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adreal
well me and sam have mentioned using it, and when ever it get's brought up people tend to look at through rose tinted glasses. It can be abusive, and easy to break (lord with speed and flight, or a dreadnought with speed, both cheating btw), but if your sensible, i think it can work.

With that in mind, anytime i use chaos from now on, ill be using the 3.5 dex, cause i think it'll be more fun, and i can use stuff like mutations biggrin.gif

What im thinking of will look something like this

Lord
Mark
Drugs
Strength
Spikey bitz
Power weapon
Steed
Bolt pistol
Visage
Armour
Rune
Mutation

Lt
Mark
Bike
Strength
Power weapon
Spikey bitz
Visage
(maybe) drugs

Chosen
steeds
Marks
Power weapons
Visage

Csm
Marks
Sonics
Champ
Strenth
Mutation
Visage
Power weapon

Csm
Marks
Sonics
Champ
Mutation
Visage
Powerfist

Csm
Marks
Infiltrate
Metlaguns
Champ
Combi melta
Powerfist

Bikers
Mark
Melta
Champ
Powerfist
Visage

Pred
Dakka

Dread
Blastmaster
Doom siren

Dread
Sonics
Missile
Visage
Mark
greenpotato
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adreal
QUOTE(greenpotato @ May 25 2010, 12:34 PM) *

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Why do i get the feeling to plan to unlesh chosen tzeentch disc riders on me

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adreal
Lord (60pts)
Mark of slaanesh (10 pts) fearless and has warp screem (lowers I by 1)
Combat Drugs (25pts)
Daemonic Strength (10pts) +1 S
Spikey bitz (10pts) re-roll 1 to hit roll
Power weapon (15pts)
Bolt Pistol (1pt)
Steed of Slaanesh (25pts) +1 A and Daemonic speed
Daemonic Visage (5pts) -1 Ld if you loose a combat against him
Daemonic Armour (20pts) 2+ armour save
Daemonic Aura (15pts) 5+ invun save
Frag Grenades (1pts total)
=198pts

Lieutenant (45)
Mark of slaanesh (10 pts) fearless and has warp screem (lowers I by 1)
Bike (30pts)
Daemonic Strength (10pts) +1 S
Power weapon (15pts)
Daemonic Visage (5pts) -1 Ld if you loose a combat against him
Both Grenades (3pts total)
=118pts

4 Chosen (17pts each)
Champions (10pts each)
Mark of slaanesh (5 pts each) fearless and has warp screem (lowers I by 1)
Steed of Slaanesh (25pts) +1 A and Daemonic speed
Power weapon (10pts each)
Both Grenades (3pts each)
Daemonic Visage (2pts each) -1 Ld if you loose a combat against him
Basic Icon (free)
=288pts

6 Chaos Space Marines (14pts each)
Mark of slaanesh (5 pts each) fearless and has warp screem (lowers I by 1)
6 Sonic Blasters (5pts each) range 24" Str4 AP5 Assault 2 or Heavy 3
Champion (free)
Daemonic Strength (5pts) +1 S
Daemonic Mutation (5pts) +1 A
Daemonic Visage (2pts) -1 Ld if you loose a combat against him
Power weapon (10pts)
Rhino (50pts)
Smoke (3pts)
=219pts

6 Chaos Space Marines (14pts each)
Mark of slaanesh (5 pts each) fearless and has warp screem (lowers I by 1)
6 Sonic Blasters (5pts each) range 24" Str4 AP5 Assault 2 or Heavy 3
Champion (free)
Daemonic Mutation (5pts) +1 A
Daemonic Visage (2pts) -1 Ld if you loose a combat against him
Power fist (15pts)
Rhino (50pts)
Smoke (3pts)
=219pts

6 Chaos Space Marines (14pts each)
Mark of slaanesh (5 pts each) fearless and has warp screem (lowers I by 1)
Infiltrate (3pts each)
2 Meltaguns (10pts each)
Champion (free)
Power fist (15pts)
=167pts

6 Daemonettes (15pts each)
=90pts

6 Bikers (34pts each)
Mark of slaanesh (5 pts each) fearless and has warp screem (lowers I by 1)
2 Meltaguns (10pts each)
4 Sonic Blasters (2pts each) range 24" Str4 AP5 Assault 2 or Heavy 3
Champion (free)
Power fist (15pts)
Daemonic Visage (2pts) -1 Ld if you loose a combat against him
Daemonic Mutation (5pts) +1 A
Basic Icon (free)
=284pts

Chaos Predator (85pts)
Autocannon (15pts)
Heavy Bolters (10pts)
Mutated Hull (30pts)
=140pts

