[WFB] Bone Warriors, Warriors of Chaos Army Story and Modelling Diary Options Rating

[OttomanScribe]

I am starting my first army in 2 years, being my second army of all time and I thought it would be good to keep a record of it. Mainly for free advice in the form of constructive, and non-constructive criticism

The background of my force is an Empire army that headed North into the Chaos wastes in order to bring the fight to the villages of the Raiders themselves. They were led by a charismatic but increasingly deranged priest of Sigmar. As they ventured further and further North, the wheat was separated from the chaff and they became increasingly hardened against the elements and their enemies. The army was whittled down through constant battles both with the trolls and the marauder tribes themselves until all that remained was a hardened group of Greatswords and Knights, fighting often with the Weapons of those they killed.

The closer they got to the mutating power of the Northern Wastes, the more the hardness within them began to be reflected in their appearance. They slowly lost the need for food, for rest.. their armour hardened around them, becoming the colour of their very bones. Finally they came upon an unprotected village. The Priest, now totally mad, spurred them into a fury of slaughter and depravity as they rampaged through the town, massacring women, children and the elderly alike. All this was done to the shrieks of 'Kill, Kill, Kill them all for Sigmar!'. As the commander of the greatswords looked down upon his blood drenched sword and his bone white armour... as if from nowhere he was struck with a wave of guilt. He turned and struck down the Warrior Priest, decrying Sigmar as a False God. He smashed the Idols of the Northerners and the books of Sigmar both. The remains of the force suddenly sharing in his guilt.

They blamed the Gods collectively for their curse, and the madness that possessed them to commit such acts. In their rejection they came to worship the force they call 'The Undivided'. They reject all anthropomorphic Gods, believing them to be aberrations brought forth by the twisted mind of humanity. They now fight to rid themselves of the taint of such belief both within themselves, and amongst others. Shunning the dishonourable means of warfare that led them down such a dark path, they cling to the shreds of their Humanity, hoping that through purity of faith in the Undivided, they will find redemption and the lifting of their curse.


Thus my army list will eventually be all armoured and helmeted warriors, knights and the like. No monsters, magic, marks of chaos, or models without Chaos armour (with the exception of their dogs, now similarly mutated) will be allowed. This may prove to be a useless list, in which case I may have to reconsider some things for the sake of balance.

I have so far assembled 24 warriors, 10 hounds, 5 knights, Vardek Crom as an Exalted Hero, the new Hero on Demonic Steed model as another hero and some marauders that I will use til I can field the proper list. I also plan to convert Wulfrik the wanderer with a helm and a Standard to be my BSB, and a Chaos Chariot representing a wagon used as a chariot when food was no longer needed and the effectiveness of Chaos Chariots was demonstrated to the Greatswords.

The colour scheme I currently have in mind is bone and red. Getting to the modelling part of this I will post the first model I've painted, and ask for any and all advice, on any aspect of this, be it ideas for an effective list, info on background, painting tips or anything else





This post has been edited by Saleh'Uddin: Dec 22 2008, 12:50 AM

[Angorn's_Son]

ok
the cloak is i really nice color
but you havent done anything to the fur
and the armour looks really sloppy on kinda chunky and you can see the base through it

[Runefang]

I think the colour scheme u have opted for is really good mate.

I know pictures often dont do the mini justice in the painting department, so I'll wait till theres more of the rest of the unit to see what your armour paiting is like.

A few peices of advice.

* You seem to be going for a brown leather look on the boots and gloves. The EASIEST way to achieve this is to paint the entire glove and boot with bestial brown (even in the recesses), and then use a wash of badab black on the entire area. After the wash, go back with a mall amount of bestial and pick out some highlights on the folds of the boot, or the fingers of the gloves etc.

*The fur on the back does look a little one coloured, so if you want a dark coloured pelt still, paint the entire pelt with scorched brown, then do a drybrush of bestial over the top. Depending how dark you want it, you can wash it with badab black here, OR apply one very light drybrush of kommando khaki or bleached bone (a VERY light drybrush), and then wash all three stages with the badab.

