[40k] A 40K Hrud army, DONE! 4Mar08 Options

[Uber_Kroot]

First of all let me make a warning - this army diary is going to be nowhere near as fast as the last one!!
This army is another 'counts as' army very much like my in progress K'Nib army: http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=26953

OK whilst waiting for the last lamp to arrive for the last model on my K'Nib army there has been a whiring and a clanking in my brain... Then I started testing different armies for new conversion experiences - I should be writing but I seem to be in the 'modeling zone' at the moment. I decided on the Hrud. There is only one image of the Hrud - in the OLD 40K rulebook where they show the Necron Warrior, the Kroot with a carapace, a clawed fied and a hooded Hrud! There are however several references to them in various texts - space marines and IG cleaning out infestations of them, Hrud working for the Tau as mercs, etc. In Inquisitor (I think I remember correctly) they mention Hrud being masters of plasma tech and living beneath the human's civilisation... Sounds a bit skaven to me but I'll ignore that! lol!

At first I thought the Lost & Damned list would do the trick, but then the Imperial guard offered SOOO much more. Then after extensive online talks with DM about army theme I chose the following doctrines:
*Light Infantry - the Hrud are often refered to as an 'infestation' which clearly says infiltrate to me!
*Special Weapons Teams - These will be the infamous Hrud snipers.
*Chem Inhalers - this was a bit tricky, but the Hrud needed something to keep them together as an army. As the one image of them in the OLD codex is hooded I decided that they would be hooded WITH gas masks... But I think the idea that they are an infestation with little personal value was reason enough.
*Rough Riders - there needed to be someting strange in the army and I thought what better than to have champions on beasts riding into battle!!
*Xeno Mounts - see above!

HQ
*Command Platoon:
3 x Lasguns, 1 x Lascannon, Junior Officer with Las pistol & Pwr weapon, Veterans: medic & standard, Light Infantry, Chem inhalers
- 1st Special Weapons Sniper Team, 3 Sniper Rifles, Light Infantry, Chem inhalers
- 2nd Special Weapons Sniper Team, 3 Sniper Rifles, Light Infantry, Chem inhalers
- 1st Sentinel Squad, 2 Sentinels with Autocannon, Rough Terrain Mod
- Anti-tank squad, 3 Lascannon, Light Infantry, Chem inhalers

Troops
*1st Infantry Platoon
Command Squad, 3 x Lasguns, 1 x Lascannon, Junior Officer with Las pistol & Pwr weapon, Light Infantry, Chem inhalers
- Infantry Squad, 1 Autocannon (basically modeled as an AT rifle), Vet Sarge, Light Infantry, Chem inhalers
- Infantry Squad, 1 Autocannon, Vet Sarge, Light Infantry, Chem inhalers
*2nd Infantry Platoon
As the 1st

Fast Attack
*10 Rough Riders, 2 Meltaguns, the rest Laspistols & ccweapons, Xeno Mounts
including Rough Rider Veteran Sergeant, Honorific Imperialis (Heroic) with Pwr Weapon & Las Pistol
*2nd Sentinel Squad 2 Sentinels with Autocannon, Rough Terrain Mod
*3rd Sentinel Squad As the first
Points: 1,498
Total Models: 89

Now the choice for the models was easy - The new Night Goblins!! With their faces cut off and their hoods filed down they would be perfect. The weapons... Well seeing as they are 'masters' of plasma let's use all those space marine plasma pistols I've got lying around!! Now I've done a few test models so far - these are the basic troopers with lasguns (or Hrud with plasguns if you will!).



For the other models - I've got 10 old cold ones lying around which will make great mounts and the Sentinels will be buggies made out of ork warbikes!!

Now I've giving some thought to the Fluff - basically I think these guys are the greenies of the 40K universe... Recycling the filth of other races to further their own needs... Now like I said - the final touches of the K'Nib will be given priority over this the moment the lamp arrives and given that it's holidays and I'll have to do some parenting and writing, this army diary may take some time...

