http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showth...623#post1235623

No

A conversion.

Not bad, but as mentioned above, not a rumor, just a very cool conversion. Even says so in the thread that was linked.

Not a fan.

Re-read the OP linked.

GW are supplying plans for a conversion, which requires certain kits.

The rumour or assumption is to guage interest in a plastic version and how willing customers would be to pay a certain price.

Wouldnt be surprised with 6th's arrival if a plastic kit wasnt far off.

Especially given the imperfections and warping of the FW resin version being main deterrents.

It's a fair assumption. If people are willing to buy a number of kits and put in the effort to convert a TH, then they may very well be willing to spend a similar amount of cash to buy a proper kit.

Still, I'll believe it when I see it...

It's an interesting idea, but if you have to buy multiple kits for conversions then, I would rather see a plastic thunderhawk you could buy online or in store and with all the new plastic flyer kits out there would be a reasonable expectation to see these soon.

My question is simply, why?

Why would you want a model of one of the ugliest, most poorly designed vehicles ever.
That thing has always looked like a scratch built ship made be a 10 year old who had access to nothing more complex than cardboard shoe boxes. It's a travesty of model making and an embarrassment to GW

GW make some outstanding models, I have many of them and I am happy to have them, this one is not one of them and if someone other than GW made it there would be howls of laughter and cries of indignation at the insult to the genre.

I quite like the look of thunderhawks especially the artwork done for them over the years.
Forgeworld one is a lot nicer than that plastic one mashed together though

can we get the plans up on here?

Nice, well sort off. but for the black box on the roof. just so big. It looks as orc,s finished it off for him.

With Stumphy on this.

FW thunderhawk in resin, is not a good kit to fiddly and warping issues make it a pain in the a** to assemble a couple of my mates have got them and I'm not a fan of the model.

That said, I think a plastic product designed properly and streamlined so it does not look like a flying brick and priced reasonably rofl would be a winner.

I have a metal one

A streamlined T-hawk would not be a T-hawk.

That said, compared to the original epic scaled flying crenulated flying brick T-hawk, the current design IS streamlined. Still a brick, though. With large engines.

Engineering principles.
With big enough engines, you CAN make a brick fly.

Um, no. That's an amateur principle.

Perhaps streamlined is the wrong choice of words, a more aerodynamic looking thunderhawk.

Engineering principles, don't apply in the 41st millenium I thought everyone new this lol.

It's worse than that. You have to store the fuel somewhere, and depending on how efficient your engines are not all of it's getting converted to motive power (the perfect engine caps at 88%. This isn't a real-world measured value either; this is the actual calculated "perfect system" cap).

So, given that you have to fight against wind resistance, the weight of the actual flying brick, the weight of the fuel, the weight of its ammo (I mention the last two as I'm aware that they'll deplete throughout).... No. Not gonna happen, sorry. No matter how big your engines.

Take a gander at.... Idunno, most of the non-Marine Aeronautica range for an idea of vehicles that MIGHT work (I say might). Hawk Wargames also do it well, sofar.

Anyway, a question for the 40K players.... are you guys really okay with the concept of the game becoming 28mm Epic? Because that to me feels like where it's going. Planes, ICBM's, big tanks etc.... to me it doesn't feel feasible at this scale, so to get it to work you have to expand the playing area & points size.

sounds like a plausible marketing strategy ...

Nu-cu-ler... silly Borzag, this is the 41st Millenium with Space Wizards

I would appreciate you applying your Enguneering degree to explain half the crap in Malifaux... or would that blaspheme?

AND half the crap in WarMachine.

Malifaux: NFI, but there are some things that flat-out shouldn't work though (I'm specifically thinking of the PeaceKeeper). Thin limbs + heavy torso = you shear off the legs at the hip joints.

WM: Ditto. However given that magic is inherently built into the design (they don't have actual machinery as much as spells engraved onto plates & fed magic, circuit-board style) I've always mentally assumed they have levitation spell plates on the underside of those heavy shells. It would certainly explain the overhang.

I'm conflicted on that one. On one hand it's over-the-top and awesome, OTOH horribly impractical and likely to be terribly unbalanced.

So... perfect for Space Marines and 40k???

Still trying not to start a SM just because of the latest flyer they have on Forgeworld, looks a thousand times better than the space guppy.

This bad boy?

OMFG! lmfao.....

-Dono

'Early concept work for the Storm Raven'

GW fanboys, the lot of you.

Vallejo does better quality Thunderhawks, and much cheaper too.

And they come in drop-ship bottles so you get more use out of them!

Something, something, stainless steel ball bearings...

Melt that thing down and you'll have your ball bearings...

Some of the conversions are pretty good. They just need a bit more polish. Shadowsword/baneblade cannon would make the guns look better. And I would probably use all four engines from the stormravens. And just use a bit more plastic card to smooth it out a bit and make it look more unified.

I reckon it is worth a shot for cost of two stormravens (online) and a gun plus some plastic card. Even pushing $200 of materials it's still cheaper than $600 for a FW one. And a lot easier to put together.

Wouldn't want to build more than one though. Unless you're an exceptional converter. If we start to see a lot of these around then they may be getting closer to a full blown kit.



I already play Apocalypse, so it's a natural progression for me. They just need to formalise a more robust rule set for big games so it is easier to play out of the box.

err new flash ITS NOT REAL, its fiction.

We know... duh!

Wait... You're telling me that in the 41st Millenium there isn't only war?

Their are also cookies!

Their?

Thar be?

Thar be dragons?

i was in a GW store today talking to one of the GW staff & i said i wonder if they'll release drop ship now since they just released all these attack craft. he said highly likely since 6 month ago we did a survey centred around 40k aircraft.

did anyone see or do one of those Surveys?

I hope they release drop ship first on my list would be a Space marine thunderhawk & the Tau Orca.

Even for a display piece, either would be good.

Problem is transport between games.

In Soviet Russia, Thunderhawk transports you...