Chaos Dreadnought (75pts)
Warp Amp (20pts) - 1 Ld within 12", -2 Ld within 6", -3 Ld in base to base
Blastmaster (35pts) Varied Rng:36" Str:5 AP:5 Assault2,pinning. Single Rng:36" Str:8 AP:4 Heavy 1, Blast.
Doom Siren (12pts) Rng:Template Str:4 AP:5 Assault1, no cover save
=142pts

Chaos Dreadnought (75pts)
Warp Amp (20pts) - 1 Ld within 12", -2 Ld within 6", -3 Ld in base to base
Twin-Linked Sonic Blasters (30pts) range 24" Str4 AP5 Assault 2 or Heavy 3
Missile Launcher (10pts)
=135pts

That should be about 1964pts, but I get to use some fun model's and it shouldn't be too OTT
greenpotato
want a 2000pt game tonight?
adreal
QUOTE(greenpotato @ May 27 2010, 10:31 AM) *

want a 2000pt game tonight?


well I have a headache right now, and one of my chosen (or the lord) needs his boob-worm fixed

um I also will have smoke launchers on my rhino's tongue.gif ,what will you field (don't care what, just curious)
greenpotato
QUOTE(adreal @ May 27 2010, 10:50 AM) *

well I have a headache right now, and one of my chosen (or the lord) needs his boob-worm fixed

um I also will have smoke launchers on my rhino's tongue.gif ,what will you field (don't care what, just curious)


Probably the 2000pt Khorne army I used against j the other day

5 Khorne squads, 3 in Land Raiders, 2 in Rhinos

But I havent decided yet
adreal
QUOTE(greenpotato @ May 27 2010, 10:54 AM) *

Probably the 2000pt Khorne army I used against j the other day

5 Khorne squads, 3 in Land Raiders, 2 in Rhinos

But I havent decided yet


urgh land raiders

that'll learn me for not packing in the melta spam (and noise marines could actually take a melta weapon to)

lol na should be okay....untill we play the game biggrin.gif I might not be up for it though, feeling crap
greenpotato
Hq
Sorceror with Warptime, Slaneesh and Meltabomb 135pts

Troops 1205pts
9 Chaos marines, Power weapon Champion Meltabomb Khorne, Flamer 205pts
10 Chaos marines, Power weapon Champion, Meltabomb, Khorne, 2 flamers 225pts
10 Chaos marines, Power weapon Champion, Meltabomb, Khorne, 2 flamers 225pts
10 Chaos marines, Power Fist Champion, Khorne 2 Meltaguns Rhino 275pts
10 Chaos marines, Power Fist Champion, Khorne 2 Meltaguns Rhino 275pts

Heavy Support 660pts
Land Raider 220pts
Land Raider 220pts
Land Raider 220pts

2000pts
adreal
QUOTE(greenpotato @ May 27 2010, 11:21 AM) *

Hq
Sorceror with Warptime, Slaneesh and Meltabomb 135pts

Troops 1205pts
9 Chaos marines, Power weapon Champion Meltabomb Khorne, Flamer 205pts
10 Chaos marines, Power weapon Champion, Meltabomb, Khorne, 2 flamers 225pts
10 Chaos marines, Power weapon Champion, Meltabomb, Khorne, 2 flamers 225pts
10 Chaos marines, Power Fist Champion, Khorne 2 Meltaguns Rhino 275pts
10 Chaos marines, Power Fist Champion, Khorne 2 Meltaguns Rhino 275pts

Heavy Support 660pts
Land Raider 220pts
Land Raider 220pts
Land Raider 220pts

2000pts


use the 3.5 dex, I dare ya tongue.gif

list as above, had to edited so I could get the points right
greenpotato
QUOTE(adreal @ May 27 2010, 11:31 AM) *

use the 3.5 dex, I dare ya tongue.gif



3.5 works for you but for me it means the land raiders are more expensive and dont have assalt ramps, the squads are more expensive and I can only get 30 marines sad.gif

I'm not going to use 3.5 but if I did this would be the list;

Hq
Khorne Lord , Mutation, Axe of Khorne, demonic essence bolt pistol 116pts

Troops
9 Chaos marines,272pts
Bolt Pistol CCW Mutated Power weapon Champion Combimelta, Meltabomb Khorne, Furious Charge Flamer, Banner of Khorne
10 Chaos marines, 300pts
Bolt Pistol CCW Mutated Power weapon Champion, Combimelta Meltabomb, Khorne, Furious Charge 2 flamers Banner of Khorne
10 Chaos marines,300pts
Bolt Pistol CCW Mutated Power weapon Champion, Combimelta Meltabomb, Khorne, Furious Charge 2 flamers Banner of Khorne

