Bunyip
Mar 11 2007, 12:39 PM
hey everyone,
i was wondering the best way too paint white armour and i thought this would be the best way too find out how it could be done. im new too wargamer au and it seems like a great site. so sorry if this stuffs up cause its all new too me
EmpireGuard
Mar 11 2007, 12:50 PM
do you mean what the best way to paint armour onto a white undercoat or how to paint armour White?
Bunyip
Mar 11 2007, 01:10 PM
QUOTE(EmpireGuard @ Mar 11 2007, 12:50 PM)

do you mean what the best way to paint armour onto a white undercoat or how to paint armour White?
how too paint actual white armour sorry about that
EmpireGuard
Mar 11 2007, 01:17 PM
that's Ok that what I thought you where asking, But Its a very specific Question. I've never tried to do it before but I would paint the armour silver first then paint on the white trying to make it thin enough that some silver show thought. Then Mix some white paint with blue or black ink (this will give you a non-glossy ink affect) brush on the armour and then do some white highlighting.
SteveFirth
Mar 11 2007, 01:33 PM
White is obviously hard to do due to streaking. The streaks are left from the bristles of the brush forming patterns as the pigment is applied. You could apply many thin layers to even out the streaks or try my method where I don't let the bristles touch the surface of the mini. If you dilute the paint a little and get a brush with a beaten up or hooked end, pick up a small drop of paint and let it touch the mini, then drag out the paint a little just using the tip of the brush touching the surface of the paint, using surface tension. Don't try to cover too much area or you will thin the paint too much and start to form patterns. Pick up another drop, place it near the first and do small circles to blend the areas together, everything needs to be nice and wet, the paint will dry at the edges first, so keep adding drops and spreading to minimise drying, any dry bits will lead to patterns in the paint. Leave to dry and do not touch the wet areas or you will get marks. If you don't thin the paint first it will obscure detail and not spread evenly, if you thin too much it won't cover well and you lose surface tension.
When dry it should have an even coat with no brushmarks.
White is the hardest to do, it does not cover well so use a spray undercoat first then a white topcoat for a smooth finish.
There are some pics of this method in Insurgent #2.
Whatever colour you choose will look the same on the painted surface as it does in the bottle as there is a dense, but not too thick, packing of the pigment.
Good luck,
Steve
dontshoot
Mar 11 2007, 01:39 PM
What are you trying to paint and what is the effect you are after?
When you say armour you you mean Tanks or do you mean armour that is worn over the body?
Do you want it to look clean and crisp or are you after a white wash affect, the way tanks where painted in WWII during winter campains?
Some tips, the best whites are actually build up from a black background, Im not going to explain it to you because there are some many great writeups already on the net.
Heres a link to my fav:
http://www.brushthralls.com/Mambo/index.ph...3&Itemid=43http://www.brushthralls.com/Mambo/index.ph...3&Itemid=43Ange
EmpireGuard
Mar 11 2007, 01:45 PM
QUOTE(dontshoot @ Mar 11 2007, 02:39 PM)

When you say armour you you mean Tanks or do you mean armour that is worn over the body?
I didn't even think about that If you meant white Tanks the What I said wont make much sense
Bunyip
Mar 11 2007, 01:59 PM
Its a necromunda enforcer leader im looking for a crisp but shaded effect too carry through the squad.
Jester of Death
Mar 15 2007, 07:45 AM
if you want nice quick and easy do a base coat of either fortress grey or space wolves grey, then do a couple of thin coats of white over that leaving your base colour as shading.
JoD
infermofperpus
Mar 15 2007, 11:19 AM
White is not so tricky, it just requires patience.
Firstly if your on a black undercoat use a light grey colour as your basecoat (I like VMC Sea Grey)
Then start painting multiple thin coats of white waiting for each coat to dry before applying the next. If you paint whilst still wet you could get brush marks. I find it takes about 7-10 coats to get good coverage
Make sure you use clean water and a clean pallete as any paint even dry can tint the white.
Hope that helps.
Infermo
EmpireGuard
Mar 15 2007, 11:27 AM
you could also paint them the same way as deathwing are done.
Salamander
Mar 16 2007, 02:55 AM
QUOTE(Bunyip @ Mar 11 2007, 01:09 PM)

hey everyone,
i was wondering the best way too paint white armour and i thought this would be the best way too find out how it could be done. im new too wargamer au and it seems like a great site. so sorry if this stuffs up cause its all new too me

