Hi everyone. I have just seen some stuff about the Derivan paints and was hoping that maybe someone has some experience with them. At present I am using Vallejos, and love them.
I wanted to know if they are comparable with these, or perhaps (dare I say it!) better than the Vallejos. Basically, if someone could tell me if they are pretty good or not, that would be excellent. Since they are in larger bottles and work out a little cheaper than Vallejo do, they might be worth it.
Oh, I am not real fussed with citadel paints. They're ok, but I way prefer Vallejos.
Full Version: Derivan Paints
Hi all
You will very soon be able to purchase Derivan minis paints here at WAU and recieve a special offer as a member. The paints are awsome otherwise I would not endorse them.
Cheers
Stan
You will very soon be able to purchase Derivan minis paints here at WAU and recieve a special offer as a member. The paints are awsome otherwise I would not endorse them.
Cheers
Stan
Cool! What sort of time frame are we looking at till the paints will be up and available? I will certainly be pleased with the larger bottles and still good quality!
Details up tonight 
hav you used them yourself sparticus, as im intrigued. also would oyu be able to provide us with a colour chart, with the GW and Vallejo equivalent. im thinking of getting these, if they are better than GW, as i need to do white and black marines, and some white that covers good would be... good :-o
Click here ----> Derivan MiNis Paints Colour Comparisons.
They are excellent! and to top it off you recieve almost 3 times as much than the older brands. These paints are brand spanking new and designed for one purpose only, painting miniatures.
Mark Fenlon and I spent the last week testing and using the Derivan Minis paints and I am extremely pleased with the results.
Dont hesitate to send an email to derivanminis@wargamerau.com with any questions.
Spart
They are excellent! and to top it off you recieve almost 3 times as much than the older brands. These paints are brand spanking new and designed for one purpose only, painting miniatures.
Mark Fenlon and I spent the last week testing and using the Derivan Minis paints and I am extremely pleased with the results.
Dont hesitate to send an email to derivanminis@wargamerau.com with any questions.
Spart
yeah, I need new paints and I have to say the 15% off makes these very tempting.
So, Sparticus, are you saying that we only get the 15% discount off purchasing the ENTIRE range? Or do we get the 15% discount purchasing through WargamerAU (any quantity). Coz if it's the former, they have that discount available on the derivan website already and just anyone can have that discount.
The post you put up seems to read like it's only off the entire range purchased at once.
The post you put up seems to read like it's only off the entire range purchased at once.
I can give you some history.
Matisse Derivan have been getting feed back from WSGS for a number of years about their artist paints. The 36ml eye dropper bottle came from WSGS as a suggestion, as well as the flexibility to airbrush.
Then over 2004 they have been trialing various formula with painters like Mark Fenlon, Robert Sakaluk, Andrew Lum and Gary Kenworthy. Plus WSGS members, Tony Wilkinson, Pat Sibbald,, Steve Stopford and me (Ty Gock).
Trialing included airbrushes plastic kits by Chris Shai-Hee.
The formula was adjusted maybe three times based on the input from all the painters. It is now a very matt finish and the pigment is ground for airbrush tips as small as 1mm. There is no way the pigment can hide detail. It thins down just with water, and fine layering of thin coats works well. Matisse have also have some useful mediums like drying retarder, surface tension breaker(airbrushing and fine detail work)
Mark was so impressed, (Matisse added inks based on his direct input), he offered to sell them and became the very first retailer of Derivan Minis at MOAB. He has painted all his new Zouaves with the Derivan Minis.
Mark is an exceptional sculptor, a great painter and a man of high integrity. I hope that WargamerAU members look at his miniatures as well as the Derivan Minis. they look great painted up.
The Minis were then released at MOAB, and all Matisse painted displays are using Australian Figures from Maidenhead, Shadowforge, Castaway, Eureka and Mark Fenlon, so Matisse are doing their bit to promote Australian Miniature Manufacturers and Australian Painters.
Anyhow at MOAB , Tinsoldier received some samples and sent them to Bails. Bails compared them with a highly regarded overseas brand (also in eye dropper bottles) and thought they were great. Bails had written a review on the old warfoundry forum.
This has resulted in Tinsoldier is also stocking them, and a few other retailers (like Grey Matter games) have also come on board. A full retailer list can be found on the Matisse information page.
There has also been good feedback on various web sites. Matisse sponsored the Golden Camel after the Golden Demon competition and there were photos and a commentary on one of the forums.