10 Bloodletters 260pts

Heavy Support
Land Raider, 250pts
Land Raider 250pts
Land Raider 250pts
adreal
QUOTE(greenpotato @ May 27 2010, 12:16 PM) *

3.5 works for you but for me it means the land raiders are more expensive and dont have assalt ramps, the squads are more expensive and I can only get 30 marines sad.gif

I'm not going to use 3.5 but if I did this would be the list;

Hq
Khorne Lord , Mutation, Axe of Khorne, demonic essence bolt pistol 116pts

Troops
9 Chaos marines,272pts
Bolt Pistol CCW Mutated Power weapon Champion Combimelta, Meltabomb Khorne, Furious Charge Flamer, Banner of Khorne
10 Chaos marines, 300pts
Bolt Pistol CCW Mutated Power weapon Champion, Combimelta Meltabomb, Khorne, Furious Charge 2 flamers Banner of Khorne
10 Chaos marines,300pts
Bolt Pistol CCW Mutated Power weapon Champion, Combimelta Meltabomb, Khorne, Furious Charge 2 flamers Banner of Khorne

10 Bloodletters 260pts

Heavy Support
Land Raider, 250pts
Land Raider 250pts
Land Raider 250pts


was going to say you'll need icons, but then I saw them tongue.gif

I think anyone would let you assault out of a land raider when using the 3.5 dex, would be silly if you couldn't, so it's a 4.0 vs 3.5 dex showdown.......really wish I had more meltaguns instead of a fluffy bunny list

oh can i borrow two basic bikers, and I'll proxie up a extra steed guy (I have one more that need's repairs)
greenpotato
QUOTE(adreal @ May 27 2010, 12:28 PM) *

I think anyone would let you assault out of a land raider when using the 3.5 dex, would be silly if you couldn't,


In that case Ill ramdomize tonight 1-3=3.5 ed 4+=4th ed


QUOTE(adreal @ May 27 2010, 12:28 PM) *

oh can i borrow two basic bikers, and I'll proxie up a extra steed guy (I have one more that need's repairs)


Sure
adreal
QUOTE(greenpotato @ May 27 2010, 12:33 PM) *

In that case Ill ramdomize tonight 1-3=3.5 ed 4+=4th ed
Sure


sweet as

I don't care what dex you end up using, if you wanna go 4th ed, be my guest.......bbbbeeeeeeeee mmmmmmmmmyyyyyyyyyyyy gggggggguuuuuuuueeeeeeeesssssssssssssttttttttttttt!!!!

Whatever you think will be the most fun
Starfire
You guys are crazy, and you crack me up.

If you roll up 1 codex tonight Sam, why not simply use the other one tomorrow night?
greenpotato
oops

models with mark of Khorne cant buy flamers(or any ranged guns) in 3.5

so swap flamers for khornate chainaxes.
adreal
QUOTE(greenpotato @ May 27 2010, 01:50 PM) *

oops

models with mark of Khorne cant buy flamers(or any ranged guns) in 3.5

so swap flamers for khornate chainaxes.


are you sure?

no wait I see it
adreal
well, we played to a draw, thing's i learnt were bikers cost way to much when infiltrating marines do the same job, much cheaper, armour 14 preds rock my socks off, and my chosen\lord are brutle, will make changes later
greenpotato
QUOTE(adreal @ May 28 2010, 08:18 AM) *

thing's i learnt


Berserkers in 3.5 = armata_PDT_33.gif
adreal
do spawn take up a transport slot?? And could they deep strike if thier masters do, just trying to work out how to use my fiend models

Also i may be using 4.0 if i make a space wolf tzeentch army......
adreal
Lord
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Combat Drugs
-Daemonic Strength
-Spikey bitz
-Power Weapon
-Steed of Slaanesh
-Bolt Pistol
-Daemonic Visage
-Daemonic Aura
-Daemonic Essence
-Both Grenades
=194pts

4 Chosen
-4 Champions
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Steeds of Slaanesh
-Power Weapons
-Both Grenades
-Daemonic Visage
-Daemonic Aura
=328pts

Keeper of Secrets
=160pts

12 Chaos Space Marines
-Mark of Slaanesh
-2 Meltaguns
-Infiltrate
-Both Grenades
-Champion
-Lightning Claws
-Daemonic Aura
=348pts

6 Chaos Space Marines
-Mark of Slaanesh
-6 Sonic Blasters
-Champion
-Daemonic Strength
-Daemoinc Mutation
-Daemonic Visage
-Power Weapon
-Rhino
-Smoke Launchers
=219pts