Hope it helps a little, will be sure to keep an eye on this thread. I like the fluff you have written for the army also, gives the project alot of depth.

Dan

[Mouseketeer]

Looking good.. a couple of washes will make this puppy really shine though..
a really solid investment is the GW washes set.. absolute gold!!

a devlin mud, gryphonne sepia or something on the bone.. and the boots..
red, or devlin mud wash on the cape / shield..

In fact, Devlan mud, pretty much fixes everything all told!

Good Luck!

Mouse

[That Guy]

Looking good mate! Are you gonna do anything with the base? There's plenty of different things you could do with it since they're up new the Chaos wastes. You could try browny gravel or sand or basically anything coz its all mutated!

The army'll look great when its done!

Cheers,

Alex

[OttomanScribe]

Looking good mate! Are you gonna do anything with the base? There's plenty of different things you could do with it since they're up new the Chaos wastes. You could try browny gravel or sand or basically anything coz its all mutated!

I'm going for a dark gravel with sparse wiry grass look I might mangle my marauders once I get more warriors and put their heads and stuff on the exalted champions bases.

a devlin mud, gryphonne sepia or something on the bone.. and the boots..
red, or devlin mud wash on the cape / shield..

I am using all of them Used purple on the cloak.

You seem to be going for a brown leather look on the boots and gloves. The EASIEST way to achieve this is to paint the entire glove and boot with bestial brown (even in the recesses), and then use a wash of badab black on the entire area. After the wash, go back with a mall amount of bestial and pick out some highlights on the folds of the boot, or the fingers of the gloves etc.

I'm going to try to do that, thanks The boots were my least favourite part of the model.

*The fur on the back does look a little one coloured, so if you want a dark coloured pelt still, paint the entire pelt with scorched brown, then do a drybrush of bestial over the top. Depending how dark you want it, you can wash it with badab black here, OR apply one very light drybrush of kommando khaki or bleached bone (a VERY light drybrush), and then wash all three stages with the badab.

Its weird, the photo does the pelt no justice, it has quite a range of colour irl I might try this though anyway.

Hope it helps a little, will be sure to keep an eye on this thread. I like the fluff you have written for the army also, gives the project alot of depth

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Fluff is my favourite part of WFB.. I didn't feel comfortable with the whole 'pagan'/'evil' thing with the Chaos warriors.. so I wanted to have a hard army, that was still honourable... yet had some nuance to it as well. If I can get past my writers block I want to write a short story for it. I think that is what really keeps me painting, the atmosphere that surrounds the little men lol.

[OttomanScribe]

This was the 1500 Point Army List I made, its just a starting off list and doesn't really fit with the theme at all

Chaos Army (1500 Pts)

Characters:

General Exalted Hero
Equipment: Chaos Armour, Aethersword, Shield, Bloodcurdling Roar
Special Rules: Ignores armour saves, 3+ Armour Save, 12” range 2D6 S1 hits, no armour save, eye of the Gods
Pts: 185
Exalted Hero
Equipment: Daemonic mount, Chaos Rune shield, hand weapon
Special Rules: 1+ Armour Save, Fear, Eye of the Gods, all magical items of unit in base contact fails
Pts: 210

Core Units

12 Chaos Warriors
Equipment: Chaos Amour, Shields, 2 Hand weapons, full command, Banner of Rage, Mark of Nurgle
Special Rules: 3+ Armour Save, Frenzy (cannot be removed) , -1 to hit in Shooting and Combat
Pts: 299

12 Chaos Warriors
Equipment: Chaos Armour, Hand Weapon, Shield, Full command, Mark of Nurgle
Special Rules: 3+ Armour Save, -1 to hit in Shooting and Combat
Pts: 252

20 Marauders
Equipment: Hand Weapon, Shield, Light Armour, Full command
Special Rules: 5+ Armour Save
Pts: 142

5 Chaos Warhounds
Pts: 30

5 Chaos Warhounds
Pts: 30

Special Units

5 Chaos Knights
Equipment: Lances, Chaos Armour, Shield, Barding, Full Command, Blasted Standard, Mark of Nurgle
Special Rules: 1+ Armour Save, +2 S on the Charge, +5 Ward save against shooting, -1 to hit in Shooting and Combat
Pts: 345