The Matisse Derivan Mini information can be found
http://www.matisse.com.au/pages/minis.htm
There is also a USA retailer, Fozzbozz Trading Company.
Matisse have demonstrated a real capacity to listen and take on board recommendations and constructive feedback. I am impressed with the people there and their product.
Matisse Derivan have been getting feed back from WSGS for a number of years about their artist paints. The 36ml eye dropper bottle came from WSGS as a suggestion, as well as the flexibility to airbrush.
Then over 2004 they have been trialing various formula with painters like Mark Fenlon, Robert Sakaluk, Andrew Lum and Gary Kenworthy. Plus WSGS members, Tony Wilkinson, Pat Sibbald,, Steve Stopford and me (Ty Gock).
Trialing included airbrushes plastic kits by Chris Shai-Hee.
The formula was adjusted maybe three times based on the input from all the painters. It is now a very matt finish and the pigment is ground for airbrush tips as small as 1mm. There is no way the pigment can hide detail. It thins down just with water, and fine layering of thin coats works well. Matisse have also have some useful mediums like drying retarder, surface tension breaker(airbrushing and fine detail work)
Mark was so impressed, (Matisse added inks based on his direct input), he offered to sell them and became the very first retailer of Derivan Minis at MOAB. He has painted all his new Zouaves with the Derivan Minis.
Mark is an exceptional sculptor, a great painter and a man of high integrity. I hope that WargamerAU members look at his miniatures as well as the Derivan Minis. they look great painted up.
The Minis were then released at MOAB, and all Matisse painted displays are using Australian Figures from Maidenhead, Shadowforge, Castaway, Eureka and Mark Fenlon, so Matisse are doing their bit to promote Australian Miniature Manufacturers and Australian Painters.
Anyhow at MOAB , Tinsoldier received some samples and sent them to Bails. Bails compared them with a highly regarded overseas brand (also in eye dropper bottles) and thought they were great. Bails had written a review on the old warfoundry forum.
This has resulted in Tinsoldier is also stocking them, and a few other retailers (like Grey Matter games) have also come on board. A full retailer list can be found on the Matisse information page.
There has also been good feedback on various web sites. Matisse sponsored the Golden Camel after the Golden Demon competition and there were photos and a commentary on one of the forums.
The Matisse Derivan Mini information can be found
http://www.matisse.com.au/pages/minis.htm
There is also a USA retailer, Fozzbozz Trading Company.
Matisse have demonstrated a real capacity to listen and take on board recommendations and constructive feedback. I am impressed with the people there and their product.
Hmmmm.... i think i will be ordering some of these paints in the new year. there has been some very good reports so im gonna give them a go. sparticus, same quastion as lewmmingspawn, does the 15% discount only apply if oyu buy the whole range? or is it 15% off any paint in the range?
What do you currently pay for the 12ml paints currently available or for the 17ml bottles.
At $4 a 12ml bottle for one leading brand, it would cost $12 for 36ml.
The Derivans Minis are 36ml for $5.60 each or $7.60 for the metallics that is cheap.
At $4 a 12ml bottle for one leading brand, it would cost $12 for 36ml.
The Derivans Minis are 36ml for $5.60 each or $7.60 for the metallics that is cheap.
Sounds Promising 
Where do we put our orders in??
Tony
Where do we put our orders in??
Tony
Heh, found it :oops:
Tyberious, there is no doubt that there is value for the quantity of paint. plus with the lids like that, they wont be drying out. ive found that even GW new paint pots are getting cloggy, but not as bad as the old ones.... im looking forward to ordering some of these paints... IM EXCITED
I see the value for money, I was already considering buying them based on that factor alone. I just wanted to check to see if there were additional discounts to WAU buyers aside from the standard.
I still wanna buy a whole heap! lol...just wanted to know if it was cheaper again through WAU....(even though they's already cheap massa!)
I still wanna buy a whole heap! lol...just wanted to know if it was cheaper again through WAU....(even though they's already cheap massa!)
What's the iridescent medium like?
Does it make the paints pearlescent, or closer to a metallic? Sounds like it could be handy on power weapons/magic weapons :-)
Does it make the paints pearlescent, or closer to a metallic? Sounds like it could be handy on power weapons/magic weapons :-)
hey, i was just thinkking about that as well. sparticus, you seem to be the man in the know, could you tell us exactly what it does?