Chaos Space Marines
-Mark of Slaanesh
-6 Sonic Blasters
-Champion
-Daemoinc Mutation
-Daemonic Visage
-Power Fist
-Rhino
-Smoke Launchers
=219pts

Predator
-Auto Cannon
-Heavy Bolters
-Mutated Hull
=140pts

Predator
-Twin Linked Lascannons
-Lascannons
-Mutated Hull
=175pts

Dreadnought
-Warp Amp
-Blastmaster
-Doom Siren
-Mutated Hull
=172pts

That should be 1955, but pretty damn broken armata_PDT_11.gif
adreal
This will be what I'll use for 4.0 if I ever have to use it, if you don't like it, we can always play 3.5 biggrin.gif

HQ
Prince
-MoS
-Wings
-Lash

Prince
-MoS
-Wings
-Lash

TROOPS
6 Noise Marines
-5 Sonics
-1 Blastmaster

6 Noise Marines
-5 Sonics
-1 Blastmaster

6 Noise Marines
-5 Sonics
-1 Blastmaster

7 Noise Marines
-Champ with powerfist
-Rhino

7 Noise Marines
-Champ with power weapon and meltabombs
-Rhino

HEAVY SUPPORT
2 Oblits

2 Oblits

1 Defilier
Starfire
You're a weirdo
adreal
QUOTE(Starfire @ Jun 6 2010, 10:13 AM) *

You're a weirdo




What?? It's better to warn people of this stuff before just going, 'hey lets play a 2K game' then pulling out my 3.5 shenanigans. And if you insist on me playing 4.0, then it's better to warn you of what I'll be taking, I could just rock up with whatever, but then people might end up with a sour taste in the mouths from my perceived 'non friendly' play.
Starfire
You being a weirdo has nothing to do with you posting a 'non friendly' list (lol, I love it when I see Daemon Princes). I was just calling you a weirdo. tongue.gif

Considering some of the lists that get run in friendly games Brian, I doubt that there is too much danger of people getting sour tastes.
adreal
QUOTE(Starfire @ Jun 6 2010, 11:39 AM) *

You being a weirdo has nothing to do with you posting a 'non friendly' list (lol, I love it when I see Daemon Princes). I was just calling you a weirdo. tongue.gif

Considering some of the lists that get run in friendly games Brian, I doubt that there is too much danger of people getting sour tastes.



True, hence the amped up from my last foray in the 4.0 codex, but still, it's not nice when this stuff just gets sprung on you
greenpotato
Want a game against 3rd Ed Tyranids brian?
adreal
why not
Starfire
We should track down some 2nd ed rules.
adreal
QUOTE(Starfire @ Jun 6 2010, 04:36 PM) *

We should track down some 2nd ed rules.

They have rouge trader on scribd
greenpotato
*is writing 3ed tyranid list* smile.gif
*tyranid warriors with Deathspitter, 4+ sv and scy tals are 30pts* ohmy.gif
*T7 s7 Hive tyrant is 140pts* laugh.gif
*2+sv 4 attack carnifex is 106pts* ohmy.gif

I wrote a fairly solid 2000pt tyranid army.

then I realised it was only 1460pts armata_PDT_36.gif
greenpotato
HQ 491pts

Tyrant(new Genus) 182pts
+1 I
+1 S
+1 Sv
Implant attack
Warp blast
wings
2 Scything talons

Tyrant(new Genus) 309pts
+1 I
+1 S
+1 Sv
Implant attack
Tyrant has Muated Size (+1S, +1T)
2 Scything Talons
3 Tyrant Guard

Elites 621pts

9 Warriors(new Genus) 270pts
+1 S
+1 I
+1 Sv
9 Scything talons
9 Death Spitters

9 Warriors(new Genus) 351pts
+1WS
+1S
+1Sv
+1 I
Leaping
9 Scything talons
9 Rending claws

Troops 250pts

10 Spinegaunts 50pts
10 Spinegaunts 50pts
10 Spinegaunts 50pts
10 Spinegaunts 50pts
10 Spinegaunts 50pts

Fast Attack 260pts

5 Warriors(new Genus) 245pts
+1 Sv
+1 I
+1 S
Wings
5 Scytals
5 Rending Claws
Bioplazma

Heavy Support 389pts

3 Zoanthropes with Warp Blast 177pts

Carnifex (new Genus) 106pts
+1 I
+1 Sv
2 scything talons

Carnifex (new Genus) 106pts
+1 I
+1 Sv
2 scything talons

1996pts armata_PDT_34.gif
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