White marines. What colour doesn't appear on those marines? White. The only way I have found to get white marines, or white anything looking good, is not to paint them white. Those marines (mine) are actually khaki. Specifically, Kommando Khaki over Graveyard Earth, highlighted up.
Kurgan the Lurker
Mar 16 2007, 10:06 AM
I do white (in most cases) as follows:
This is all ove a black primer and you can alter the mix ratios depending on how many layers you want.
GW Space Wolf Grey
GW Ghost Grey
2 parts Ghost Grey/1 part GW Skull White
1 part Ghost Grey/1 part Skull White
1 part Ghost Grey/2 parts Skull White
now you can stop there if you want or (as I did with this apoth) go to a straight Skull White line highlight for the final touch.
Pics are links since 2.1.7 of the software doesn't have the auto resizer
Ebriel 1Ebriel 1Ebriel 1
Zippy Wonderdog
Mar 16 2007, 10:20 AM
Using Greys will give you a cold white, for a warm white use a medium brown, bone then white. for a better gradient just use a 50/50 mix between each main colour.
Fest
Mar 16 2007, 11:17 AM
Going up through the greys is the basic technique, but as stated before you'd certainly want to use a brown colour if you're looking for a 'warmer' white. The grey method doesn't look organic at all, so avoid it for fur etc unless you're painting an arctic creature. Another possibility for something "ice white" is to use blue... but that would certainly be an exception.
GT - that is an awesome site, do you mind if I tell people about it?
QUOTE(Fest @ Mar 16 2007, 11:17 AM)

GT - that is an awesome site, do you mind if I tell people about it?
Thanks - and by all means pass it on - the link is in my sig.
Bunyip
Mar 16 2007, 07:53 PM
thanks for the all the teqniques guys muchly appreciated. now its time too sit down and try them out. salamander the space marines look awesome btw
Salamander
Mar 17 2007, 02:35 AM
QUOTE(Bunyip @ Mar 16 2007, 08:23 PM)

salamander the space marines look awesome btw
I know. Thanks. They're much better in the flesh, my photography skills lag behind my painting skills quite significantly. I can give a more detailed tutorial if you want. I was somewhat drunkish when I made that post.
Seer Master Sinigal
Mar 17 2007, 02:46 AM
QUOTE(Bunyip @ Mar 16 2007, 06:53 PM)

salamander the space marines look awesome btw
I find them quite perculiar myself. Though well-painted, I just can't get the image of a white Landcruiser with red dirt packed around the mudguards out of my mind!
Bunyip
Mar 17 2007, 09:48 PM
QUOTE(Salamander @ Mar 17 2007, 02:35 AM)

I know. Thanks. They're much better in the flesh, my photography skills lag behind my painting skills quite significantly. I can give a more detailed tutorial if you want. I was somewhat drunkish when I made that post.
that would be great mate is it similar to the dark angels death wing armour?
theshufflingzombie
Mar 17 2007, 10:28 PM
NEVER use pure white. its not even worth trying with. as you can see with salamanders models, even the lightest bits are not white (even though you would think it if you whernt paying any particular attention to it)
start with a white undercoat, ink the armour down in a medium/light tone (my personaly favourite is ice blue mixed with space wolves grey) you should then take this colour, mix it in with the white so it looks signiffigantly lighter, and then paint it on like you would anything else. shade it up, and use a hard straight highlight of white mixed with a little water to get a crisp edge.
Salamander
Mar 18 2007, 10:17 PM
The actual colour of my marines is a warm off-white. "Bone white" is probably the most accurate description. I'm not sure how the eavy metal team painted the new Deathwing, but it is a very different effect to the one I achieved (and was going for). I start with a basecoat of kommando khaki over a wite undercoat, and wash the recesses with a watered down graveyard earth. Then I build up with succesively lighter layers of skull white/kommando khaki mix. Since I was aiming for an ancient, weathered look, the highlights are laid on in a steaked pattern rather than highlighting the upper edges of each armour plate.



Most likely I will end up painting my deathwing in the same manner when I get around to the planned DA army.
Bunyip
Mar 19 2007, 12:52 PM
looks pretty sweet mate. i had the same idea for my d/a army for when i finally sell all my tau stuff. u dont mind me using your paint scheme for my death wing?
Toby
Mar 21 2007, 09:12 PM
Thats some fine work there Salamander!
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