WargamerAU provides an easy avenue for ordering these products online. Plus the confidence that you are dealing with a man with great INTEGRITY, Mark Fenlon. I have also witnessed these products in action, and they have the WAU seal of approval. All questions are most welcomed and they will be answered by Mark personally at derivanminis@wargamerau.com
Thanks everyone
Stan
Thanks everyone
Stan
I picked up spartan red last night, having run out of red gore. While not the same colour, meaning I had to repaint the bits on one model that already had red gore on them, I was very impressed with its cover and it dries really matt. I now want to upgrade all my colours.
Iridescent medium
Added to black and you can create your own gun metal, add alot and you will get silver.
I used it on dragons to get nice metallic coloured dragon scales.
TY
Added to black and you can create your own gun metal, add alot and you will get silver.
I used it on dragons to get nice metallic coloured dragon scales.
TY
thanks for that tyberius. also, supergeek, what is the consistency of the paint like?? is it thinner than GW's?
I've found so far that it is a little thinner but more pigment (if that makes sense) I used it straight out of the bottle (i'm lazy) and it gave a really even coating.
nice... might have to pic up some grey and whites real soon...
It is heavy with pigment, so many people consider the paint thick and have to thin it with water. Still this is a very personal choice and I have used some colours without watering down. (chestnut comes to mind)
It will still give a good coat when thinned a little (because of its pigment levels).
To my mind that means the 36ml will last abit longer.
The 36ml bottles of paint at the Derivan Mini price also means I'm more willing to experiment with the paint and not treat ever drop like gold not to be wasted.
I could buy two non metalic 36ml (72mls total) Derivan minis for a total of $11.20 which is still cheaper that three 12ml bottles (36mls total) of another brand costing $12. Even two 36ml bottles of Derivan Mini metallics is only marginally more expensive that three 12ml bottles of another brand.
Merry Christmas, and enjoy your painting.
It will still give a good coat when thinned a little (because of its pigment levels).
To my mind that means the 36ml will last abit longer.
The 36ml bottles of paint at the Derivan Mini price also means I'm more willing to experiment with the paint and not treat ever drop like gold not to be wasted.
I could buy two non metalic 36ml (72mls total) Derivan minis for a total of $11.20 which is still cheaper that three 12ml bottles (36mls total) of another brand costing $12. Even two 36ml bottles of Derivan Mini metallics is only marginally more expensive that three 12ml bottles of another brand.
Merry Christmas, and enjoy your painting.
Technically you should thin your paints anyway
Well, I thinks I is sold brudda! I have a number of grays to replace soon (yup, good old gray) and a few browns too so I reckons I'll gives it a go precious!
Sounds like the goods to me. So sick of the variable quality of the Citadel range. Definately ordering me a set - in fact just going through the process now.
Dude, sounds like you're buying yerself a sweet christmas present. MERRY CHRISTMAS and a MiNi new YeAr.... :-)
Hey, I don't want a Mini New Year... I want a big New Year full of lots of minis... 
well, me=geting the whole set 
With that much good feedback and reports, how can i not.
-Bender-
With that much good feedback and reports, how can i not.
-Bender-
Man. I wish I could say that.
*jealous*
*jealous*
Does the irrdescent medium do what I think it does?
Derivan Paint Review
Well, I got my set the other day in the post, and whilst I haven't tried out everything just yet, I do have some feedback to put up here. Please note this is MY experience, and may be different to yours.
I've tried out all 6 metallics, 2 inks and about two dozen colours so far. Not yet played with the mediums or primers. So far, well, see below:
Please note : this short review includes the details of a small technical issue that I have had. Just because I have seen this does NOT mean you will!!! I incude it here to be complete, AND to assist anyone else who may find a similar thing with any brand of paint. I don't consider this to be a problem in any way - in fact I can't recommend these paints highly enough.
Colours
These are superb. Dead flat finish (if you thought the Citadel ones were flat, you will get a shock when you use these), nice flow from the bottle, paint combines well (only a brief agitation needed and you're on your way). Thins down OK, although I would recommend adding a decent amount of flow enhancer to your water (I have been using 25% flow enhancer / 75% water) if you want to thin significantly, particularly for washes. As a comparison, I used to use about 5% flow enhancer to make a difference with citadel paints - shows you how much finer the Derivans are - much less prone to separating when thinned. You don't NEED to thin them down if you don't want to - certainly the "non-thinner" painters among us would benefit from these. Excellent dry-brushing and blending capability too. Drybrush fans will LOVE these.