Total Points: 1493

[OttomanScribe]

Just an update, played a game against High Elves and got thoroughly thrashed because of lack of magic (despite the brother I played against choosing to use no Magic missiles). I'm thinking that a magic user is gonna be needed! So I am using the fluff about the woman that the general refused to kill. She was a warrior mage and she follows them around, hoping to torture them all individually for their crimes, but this mean she defends them in order to kill them herself. This will mean she will be a scroll monkey and not deployed with the main army

Bought the Sigmarite sisters to convert for this. Also got a chariot, Sigvald (for standard bearer), Mordheim chaos hounds to fill out my units to 6 instead of five and I've got another unit of warriors and knights on the way.

Painting is miserable and slow lol.

[Rojo]

I think you have a great idea for your army. You've put a lot of thought into the background and I reckon you'll be able to pull it off in the modelling department as well. Now get some more models done you slacker! Remember to thin those paints, lots of thin layers gets a great effect, if you've got the time. Otherwise give the bone a wash with gryphonne sepia or ogryn flesh and see how that goes.

[Sithspawn]

mate they are looking pretty awesome! I really like the bone armour idea.

If you cant get to 2250 anytime soon, PM me for next club meet and I'll write and bring a 1500 pt army to give you a game with. (or any other points level you want!).

[lonehunter]

Try thinning your paint a little more, it might help with getting a smoother look especially to the armour.

[tartanarmy]

black boots and gloves. got to be!

This post has been edited by tartanarmy: Jan 8 2009, 01:40 PM

[OttomanScribe]

Woah, didn't realise people replied thanks for the comments and advice I'm working on making the chariot and I've bought more knights and warriors insha'Allah can get gaming when summer school releases me from its grip

[Manx]

Hey mate,
Like what your aiming for, though I agree with tartan that the gloves really should be black.
Also, I think doing something with the bases would be nice, how about washing the sand with a brownish ink, then drybrushing bleached bone and adding some static grass for more contrast?
Cheers,
Manx

This post has been edited by Manx: Jan 19 2009, 05:26 PM

[OttomanScribe]

Did the static grass and wash thing already it looks good so your advice is worthy of thanks even though it was late

yeah I will re-paint the gloves, public opinion don't lie!

[Magos_Kasen]

hi Saleh'uddin, just found this thread and have read with interest.

On painting- So far the model looks good, certainly a passable standard. The armour is particularly good, it has a very battered and worn appearance without being over the top. I think the red on the shield and cloak could go another shade lighter on the edges to make it stand out more. I agree that the fur on the cloak could use some more highlights to bring out the texture a bit. I like the boots but if you are looking to change them then my own recipe for all leather is a charadon granite basecoat, followed by a calthan brown highlight and then tausept ochre on the sharpest edges.
All in all the model looks good and I am looking forward to seeing more.

The fluff for the army is good, although if it were me I would have kept the priest alive (thats just because I like those sorts of psychopathic insane characters), you could have made him a champion with mark of khorne or something similar.
I agree with you about fluff being the best part of the game, I always like seeing armies built around a theme rather than just making a powerful list.

Hmm, seeing this thread has made me consider starting one of my own, but that would involve learning to use a camera other stuff. I suspect I am the only teenager in Australia who doesn't know how to use a camera or mobile phone (I can make a call if needed but cant do anything else with one).

Looking forward to more.

[OttomanScribe]

I am, after a long hiatus, back to the forums and back to WFB. I bought the rulebook, trolls, marauders, marauder cav. a whole new battleforce and some dice yesterday, and I'm really trying to get back on this chaos steed.

I've made the trolls (river trolls that I will paint in a bone and red colour scheme) and the Marauder Cav.

