in some kind of dance competition, or maybe karaoke ?

What models? Just catwalk? Do pornstars count?

ok, when do you need to know by.

Please register, pay, and post the Codex you will use by Sunday 11 March (so people will know what codex/army you will bring).

Thank you

Looks like I have to accept your challenge then...

Andrew
Lords of the Garage

Oh snap.

Oh you're going down for that Andrew.

*starts tailoring list to beat his. Aka seeming you'll be meched up I'll reserve from bringing venom spam.

Denis,

Quick question for you.......can people with no intention in going to/trying out for the ATC still come along for some games i.e. mostly for the experience and tough challenges etc??

Jared

jared just join you big pansy

You don't need to aim for ATC to play Grudge-Con. In fact, I want people like you to give me feedback on how I can make it more fun for others as well.

In the end, it should always be fun even if you play against strong players. If you lose, you can learn some new trick, and if you win, you get 'rep'. Win-Win

Ok cool!!
Sounds like it will be fun. Put me down as a yes in attending!!

Mono for that comment I should grudge you haha

Jared Clifford

You should but I will need to claim the blood rule on that one.

a few more weeks to go.
Get yourself ready and start paying

Yeah sign me up!

Is there any point in saying I'm an inexperienced general with practically no experience using the soft new shiny DE codex ? I was only in the ATC because Jason lent me a good army?

But this time I'm hamstringing myselfand using soft DE....

Attepting prepayment now

Just confirming I will be coming, bringing my guard along. Looking forward to it!

Player list is in post #4.

Also, when you register, post up which group you think you should be in.

It does not mean you will be in that group, but just an idea of where you think you are.

At the moment it looks like the following number of players,

4 players in Group 1 - Strong/experience players
8 players in Group 2 - Intermediate players
4 players in Group 3 - Aspirant players

Few questions, first off being that i'm new to the NSW tourney scene but am newish to tournaments (only played in 4 last year) and have never played the TO how does that rank me in terms of the groups?

As a reletive newb if i come to this will i be smashed in the face round after round by people who have been in the scene for years or is there a chance that i might even win one game.

And being that i know no one at the tournament how could i grudge someone i have no grudge against?

Despite all that consider me signed up as i need to get my feet wet somewhere in NSW and this is as good a place as any, i'll be bringing my Blood Angels and pretty sure i'll be group 3.

If you have not played in a tournament, I will likely put you into Group 3, so it will be easier for you.

Since there is no margin of win being used in Grudge-Con, there is no incentive to smash people. Although I would advise to take each game as a learning experience, because that is what I want to make for these 1 day events - easy on the family and have a few games. Prizes is not only for winners but shared around, so there is a good chance that you could win something.

Pick anyone that you would like to play, even others in Group 3. Aim is to have fun and play against players that you have not played.

when do lists need to be in by?

Dear all,

List and payment are due this Saturday.

Please send your list to eh40k@hotmail.com
Please use word doc or excel file for your list.

Everyone will be sent everyone else's list by Sunday. So you can plan your grudges.

Denis