Colours are rich, but I would say somewhat less intense than the equivalent Citadels. This isn't a bad thing though, as you can easily "pop" the colours with a bit of varnish or sealant. Bottles are solid, easy to control your paint output, and seem to seal nicely. Match-ups to most of the Citadel range, although if you want that Terracotta one, you'll need to mix it up yourself - the Chestnut colours aren't a spot-on match. Everything else seems to be there. A shame there isn't a match for the discontinued Leprous Brown for the NMM fans out there.
Verdict: What are you waiting for ? Get some! They are truly excellent !!!
Inks
They're inks. They work exactly as they should. Slightly more matt finish when dry than the GW "high gloss" inks, otherwise not a lot I can say about them. My only complaint with these is that they only come in 6 colours. I love inks - I'd like an ink for each colour in the range.
Verdict: No problems here, although get ready to mix for the less common colours. A brown would have been nice though (I hate mixing for brown).
Metallics
This is where it gets interesting. I've tried them all, and I have some interesting results, so I'll go through them in three groups - the golds, silvers and red-metals. Silvers are excellent, but the gunmetal is VERY different from the Citadel Boltgun, so TEST IT OUT before you work on something important. Its not bad - far from it, just different. You can build this one up in layers, its a MUCH darker metallic. Expect to have to mix it with the Silver to get a mid-tone. Silver is VERY pale, which IMO is awesome, it does some truly excellent highlighting on hard edges. So both of these are terrific. Golds - the Gold colour is great, goes on nicely (very good coverage), good results. Not as "red" as the Citadel Shining Gold, which is nice (you can red it up with some Copper or Chestnut Ink). Light Gold is very much like Burnished Gold, but a bit deeper in tone (ie: this one works without an undercoat, UNLIKE Burnished).
Lastly, the Red-Metals (Copper and Bronze). I had some trouble with both of these (same problem for them both) - despite shaking for several minutes, etc - they came out separated. It frustrated me enough to write to Mark, who very helpfully tested one himself, but didn't have the same problem. I have since discovered what the problem is, and have worked out a way to correct it. So for those of you who have this problem, and it may affect any metallic paint I believe, here is the solution.
The problem is caused during transit (I think) - when the paint separates in the bottle. Normally, you just shake it and it re-combines, but in THIS case, a glob of the suspension medium somehow gets stuck in the nozzle of the bottle. Hence, everything BELOW it is fine, but anything above it (or traces IN it) don't mix up properly (or at all). Symptoms are easy to spot - when you try to dispense the paint, you get a glob of suspension. I think a bit of air must create a slight drying of this glob, because there seems to be nothing you can do to re-mix the paint back into it.
The solution - shake well. Remove the lid from the bottle (it unscrews), and purge the glob of suspension. The, let the paint in the lid drain back into the bottle (takes a minute or two). Re-cap the bottle, shake well, and you're back in action. I've had to do this with both Copper and Bronze.
Most importantly - once I had done this, the Copper and Bronze are excellent - great coverage, etc. You can even thin them a bit, although I have found that thinning ANY of the non-silver metallics needs to be done with something other than water (well, look at this - a bottle of iridescant medium...). They really don't need a lot of thinning though.
Verdict: These are really nice. MUCH finer than the Citadel ones, the metals will look a bit flatter and smoother. I love that you can build them up in layers so easily - people who do "true metallics" will find these superb.
Overall
Definately recommend the whole set to everyone. Those of you starting out in the hobby - do yourself a favour and start with the right paints. These qualify as the right paints!!! I don't want to shoot too many holes in Citadel paints here, but compared to these ones, they just don't measure up. The Derivan paints are quality paints, and the quality has been consistant - which was my major beef with Citadel.I can't recommend these highly enough.
I look forwards to displaying some work using these paints in the near future. I'm quite sure that my work will improve as a result of using these paints.
Well, I got my set the other day in the post, and whilst I haven't tried out everything just yet, I do have some feedback to put up here. Please note this is MY experience, and may be different to yours.
I've tried out all 6 metallics, 2 inks and about two dozen colours so far. Not yet played with the mediums or primers. So far, well, see below:
Please note : this short review includes the details of a small technical issue that I have had. Just because I have seen this does NOT mean you will!!! I incude it here to be complete, AND to assist anyone else who may find a similar thing with any brand of paint. I don't consider this to be a problem in any way - in fact I can't recommend these paints highly enough.