This post has been edited by Uber_Kroot: Mar 4 2008, 09:46 PM

[Lysander]

This will be one army diary i'll be watching, you might want to see if you can get your hands on white dwarf 284, there is a page about the Mordant 'Acid Dogs' and their battle with the Hrud.

[Nightgash]

Very nice. They are an interesting race after reading Xenology

Here is a scan of a picture from the book



I got a shock when I saw it as they were meant to be Space Skaven, just like how Squats were Dwarfs

[Uber_Kroot]

Very nice. They are an interesting race after reading Xenology
Here is a scan of a picture from the book


I got a shock when I saw it as they were meant to be Space Skaven, just like how Squats were Dwarfs

Wow that's awesome!! (any chance of you and me talking about what else is in that book? )
All I managed to find was a few notes scattered here and there... (their origional pic in 3rd ed has them kinda pestilent with a rats tail - but I decided against that!). Some of the notes I found:
 GUGANN Iron Warriors cleanse Hrud Warrens (pre HH). Thought to have wiped them out.
 PATERNUS GLORIEM — Imperial Navy Emperor-class vessel was infiltrated by the Hrud.
 983-985.M41 Creed and Kell fight through Hrud migration.

"The Hrud are a subterranean and evasive race, and their technology is based on plasma, an example being the Plasma Fusil."

"More recent fluff released has given the concept that the Hrud are based off the Jawas and Tusken Raiders raiders from that of Star Wars because they are supposed to have originally come from a desert world and that they are small and shadowy looking creatures who drape themselves in rags and cloaks. Another addition to this assumption is that they travel using large transport vehicles similar to a sandcrawler."

This post has been edited by Uber_Kroot: Dec 22 2006, 04:41 PM

[Nightgash]

Dude they dissect the thing. Its got heaps of details of what they are like, even its insides lol. I would be happy to help you

This post has been edited by Nightgash: Dec 21 2006, 11:07 PM

[Uber_Kroot]

Dude they dissect the thing. Its got heaps of details of what they are like, even its insides lol. I would be happy to help you

Well Basically - I've decided on the army, but I'd still like to write up the fluff. So any details on social structure, homeworld, historical imperial contact, favourite movies etc lol! Bugger - I might have to see if I can find the damn book myself now!

[Nightgash]

No worries I'll see what I can do

[Dave]

Dunno if this will help or if you have already been to this, but good old wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrud

Anyways, models look damn sweet. Keep em comming.

[Big Willy Style]

I was and still sorta am considering a Hrud army, and would have done it using either IG or Lost and the Damned lists, but, like you, would probably go with the IG, mainly because the future of the lost and the damned list is questionable.

I was thinking of using the clan pestilence plastic boxed set for them. They have hoods in the boxed set and the robes and stuff look mighty cool.

You might be able to pull off using both IG and LatD lists for the army. A sorta two for the price of one army.

[Seer Master Sinigal]

Models look awesome mate!

Nightgash - Is that really supposed to be a Hrud? Don't much like it presonally if they've skewed the fluff and made them more cockroach/Giger Alien... we don't need more bugs. It actually looks like a proto-Ambull to me!

This post has been edited by Seer Master Sinigal: Dec 22 2006, 03:10 AM

[AJ]

I personally would drop the RR and xenos mounts and taken abhumans-subs and droop troops.

From my personal ideals about the Hrud (infact it was going to be one of my next projects) as it says in the article is that they phase in and out of our time stream, hence the droop troops, and I was going for a purely infantry army, so no tanks or RR's.

My 2 cents.

AJ

[Bane]

personally i dont know if guard is the right choice

the plasma fusil sounds a little stronger than a lasgun, and how do you explain all the special weapons?

I think you should reconsider and maybe instead go with tau, plasma fusil being s5 ap 5 sounds about right, and with pathfinders you can have the dreaded hrud snipers, of course you will need to be creative with the hrud vehicles.

IF you do go with guard i think rough riders and special weapon teams are a bad idea

you should most definitely use ratlings as your snipers instead of special weapon teams, just because no one will fear special weapon teams. 3 sniper rifles, or 10?

