Ok so my dad thinks that the big sqiggth is a remake of the LotR big elephant model but i disagree i have some reasons to support his view and why to support my point of view so plz tell me which one u think is correct

my dad's reasons: 1 vote
#horns are a remake of tusks
#riders on top
#has 4 legs like a elephant

my reasons: 8 votes
#scales
#green
#evoltion of a squig

i admit gw could have used the LotR idea but tell me what u think

its a giant dinosaur with orks on top, id say more dino riders than tolkien...




JoD

thanks you for sharing your opinion i will put that as 1 vote on my side

I believe the FW Squiggoth kit is somewhat older than the Mamuk kit, and the lord of the rings movies.

could be wrong.

Definitely NOT a conversion.

The concept of squiggoths has been around longer than the Peter Jackson movies as well.

no votes From me.

Squiggoth came out in 2002-3? IIRC.

The idea of it was in drawings long before Peter Jackson did LOTR movies.

thank you for your ideas i will put that as one vote to me

maybe the body they used as a starter and just added things to it, but I would highly doubt they use the lord of the rings miniatures to make other models.

Squiggoths have been around for much longer the Jackson films. They were in epic (then simply 'Space Marine' and 'Titan Legions') in the 90s.

Lotr licencing was pretty specific about blending the two franchises. I doubt gw legal would take the risk regarding intellectual property breaches. Wasn't that the main reason Lotr is a different scale?

Yup they weren't allowed any cross over

The FW big squiggoth model wasn't, isn't, never has been based, copied, modified or converted from a LOTR hephalump. Not Even a little bit.

Not even close

you have interesting discussions with your father lol

i do sometimes

that is bout 6 more votes for it is not a remake thanks for comments

This was my first impression.

However, the pose is quite static and could benefit from some motion, which would emphasise the brute aggression this model should possess.

The models are not derived from each other anymore than the chaos mamoth.

However the concept of the squiggoth could have been inspired by the tolkeing books which date back to the 1930s and they could have been inspired by tales of ancient warfare where Elephants were used as warbeasts accross asia for several thousand years.

i will count that as 1 dad for my dad