Colours
These are superb. Dead flat finish (if you thought the Citadel ones were flat, you will get a shock when you use these), nice flow from the bottle, paint combines well (only a brief agitation needed and you're on your way). Thins down OK, although I would recommend adding a decent amount of flow enhancer to your water (I have been using 25% flow enhancer / 75% water) if you want to thin significantly, particularly for washes. As a comparison, I used to use about 5% flow enhancer to make a difference with citadel paints - shows you how much finer the Derivans are - much less prone to separating when thinned. You don't NEED to thin them down if you don't want to - certainly the "non-thinner" painters among us would benefit from these. Excellent dry-brushing and blending capability too. Drybrush fans will LOVE these.
Colours are rich, but I would say somewhat less intense than the equivalent Citadels. This isn't a bad thing though, as you can easily "pop" the colours with a bit of varnish or sealant. Bottles are solid, easy to control your paint output, and seem to seal nicely. Match-ups to most of the Citadel range, although if you want that Terracotta one, you'll need to mix it up yourself - the Chestnut colours aren't a spot-on match. Everything else seems to be there. A shame there isn't a match for the discontinued Leprous Brown for the NMM fans out there.
Verdict: What are you waiting for ? Get some! They are truly excellent !!!
Inks
They're inks. They work exactly as they should. Slightly more matt finish when dry than the GW "high gloss" inks, otherwise not a lot I can say about them. My only complaint with these is that they only come in 6 colours. I love inks - I'd like an ink for each colour in the range.
Verdict: No problems here, although get ready to mix for the less common colours. A brown would have been nice though (I hate mixing for brown).
Metallics
This is where it gets interesting. I've tried them all, and I have some interesting results, so I'll go through them in three groups - the golds, silvers and red-metals. Silvers are excellent, but the gunmetal is VERY different from the Citadel Boltgun, so TEST IT OUT before you work on something important. Its not bad - far from it, just different. You can build this one up in layers, its a MUCH darker metallic. Expect to have to mix it with the Silver to get a mid-tone. Silver is VERY pale, which IMO is awesome, it does some truly excellent highlighting on hard edges. So both of these are terrific. Golds - the Gold colour is great, goes on nicely (very good coverage), good results. Not as "red" as the Citadel Shining Gold, which is nice (you can red it up with some Copper or Chestnut Ink). Light Gold is very much like Burnished Gold, but a bit deeper in tone (ie: this one works without an undercoat, UNLIKE Burnished).
Lastly, the Red-Metals (Copper and Bronze). I had some trouble with both of these (same problem for them both) - despite shaking for several minutes, etc - they came out separated. It frustrated me enough to write to Mark, who very helpfully tested one himself, but didn't have the same problem. I have since discovered what the problem is, and have worked out a way to correct it. So for those of you who have this problem, and it may affect any metallic paint I believe, here is the solution.
The problem is caused during transit (I think) - when the paint separates in the bottle. Normally, you just shake it and it re-combines, but in THIS case, a glob of the suspension medium somehow gets stuck in the nozzle of the bottle. Hence, everything BELOW it is fine, but anything above it (or traces IN it) don't mix up properly (or at all). Symptoms are easy to spot - when you try to dispense the paint, you get a glob of suspension. I think a bit of air must create a slight drying of this glob, because there seems to be nothing you can do to re-mix the paint back into it.
The solution - shake well. Remove the lid from the bottle (it unscrews), and purge the glob of suspension. The, let the paint in the lid drain back into the bottle (takes a minute or two). Re-cap the bottle, shake well, and you're back in action. I've had to do this with both Copper and Bronze.
Most importantly - once I had done this, the Copper and Bronze are excellent - great coverage, etc. You can even thin them a bit, although I have found that thinning ANY of the non-silver metallics needs to be done with something other than water (well, look at this - a bottle of iridescant medium...). They really don't need a lot of thinning though.
Verdict: These are really nice. MUCH finer than the Citadel ones, the metals will look a bit flatter and smoother. I love that you can build them up in layers so easily - people who do "true metallics" will find these superb.
Overall
Definately recommend the whole set to everyone. Those of you starting out in the hobby - do yourself a favour and start with the right paints. These qualify as the right paints!!! I don't want to shoot too many holes in Citadel paints here, but compared to these ones, they just don't measure up. The Derivan paints are quality paints, and the quality has been consistant - which was my major beef with Citadel.I can't recommend these highly enough.
I look forwards to displaying some work using these paints in the near future. I'm quite sure that my work will improve as a result of using these paints.
Aww I hate you
Now I really want a set. *sulks in the corner*
Now I really want a set. *sulks in the corner*
Thanks for the review Voyager, its great to have a customer review on the Derivan range of paints.