[AJ]

Here's one guys army, based on the rat-men idea thou, he has used eldar rules for his force, heres the link

[Uber_Kroot]

Nah Tau is too heavy - and they certainly don't infest!

The time thing is interesting - and though I struggled with the removal Chameleoline from the doctrines I think is is more a factor of how they got there in the first place.

The Snipers are in teams and not ratling purely because of the vast differences in the stat line... Ratlings were always be a dumb idea.

The Fusil is interestign, let's look at why they might use Plasma - 1) plasma is a great unstable power, but what if you were able to make it stable? The Tau did so though technology, but what about simply reducing the output? Therefore you get plasma guns that aren't as powerful but never need recharging! Imagine you had the option of a 7.62 rifle or a 5.56 rifle that never runs out of bullets... I know what I'd pick.

Now the rough riders were so I could have something different! The Hrud infestations never mention leaders - but what if these leaders only show themselves in the hour of need?

I did a bit of a test model last night - together with a test sniper rifle (variation on the normal gun)

[Fargo]

what an awesome diary! I love it how you are doing armies that there are no minis for! you are very creative, good luck!

[Assaultguardsman]

I would use the Tau rules for Hrud, personally. Plasma fusil = pulse rifle, etc. etc.

[Castigo]

mate ur a genuius! great way to use night gobbos! good to see someone making armies based on obscured texts and images from the rulebook. Keep up the good work, lovin it!

cheers

[BoBo]

Sweet... these and the K'nib are just great, I think a lot of people are starting to consider doing similar projects now. I know I would, but I've enough on my plate at the moment..

Army list wise, Its a bit tricky... Sure Tau list makes the Plasma Fusil work right, but I don't see Hrud Having 4+ armour on all their troops, that and Tau aren't exactly a number army.

I say Latd list personally, Failling that, Guard. With Latd You could still have the rough riders, Traitor guard Infiltrate and can have snipers and it could give greater possibillities modelling wise..

[Uber_Kroot]

Yeah I went through the L&TD list several times to try and make it word, but I just couldn't get it to feel right... This list is the best I've come up with that fills all the criteria. However the discussion on the Cold one Riders has inspired one of my mates to use the L&TD list do a fully mounted 'Scythian Venom Monk' Army using mutants with Mark of Tzeench as cav!! SO soon we will be able to have K'Nib v/s Demiurge & Hrud v/s Scythian battles!! Yes I'm truly insane & loving it!

Now I have to admit that I had never considered the Tau list as the basis of my 'counts as' so I did a couple of tests which were all terrible. While the weapons fit, the rest of the army really doesn't. It doesn't have the numbers, infiltrators and whilst the suits could make buggies... It would be very 'samey'. Firewarriors, Suits & Broadsides as heavy buggies. The idea is not just to make a different army using existing rules, but to also try to make that army different to play from the normal 'parent codex army' - for instance my K'Nib army primarily consists of Genestealers and Warriors... An elite army which is hard to fight with and lacks the numbers of a 'Normal Tyranid Army' - every loss counts for me. The Hrud are different from the normal Guard army in that it lacks tanks (a major issue!) - Instead of the normal gunline it will be a 180 degree firing army (infiltrating on all sides) with the sentinels & rough riders supporting where needed. It's not just the models that have to be different! (If that makes any sense?)

The Wilkipedia info was great - all of which I can support in the fluff I'll make. The idea of 'bendies' - that they can squeeze into small areas is great! Even the skin wont prove a problem as I was planning on the few bits of flesh showing being purple (Litch & Warlock) with a blue ink which will look interesting.

Had a bit of a crack along on the troops today, but I'll take pics later. Also made an order for a whole bunch of wheels. Hopefully the lamp for the K'Nib will arrive today though and I'll finish off that army diary.

[Uber_Kroot]

OK I did say I'd post a photo...

The two squads of six at the bottom of the photo are the sniper squads. The four squads of 8 are the infantry squads (bar the autocannon of course!). The three tracks guns to the side are a sneak peek of the WIP lascannons!!


This post has been edited by Uber_Kroot: Dec 22 2006, 08:42 PM