With the new edition I am thinking of larger blocks of infantry, with the trolls to anchor my line and the cav. to form a hard hitting flanking unit. I am going to have to expand the fluff a little bit to explain why there are swarms of marauders in my army but I'm sure I can manage.

Hope you all are well, look forward to trawling the forums again.

[OttomanScribe]

So as of last night I've made the colour scheme bone, red and purple, expanding the purple sheen I applied to the warriors to be a staple of the whole army. I've made myself familiar with pinning, including spearing a finger, and I've done some conversion work over the last week.

I converted a chariot to have the same horses as the knights, I also added some Mordheim sisters of sigmar with any iconography removed. Gave one of em a whip and the other has a big hammer. These represent women on the baggage train changing their wagon to a hard chariot.

I gave Wulfric the Lord's head and took off an arm, replacing his shield arm with one that can hold a standard.

I've made up all the Marauders, the cavalry and the Trolls. Still have the warriors and more knights to make.

I'm finding it quite hard to make a list, purely because I look to make everything as killy as possible, with difficulty fitting anything in the points allowance. 

In terms of the fluff, I'm going to keep the 'brutalized empire army' story, however I thought I would have different units as being similar to Sufi Tariqas, a group of students and a teacher,  being focussed upon a single aspect of 'the Undivided'.

I don't know if it's conscionable to include the trolls at all.
I will play some games and see if I need em.

Finally I will paint the marauders up as tribes converted to the cult of the undivided. With their skin painted in very sallow and sickly tones, akin to the bone of the warriors. Maybe later on I will consider using flagellants as the basis of some conversions.

Getting halberds for some warriors, more marauders and Archaon. Thinking of using Archaon as the basis for a conversion, either as a fighting model or some form of unit filler in the horde of Marauders.

So all the models I have ATM are

20 Marauders with shield and hand weapon
40 Marauders with flails
10 marauder cavalry with flails and throwing axes.
13 chaos knights
12 warriors of chaos with 2 hand weapons
24 warriors of chaos with hand weapons and shields
12 warriors of chaos with halberds
1 chariot
6 trolls
20 hounds
1 bsb model
1 lord/exalted champion model on foot
1 lord/exalted champion model on chaos steed
1 Mage (if needs be)

Anyone who feels like turning that into a decent list can feel free :-P

[AvatarForm]

Im keen to see pics of this colour scheme across the army. I think its simplicity will work well to unify the army.

As for your list, just remember everything has a purpose, and may not need to be 'killy' as it may serve as an anvil for one of your 'killy' hammer units to crush opposing units against.

In terms of fluff, you may wish to include your trolls in more of a 'counts as' representative facility... perhaps find some larger models (ogres or reaper barbarians) to represent strong men/labourers who fight alongside the army. Perhaps call them half-giants... or perhaps those showing the first signs of mutation amongst your ranks???

If all else fails, remember that trolls are attracted to carnage in the same way ogres do... they may even follow your army at a safe distance and eat the leavings/wounded or be waiting for the army to be wounded enough to take a few victims. Hence, they show up at the fringes of your battles...

[OttomanScribe]

Thanks for the advice, it actually helped quite a lot... well you decide, what do you think of the list below?

I like the colour scheme, not least because I can mix up the emphasis a bit to represent marks of khorne or tzeentch. Then again I've not had that much painting experience so it might end up looking crap lol.

Was thinking of chaining up the trolls as slaves and converting a character to accompany them as a slave master

40 chaos marauders- 260
MoK, flails, full command
12 Warriors of Cbaos -252
MoK, full command, halberds
10 Marauder Horsemen - 200
Flails, throwing axes, full command
10 chaos warhounds - 60
Chaos chariot - 120
Chaos knights - 340
MoN, lances. Full command, banner of rage


Exalted hero- 215
BSB, doom totem, MoK, shield & hand weapon.
Chaos Lord -391
Daemonic Mount, diabolical splendour, giant blade, Ironcurse icon, Mark of Nurgle, shield, dragonbane gem
Chaos sorcerer - 175
Infernal puppet, lore of death, level 2.

Total points-2000 pts