No problem - and those who know me will know that I don't mince words or pull punches - if I DIDN'T like them, believe me, I'd have said so. In this case however, there isn't much to complain about except maybe "Why couldn't I have had these 2 years ago???"
So, can you make a good armour wash with Derivan stuff?
Define "armour wash" - isn't that just a black ink wash + dishwashing detergent ?
Nice review voyager. Just a quick question, how much did the full set set you back INLUDING postage? and is that with the WAU member discount. Zordana and I were having troubles figuring it out :-?
Seems i have found part of my birthday present this year (it iwll be my 18th so i BETTER get more than just paint.)
Seems i have found part of my birthday present this year (it iwll be my 18th so i BETTER get more than just paint.)
*crosses her fingers that both willy and herself get paints for their birthdays*
There are many reasons why I decided to lend my name to these brand new paints and retail them on my website. Here are a few:
1. They were designed in consultation with miniature painters.
2. They are a superior quality product, imho the best on the market.
3. They are the best value for money against any other range.
4. They are made here in Australia.
I dont know how to put it other than to say that these paints are simply the best thing to happen within the miniatures painting arena for as long as I can remember. So far everyone who has purchased them from me and used them - love them! That includes guys in the US, UK, New Zealand and here.
Its great to see that word is starting to spread about them in the gaming/painting community and especially here on WAU. I just want to confirm that what you are hearing/reading about them is absolutely true. They are brilliant, and whether you buy them from me or another stockist you the figure painter will be the winner here.
If you have any questions about them at all just ask and I'll do my best to respond.
Best Regards
Mark Fenlon
(Mark Fenlon Miniatures)
1. They were designed in consultation with miniature painters.
2. They are a superior quality product, imho the best on the market.
3. They are the best value for money against any other range.
4. They are made here in Australia.
I dont know how to put it other than to say that these paints are simply the best thing to happen within the miniatures painting arena for as long as I can remember. So far everyone who has purchased them from me and used them - love them! That includes guys in the US, UK, New Zealand and here.
Its great to see that word is starting to spread about them in the gaming/painting community and especially here on WAU. I just want to confirm that what you are hearing/reading about them is absolutely true. They are brilliant, and whether you buy them from me or another stockist you the figure painter will be the winner here.
If you have any questions about them at all just ask and I'll do my best to respond.
Best Regards
Mark Fenlon
(Mark Fenlon Miniatures)
My only issue at the moment is a lack of Victorian stockists.
R
R
Not an issue Rargh!
WargamerAU & Mark Fenlon Miniatures provide an avenue for online ordering of the complete range of Derivan Minis paints.
WargamerAU & Mark Fenlon Miniatures provide an avenue for online ordering of the complete range of Derivan Minis paints.
Rargh, I recently sent a full set to a Victorian customer. A whopping 4kg of paint only cost $10.50 in postage and it got there within 2 days.
Mark
Mark
[quote=MarkFenlon]I recently sent a full set to a Victorian customer[/quote]
That would have been me. And for those who asked, $360.50 was the full set inc. postage to Melbourne and the WAU discount.
That would have been me. And for those who asked, $360.50 was the full set inc. postage to Melbourne and the WAU discount.
Thanks for that voyager. *counts pennies*
DAMN... still not there yet.
DAMN... still not there yet.
I've completed 2 models using a mix of Derivans and Citadel paints now - nothing spectacular, thats for sure, but then again, I wasnted some practice before I tried anything more complex. I'll post some pics up this evening so you can see the results. I'll also try to paint something a little more impressive to really show off their quality.
So far I've done my Standard Bearer (all Derivan except the Nauseating Blue), plus I was writing a tutorial on army painting for some friends, and I've done an Ultramarine (all Derivan except the Boltgun Metal).
So far I've done my Standard Bearer (all Derivan except the Nauseating Blue), plus I was writing a tutorial on army painting for some friends, and I've done an Ultramarine (all Derivan except the Boltgun Metal).
Oh thanks voyager, that would be handy.
At least you have pennies, willy, I dont even have that yet.
At least you have pennies, willy, I dont even have that yet.
is it 350 including all paints and mediums?
Yes everything, it will cost AU$350.00 for the COMPLETE set, plus postage.
I believe Mark sent a shipment to Victoria from NSW and it cost something like $12 dollars for 4KG of paint, with a 2 day transit
Cheers
I believe Mark sent a shipment to Victoria from NSW and it cost something like $12 dollars for 4KG of paint, with a 2 day transit
Cheers
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